Google Pixel 6/Pro - just over the horizon?

[RaRa85]

Some shots of this huge sailboat passing by. Three tugboats had to steer it from the bow.

 

[Morty2264]

Some shots of this huge sailboat passing by. Three tugboats had to steer it from the bow.

What clear shots!

 

[RaRa85]

What clear shots!

Thanks Morty. The Pixel 3a still gets it done. I'm taking the kids to the State Fair tomorrow so I'm really planning to get a lot of pics there.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

Looks like Google is feeling confident.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/google-pixel-6-sales-estimates_id134721

Interesting. Maybe Google will take this Pixel seriously for once.

Though I do wonder what about the new Tensor chip has been worked on for 4 years exactly?

I can't see the CPU processors being custom designed. I'm sure they're just standard ARM designed cores. Same with the GPU. Only thing I could guess would be the NPU, but even then, I'm unsure. If the chip is similar to an Exynos, could they have just picked an Exynos variant and called it 'Tensor'?

Custom chip sounds great, but would be better if they designed the cores as well, just like Apple.

 

[Kizzy Catwoman]

Interesting. Maybe Google will take this Pixel seriously for once.

Though I do wonder what about the new Tensor chip has been worked on for 4 years exactly?

I can't see the CPU processors being custom designed. I'm sure they're just standard ARM designed cores. Same with the GPU. Only thing I could guess would be the NPU, but even then, I'm unsure. If the chip is similar to an Exynos, could they have just picked an Exynos variant and called it 'Tensor'?

Custom chip sounds great, but would be better if they designed the cores as well, just like Apple.

I thought Apple used ARM based cores as well

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

I thought Apple used ARM based cores as well

No, Apple design their own cores based on the ARM instruction set. ARM do design reference cores which Qualcomm use in Snapdragons and now Samsung are using in Exynos, but Apple don't use these designs and opt for their own core designs. Apple manage to design cores that are faster and more battery efficient. ARM attempted to design a core that was very fast with minimal regard to power efficiency, which they did with the X1 core, but the X1 runs quite hot, so IMO it's not great design.

Samsung tried the Apple way by designing their own cores based on the ARM instruction set, but their Exynos processors were quite bad - ran slower and hotter than ARM design. Samsung gave up and just used ARM designed cores in the current Exynos 2100.

So now we have Google who have been working on this mobile Tensor chip supposedly for 4 years. After 4 years of R&D, I would have expected custom CPU cores, but I mean it's Google, so they probably did the bare minimum to be able to call it a 'custom designed SoC'. Likely just a slightly modified Exynos 2100 then they whacked the 'Tensor' branding in it. I'd love to be wrong and find out that Google actually did something with Tensor, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

[Kizzy Catwoman]

No, Apple design their own cores based on the ARM instruction set. ARM do design reference cores which Qualcomm use in Snapdragons and now Samsung are using in Exynos, but Apple don't use these designs and opt for their own core designs. Apple manage to design cores that are faster and more battery efficient. ARM attempted to design a core that was very fast with minimal regard to power efficiency, which they did with the X1 core, but the X1 runs quite hot, so IMO it's not great design.

Samsung tried the Apple way by designing their own cores based on the ARM instruction set, but their Exynos processors were quite bad - ran slower and hotter than ARM design. Samsung gave up and just used ARM designed cores in the current Exynos 2100.

So now we have Google who have been working on this mobile Tensor chip supposedly for 4 years. After 4 years of R&D, I would have expected custom CPU cores, but I mean it's Google, so they probably did the bare minimum to be able to call it a 'custom designed SoC'. Likely just a slightly modified Exynos 2100 then they whacked the 'Tensor' branding in it. I'd love to be wrong and find out that Google actually did something with Tensor, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

It is based on an exynos core. Not the 2100 but an unreleased exynos that Samsung was working on. At least that is the theory.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-G...or-SoC-is-a-Samsung-Exynos-9855.553822.0.html

 

[Morty2264]

Hmmm cream soda yes yes

I just had a Harvey's Orange Cream smoothie thingy last night, and it now reminds me of the Pixel 6.

 

[bkdodger2]

I just had a Harvey's Orange Cream smoothie thingy last night, and it now reminds me of the Pixel 6.

Haha yummy

 

[RaRa85]

Pixel 3a reminds me that the 6 Pro will do great things.

 

[jamezr]

If my Pixel 4XL can take pics like this... I can't wait for the 6 and 6 Pro

 

[RaRa85]

If my Pixel 4XL can take pics like this... I can't wait for the 6 and 6 Pro

Yessir!

 

[anon(40376)]

If my Pixel 4XL can take pics like this... I can't wait for the 6 and 6 Pro

Great dog photo!

 

[anon(40376)]

My 4XL takes good photos too....and convenient

One reason why I will probably keep it and pass on the 6; that and the so-called new chip until it has been out and the bugs are fixed.

However, as great as cameras have come in camera phones from my experience, they cannot come close to a DSLR with a good lens.

Therefore, I do not purchase a phone for a camera, I purchase it to work as a phone first.

 

[J Dubbs]

It's amazing how far cameras on phones have come.... especially pixels. Beautiful pictures guys. Thanks

 

[YankInDaSouth]

If my Pixel 4XL can take pics like this... I can't wait for the 6 and 6 Pro

Super cute doggie!!

Love the Pixel camera experience and results! Anytime I stray to another phone manufacturer I learn to appreciate just how reliable the Pixel camera is! For quick point and shoot shots it has been the best for me. I've been swayed by the shiny temptation of a few phones over the past 2+ years but they've been returned or sold ... and here I am typing this on my soon to be 3 year old Pixel 3 (the longest I've stuck with any one device).

I'm very much looking forward to the Pixel 6 line!

 

[Torisen1]

Here is my Pixel 5 2x on one of my green chilies this morning.

 

[Morty2264]

Here is my Pixel 5 2x on one of my green chilies this morning.

Beautiful photo!

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

It is based on an exynos core. Not the 2100 but an unreleased exynos that Samsung was working on. At least that is the theory.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-G...or-SoC-is-a-Samsung-Exynos-9855.553822.0.html

The article you posted says:

"Accordingly, we should expect the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro to feature an ARM Cortex-X1 performance core, three Cortex-A78 cores and four Cortex-A55 power-saving cores."

The Cortex X1, A78 and A55 are all ARM designed cores - they're not Samsung (Exynos) designed cores.

I think you're confusing the name Samsung uses for the SoC (Exynos) with who designs the cores (ARM).

Samsung also used to design their own cores and put them in Exynos processors, just like how Apple design their own Firestorm and Icestorm cores and put them in the A14, but the Samsung designed CPU cores were bad and so Samsung scrapped that and implemented ARM designed cores for their Exynos 2100.

The rumour is that the Pixel 6 will use a modified Exynos 2100 - if that's the case, then the CPU and GPU cores are ARM design (CPU: Coretex X1, A88 and A55, GPU: Mali). The question mark is around the NPU and who designed that.

 

[Laura Knotek]

If my Pixel 4XL can take pics like this... I can't wait for the 6 and 6 Pro

What an adorable dog!