Here is why there is so much HTC hate.

[anon(92475)]

But I still can't wrap my head around why Samsung wouldn't try something like this with the US. It's the largest market. You'd think they'd do it with Apple at least if they'll do it to a small corporation like HTC, maybe they have and we just don't know it. Either way I don't think it's dirty enough to blacklist Samsung phones throughout their existence, every company is doing the same yet differently. You may as well boycott those as well. The only difference is they haven't gotten caught with their hand in the cookie jar yet and are having the luxury of not looking foolish like Samsung is right now.

Really? Apple wins how many legal cases here in the US? Samsung would've never gotten away with it......... Though... the average American consumer is an ***** so... who knows. (I work in Electronics and Broadcast so I can back that up with examples.)

I'm near certain that it's going on in one way, shape, or form in the US by many different companies. It's a cheap(er) way to market.

Someone posted about everyone having their "Tech Guru" for purchases/help/opinions and a company (Samsung in this case) trying to influence them. That's correct. What easier way to get free marketing?

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[warpdrive]

No because ultra pixels or whatever they want to call them do let in more light. It's a fact.

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Please explain more.

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[Gathomblipoob]

The articles I'm seeing state that larger pixels let in more light. Is this wrong? I'm no photography expert, but I'm trying to find the truth.

 

[BigDinCA]

The articles I'm seeing state that larger pixels let in more light. Is this wrong? I'm no photography expert, but I'm trying to find the truth.

Technically, no. The sensor doesn't let in any light. It absorbs or collects photons. Because the pixels are bigger they will collect more photons, but the easier way to describe it to the layman is to say it "lets in" more light. Obviously it's much more complicated than just the sensor, and a huge part of these cameras is software, which appears to need a little tweaking in low-light settings.

 

[JHBThree]

Technically, no. The sensor doesn't let in any light. It absorbs or collects photons. Because the pixels are bigger they will collect more photons, but the easier way to describe it to the layman is to say it "lets in" more light. Obviously it's much more complicated than just the sensor, and a huge part of these cameras is software, which appears to need a little tweaking in low-light settings.

That's exactly what HTC has said. I'm not sure what warp drive read, but HTC has only ever advertised the camera as capturing up to 300% more light, which is absolutely true. Nowhere have they said that the larger pixels 'let in more light'.

 

[sunlei]

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[318sugarhill]

The batter life for HTC models did not get worse with each new model. That's just flat out untrue. You don't need to make stuff up when you don't like a product, it's okay just to say "I like phones with removable batteries". As long as I'm able to get a days use out of the batter I'm fine. I do not need more than 1 days use with the battery because I charge it while I sleep.

I like the HTC One because it's a beautiful phone, I prefer sense to touchwiz, and I like that the sound quality is so much better. For what I use a phone for the One is perfect. I don't use a phone to get my internet, I don't need multiple days of battery life, and I want something that is beautiful and fun to use.

I have owned nothing but HTC android phones. I have been an HTC fan. I don't need multiple days of battery life....I need 1 full day, and I never get that. Each phone I have upgraded to has decreased from the previous model. From the Dinc to my wife's Dinc 2 to both of our Rezounds. EVERY one of these three phones we have had to carry an extra battery to make it through a day. I don't know what samsungs battery life is until I own one, but I know what to expect from HTC and its not good enough.

 

[badbrad17]

Please explain more.

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I believe there was an article on AC explaining it as well but let me Google that for you. The basic thing is that larger pixels absorb more light and take better low light photos. This is the case on the HTC One. It doesn't mean it takes the best photo though.

Here more info. http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...xels-camera-tech-in-htc-one-explained-1132205

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[badbrad17]

That's exactly what HTC has said. I'm not sure what warp drive read, but HTC has only ever advertised the camera as capturing up to 300% more light, which is absolutely true. Nowhere have they said that the larger pixels 'let in more light'.

Exactly. Finally we can agree on something JB . HTC didn't lie or deceive anyone in there ads.

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[badbrad17]

I have owned nothing but HTC android phones. I have been an HTC fan. I don't need multiple days of battery life....I need 1 full day, and I never get that. Each phone I have upgraded to has decreased from the previous model. From the Dinc to my wife's Dinc 2 to both of our Rezounds. EVERY one of these three phones we have had to carry an extra battery to make it through a day. I don't know what samsungs battery life is until I own one, but I know what to expect from HTC and its not good enough.

The last round of phones starting with the One x+ and DNA have been much better on battery than older phones. They aren't earth shattering but certainly will get most people through the day. My Nexus 4 is no marathon runner on battery but does well enough for me. And if you know how to manage your settings and toggle off gps and data when you need to you can get a lot more out of your phone. The chips use a lot less power now when the screen is off so this makes a big difference on all new devices. Not just on HTC.

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[warpdrive]

That's exactly what HTC has said. I'm not sure what warp drive read, but HTC has only ever advertised the camera as capturing up to 300% more light, which is absolutely true. Nowhere have they said that the larger pixels 'let in more light'.

I'm a photographer, larger pixels never let in more light. It is the aperture that let's in more light.

Example: at iso 100, the HTC One's censor absorbs the same amount of light as a smaller pixel censor does at iso 100.
Sorry, but HTC repeatedly states that their ultra pixel technology let's in as much as 300% more light.

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[FaisDogg]

Have you seen the s4 display?

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No, because you can't see those displays outdoors, I would if I could

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[BigDinCA]

I'm a photographer, larger pixels never let in more light. It is the aperture that let's in more light.

Example: at iso 100, the HTC One's censor absorbs the same amount of light as a smaller pixel censor does at iso 100.
Sorry, but HTC repeatedly states that their ultra pixel technology let's in as much as 300% more light.

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You're pissing and moaning over semantics. You know what they mean. I could say that you're wrong on a certain level because the lens actually lets in light, while the aperture just regulates the amount of light that hits the sensor, but no more than the lens will allow to the aperture. For people who have a thorough knowledge of photography, which you obviously are, they are not being technically correct. You're right on that. But for the average smartphone user, or even the layman point-and-shoot user, do they really need to supply the device with a 10 page dissertation on photovoltaic technology, photon buckets, f-stops and the like?

 

[FaisDogg]

I'm a photographer, larger pixels never let in more light. It is the aperture that let's in more light.

Example: at iso 100, the HTC One's censor absorbs the same amount of light as a smaller pixel censor does at iso 100.
Sorry, but HTC repeatedly states that their ultra pixel technology let's in as much as 300% more light.

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Good info. Then what do you think improves One's low light performance, there has to be something that letting more light in, may be aperture?

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[warpdrive]

No, because you can't see those displays outdoors, I would if I could

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That's kind of funny because most reviews state that it is easyer to view the S4 screen outdoors then the HTC One.

Oh, and I have seen the S4 in person, outside no less. But it was by freak chance and in no way could I compare the two.

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[FaisDogg]

No idea why people going nuts over which phone is better, just shut up and buy whatever the heck you want, its your money. I swap my phone almost once or sometimes twice a year to whatever is best out. I've used S3, Note 2, iPhone. Note 2 is a great device, didn't keep it because it didn't fit my pocket ( I'm a resident and wear scrub at times and they don't have big pocket, I forced it in for the time I had, my peep once told me it looks like I'm walking around with a big screen TV in my pocket lol). I have used devices from pretty much all manufacturers, I keep my phones naked and currently own EVO LTE for a stupid reason (kickstand and display, reception seems better), and my employer gives out an i5 for email since my employer doesn't like android because of no remote wipe support.
The bottom line is, I don't care what others think is the best, I just listens to people like Phil, Aaron Baker, Michael Fisher before I buy my devices, the rest of you are all biased including myself. And buy it because in can afford to pay for it.

Have a great day now!

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[FaisDogg]

That's kind of funny because most reviews state that it is easyer to view the S4 screen outdoors then the HTC One.

Oh, and I have seen the S4 in person, outside no less. But it was by freak chance and in no way could I compare the two.

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Hmmm....I have been reading the opposite. Its not because I don't like Sammy, its for the fact that the AMOLED screens are that way; I have used multiple Samsung phones in recent history, that is my biggest issue with them, screens turn black as soon as you take it direct sunlight where as LCD panels don't react that way. My friend bought the S4 i'll check it out myself.
Thanks for the info

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[warpdrive]

Good info. Then what do you think improves One's low light performance, there has to be something that letting more light in, may be aperture?

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There are a few reasons why the HTC One's camera does so well in low light.

First it is the f2.0 lens. Compared to the S4's f2.2 or the S3's f2.6 lens, this is almost a full stop to 1 1/2 stops better.

Also, in full auto and not on night scene setting, the software seems to use a higher iso setting then another camera.
Example: on the One it might use iso 200 when the S4 or another phone might use iso 100. So by default, this will always help in low light better, regardless that it still does it in daylight.

The nighttime setting seems to make the iso more in line with other phones, so it uses a lower iso setting (maybe iso800 max) and thus a slower shutter speed.

So keep your iso set to auto and that will work better for low or ultra low light.


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[JHBThree]

I'm a photographer, larger pixels never let in more light. It is the aperture that let's in more light.

Example: at iso 100, the HTC One's censor absorbs the same amount of light as a smaller pixel censor does at iso 100.
Sorry, but HTC repeatedly states that their ultra pixel technology let's in as much as 300% more light.

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No they haven't. They've said repeatedly that it CAPTURES 300% more light, which is 100% accurate. You've been misreading what they've been saying.

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[warpdrive]

No they haven't. They've said repeatedly that it CAPTURES 300% more light, which is 100% accurate. You've been misreading what they've been saying.

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That would be 100% incorrect no matter how it is said. No photographer will agree with you. This was already talked to death and others agreed with me. Just stop already.

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