Google Nexus 6P USB-C car chargers?

[maverick7526]

Re: USB-C car chargers?

The tronsmart car charger landed a few days ago in my mailbox. Does it not actually rapid charge? Does it charge quicker than a typical car charger?

That does not rapid charge. It states it does on the phone, but it can only draw 2.4 amp max from that charger.

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[beaner b]

I don't know why, but like mine it redirects to a 404 page.

the link will get you there. there's a pull down on the upper left. chargers are in "mobile".
mine arrives today. supposedly.

 

[beaner b]

Do update us on how it goes. The Monoprice charger looks exactly like a black version of the red fake 3A Type-C car chargers that many reported do not actually rapidly charge the 6P, such as this Vinsic-branded one:
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Vinsi...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU4856231

ol' Benson has given Visnic the thumbs up. says: "Voltage sags when charging 2 devices but great for 1 device."
I have it. says "charging rapidly" but I haven't timed it yet.

 

[maverick7526]

ol' Benson has given Visnic the thumbs up. says: "Voltage sags when charging 2 devices but great for 1 device."
I have it. says "charging rapidly" but I haven't timed it yet.

Check out the ampere app, it will tell you what the phone is pulling from the charger.

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[syspry]

Re: USB-C car chargers?

The tronsmart car charger landed a few days ago in my mailbox. Does it not actually rapid charge? Does it charge quicker than a typical car charger?

In my totally anecdotal experience it's charging faster than my old phone with old charger, however the previous phone was Fall of 2013 and the previous charger was 2011 so take it for what it's worth. I can only say that if it indeed isn't "rapid" charging, it is charging quickly enough to satisfy me.

When a dedicated (rather than conversion) rapid charging USB-C car charger is eventually made I'll order one, but I can't wait until then so I'll stick with this for now

 

[syspry]

Perhaps this link will work for you: Monoprice USB-C car charger.

Still giving an error, testing this link:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=14160&usg=AFQjCNGBT_g3tWLwSPGLRUEIK68jFsIU_w

Also, looks like you'll still need an approved USB C - USB C cable because it doesn't come with one nor does it come with any USB A cable but well all already have a bunch of those laying around EDIT: I got the link to work by copying from a google search link rather than the product page itself

 

[Don_Henry]

Has anyone confirmed: with a 3A car charger (like the Vinsic) - do you get 3A using USB A to C cables, or only if you use USB C to C?

 

[maverick7526]

Has anyone confirmed: with a 3A car charger (like the Vinsic) - do you get 3A using USB A to C cables, or only if you use USB C to C?

Check out this site it has plenty of cables https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#

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[Don_Henry]

Check out this site it has plenty of cables https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#

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Thanks - I have already seen the spreadsheet - my question is whether you need to go USB C to C in order to get 3A, or if USB A to C will deliver 3A if the charger is capable?

 

[CmbtSwmr7]

Thanks - I have already seen the spreadsheet - my question is whether you need to go USB C to C in order to get 3A, or if USB A to C will deliver 3A if the charger is capable?

Nope, you need to go C to C to get 3A. A to C will still be faster than standard, but it will not deliver all 3A of power to the phone. Make no mistake, your 6p will still respond with the "charging rapidly" (or whatever it says) but it will probably be in the 2.4A range.

 

[beaner b]

ok so ampere readings...
Vinsic: 2900mA
Monoprice: 2850mA
Google wall: 3060mA

that was with battery <15%
all with c to c
a to c was slightly less @ 2700-2750mA on both car chargers. google's cables.

 

[mogelijk]

ok so ampere readings...
Vinsic: 2900mA
Monoprice: 2850mA
Google wall: 3060mA

that was with battery <15%
all with c to c
a to c was slightly less @ 2700-2750mA on both car chargers. google's cables.

The one other test I'd be interesting to see, if you can do it, is testing both the Monoprice and Vinsic chargers rate charging the 6P but with another phone or other device charging on the USB-A port at the same time.

 

[vzwuser76]

The one other test I'd be interesting to see, if you can do it, is testing both the Monoprice and Vinsic chargers rate charging the 6P but with another phone or other device charging on the USB-A port at the same time.

Here is a quote from Benson Leung's review of the Vinsic charger.

"The voltage sags in a major way as the Chromebook keeps pulling 3A from the charger. According to my inline USB current meter, the N6 is getting just ~560mA, so both sides are suffering."

He had the N6 hooked up to the USB-A port.

 

[mogelijk]

Here is a quote from Benson Leung's review of the Vinsic charger.

"The voltage sags in a major way as the Chromebook keeps pulling 3A from the charger. According to my inline USB current meter, the N6 is getting just ~560mA, so both sides are suffering."

He had the N6 hooked up to the USB-A port.

Yes, which is why I'd be interested to see if the Monoprice charger acts the same way, and even if Vinsic has updated their charger.

 

[beaner b]

The one other test I'd be interesting to see, if you can do it, is testing both the Monoprice and Vinsic chargers rate charging the 6P but with another phone or other device charging on the USB-A port at the same time.

yea sure, I'll try and get to it later today.

 

[beaner b]

Nexus 6 and Nexus 6P. both starting at <15%

Vinsic
C to C: 2790mA
with N6 plugged in:
6P: 1480, 1320, 1310
N6: 1150, 1140, 1160

Monoprice
C to C: 2780mA
with N6 plugged in:
6P: 1870, 1850, 1800
N6: 1130, 1190, 1190

these are the readings after only a few minutes, when the numbers start to waver. i have no idea if they would move again one way or another. I wanted to keep the battery under 25% just for consistency (not sure at what percentage the phones begin to draw less amperage. 50?, maybe 80?), and it doesn't take long to move the charged percentage up.
both of these chargers seem poorly made. they both got pretty hot too. wonder how long we'll have to wait for quality.

 

[vzwuser76]

I would think they'd be pretty close. Looking at the casing, they are made by the same manufacturer, but with different branding. There may be a few differences in components but I doubt anything that would cause a night and day difference in performance.

 

[vzwuser76]

Nexus 6 and Nexus 6P. both starting at <15%

Vinsic
C to C: 2790mA
with N6 plugged in:
6P: 1480, 1320, 1310
N6: 1150, 1140, 1160

Monoprice
C to C: 2780mA
with N6 plugged in:
6P: 1870, 1850, 1800
N6: 1130, 1190, 1190

these are the readings after only a few minutes, when the numbers start to waver. i have no idea if they would move again one way or another. I wanted to keep the battery under 25% just for consistency (not sure at what percentage the phones begin to draw less amperage. 50?, maybe 80?), and it doesn't take long to move the charged percentage up.
both of these chargers seem poorly made. they both got pretty hot too. wonder how long we'll have to wait for quality.

Do they get hot if you're only plugged into the USB-C port? I'd imagine when you've got a charger with two devices that each employ a form of rapid charging that it'll put a strain on it.

 

[beaner b]

I would think they'd be pretty close. Looking at the casing, they are made by the same manufacturer, but with different branding. There may be a few differences in components but I doubt anything that would cause a night and day difference in performance.

the Monoprice seemed to keep closer to the 3amp max than the Vinsic with both devices plugged in, but to be honest, there've been some outliers over the last couple of days by both (e.g. only reaching @800 mA) on a few occasions, so I wouldn't be surprised if I ran another test, the results would be reversed.

Do they get hot if you're only plugged into the USB-C port? I'd imagine when you've got a charger with two devices that each employ a form of rapid charging that it'll put a strain on it.

only noticed it after the dual charging. I would think it'd be the same if you're drawing the max amperage, whether using 2 ports or one, but I don't really know much about that stuff. maybe it's a heat dissipation thing, with the 2 ports being so close together. maybe with better chargers -ones that are engineered/made better it won't happen as much.

 

[vzwuser76]

the Monoprice seemed to keep closer to the 3amp max than the Vinsic with both devices plugged in, but to be honest, there've been some outliers over the last couple of days by both (e.g. only reaching @800 mA) on a few occasions, so I wouldn't be surprised if I ran another test, the results would be reversed.



only noticed it after the dual charging. I would think it'd be the same if you're drawing the max amperage, whether using 2 ports or one, but I don't really know much about that stuff. maybe it's a heat dissipation thing, with the 2 ports being so close together. maybe with better chargers -ones that are engineered/made better it won't happen as much.

Like I said, with the cases looking that similar, I'd imagine that they're made by the same manufacturer, but they slap on different branding for different companies. That's actually a pretty common thing anymore. Now one could specify different internals, but depending on the tolerances of the electronic components, you could see that much of a difference even using the same internals.

I don't know if one unused port would necessarily dissipate hear better or not (maybe if the two USB housings are tied together the unused one could act as a heatsink, possible but unlikely). I was looking at it from more of a sense of having one load drawing from the power supply vs two different loads sucking power. Too much of a load on a power supply for too long will cause an early failure. And when you consider that the USB-C devices are asking for the full current capability of the power supply (3A), and the second device is a Quick Charge capable device looking for 2.1-2.4A as well, I believe that means that both devices are trying to draw more than the charger is capable of providing, where if it was one or the other, it would simply be running at it's rated output. In other words device A alone wanting 100% of the juice available or device B alone wanting 70% of the juice available is OK, but both devices wanting 170% of the juice available is not OK and the result is overheating.