IPhone 5: Yay or Nay?

[badbrad17]

And for what it's worth Samsung has already sold 20 million S3s. They expect to sell 30 million by the end of the year and another 20 million or so Galaxy Note 2s.

http://m.cnet.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-sales-to-surpass-30-million-this-year/57511102


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[badbrad17]

I'm a long time iPhone owner since the 3G came out. I got to play with as friends N7 with Jelly Bean and decided the Android OS was finally at a place where I liked it, so I bought myself an N7 and am completely loving it. At any rate, I too was very disappointed in Apple's latest iPhone and I'm giving up on waiting year after year for Apple to pull their head out and let me use my devices the way I want to.

So.... I've decided to jump to an Android based phone end of October. I've been watching and trying to decide what to get, but thought I'd ask for some opinions. I like the N7 because it's Android without all the molestations of the carrier and device manufacturer, and I feel fairly confident that when Google releases the next OS upgrade, I won't have to wait forever to get it like other devices that needs the OS tweaked and molested. I'd like to get a phone that's similar in that regard. I understand that short of Google releasing a new phone, my next best bet is the Galaxy series. Is that an accurate assumption? Additionally, as I'm getting the new phone end of Oct, do any of you have suggestions on rumored new phones that I should look into. I understand nobody here has a crystal ball and can't tell me to wait for product X that might be coming out, but I'm OK with the rumor mill and being patient.

Thanks.

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There are so many great choices now. The Samsung GS3, the HTC One, the new Motorola RAZR hd lines are all amazing devices with the latest and greatest. I know many people using the SG3 and one X devices and they love them.

But I really think that a Nexus device is the best option if it is available within the next few months. I own 2 Asus transformer tablets which are pretty much pure android and there is something awesome about being at the top of the list with updates. I think you get better value over all.

But it does look like manufacturers are finally getting their crap together and working harder with carriers to bring updates faster. Once gingerbread fades away I think the updates will be better.

Good luck with your purchase.

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[badbrad17]

By November, you will most likely have a choice from The GSIII, GNote II, RAZR MAXX HD, possibly a new HTC device, and hopefully a new Nexus device. Can't really go wrong with any of them. My choice will come down to a GNote II or a Nexus device. I love my Gnex and Nexus 7 tablet, but love the stuff the GNote has going on as well.

I say nay to the new iPhone. Maybe next year they will bring a little something more to the game. Don't care about the lawsuits, don't care about sales numbers, I just wish they would all focus more on us, the consumer, and make the products we want and expect with the tech that is available. Enough with all the crap going on that slows down the rush of new mobile tech we are witnessing. If the next iPhone legitimately brings innovative technology, I would consider it, no doubt.

Not sure if you saw what former Apple founder Steve Wozniak had to say about all the law suits. I like this guy.

http://aktualnosti.net/steve-wozniak-apple-co-founder-disagrees-with-patent-verdict



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[badbrad17]

yeah i dont think you read any of the other stuff i posted. i dont base what i buy off what sells, i simply was giving a fact about what will happen with sales. who cares? i care, this economy has gone to sh** because lazy ppl decide they dont wanna go out and look for jobs and go on welfare and foodstamps wasting tax payers money in the process and in return theyre not putting in money to products or companies to stimulate the economy. ive never even bought an iPhone nor do i plan to, im simply getting the iphone 5 for free for my work. like someone else said if any phone has the power to boost the economy it will be the iPhone and im always for that. the fact will remain the iphone 5 will sell more than the s3, regardless of which one is better. like i said in my prior posts theres a reason i stuck with my evo lte for personal use. cause i do like android more and its more versatile where as the iphone is limited. the iphones app market does beat the androids market by a long shot however. ive come from the palm 650 700 treo series to palm pre, htc evo go all galaxy s series and eventually the htc evo lte. never once owned an iphone for someones clarification. so what am i basing my buying habits off of

I like your post but what app is it that is available on the Apple store that isn't on the Play Store? I mean I'm sure there are a few, but there are also some on the Play Store that you can't get on the app store.

People always say there is this huge difference but I don't see it in the mainstream list of apps.

A few more games here or there is hardly worth basing a decision on unless you are a teenager.

I have more than enough apps to choose from. I search the app store on my kids ipods and haven't found anything I am longing for that isn't available on the play store or something that is a good alternative.

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[cyanogen-man]

Let me put this in terms you can understand DEATH TO I SHEEP

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[gabead]

No, I am sticking with my S3. Unless you are on a 14 day return, I think it is a waste of money to keep jumping around. I love technology just as much as the next guy but be content on what you have and enjoy it. There is always next year or just wait till your contact ends. The s3 is a good phone and will last a while and I believe it will have support for along time among the developers.

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[iN8ter]

The nexus s is crippled how???? I have jb what other phone that came out when this one did has jb ota???? Exactly what other 2 yo phone has NFC??? My ns4g is truthfully the only reason I don't have a sgs3 RIGHT NOW besides Chicago don't have lte yet but soon.

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480p video from back camera and no SD Card. What do you call that. IIRC all the other GS variants had 720p recording and an SD Card Slot, no?

But you got curved glass, yay!

If you were on a better carrier (i.e. a GSM carrier) lack of LTE wouldn't be so much of an issue, since AT&T gets upwards of 10mbps download speeds on HSPA+ here and LTE will be in this city before hte end of the year. But yes, Sprint desperately needs to roll out their LTE. That's why Verizon was in such a hurry. CDMA kind of sucks and WiMax simply doesn't have the footprint to hold most Sprint customers over for decent speeds until LTE is rolled out (they do have WiMax here, though, surprisingly, and Verizon has LTE here - T-Mobile is 200kbps download speeds during peak time, prolly as bad as Sprint's overloaded network).

 

[xlDeMoNiClx]

I think I get what his view was but I couldn't understand what the hell they were saying in that article. It was poorly written.

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[dmmarck]

Nay

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[pauldroidr2d2]

And yes the I5 will sell millions of phones, probably more than the SIII. Nobody is debating that. I'm not, I'm sure it will break all sorts of records. I was an Iphone user and owned the first four Iphones and also own an Ipad, I know the benefits of owning Apple products. But I also know that Android is a great OS and the SIII is a great phone. Frankly I don't care how many Iphones they sell, IMO the product they're offering is not good enough to sway me from giving up my SIII.

Look this isn't political debate. If you're looking for that kind of topic then you need to go elsewhere. Very few of us will see any real benefit from Iphone sales, considering Apple outsources it parts and labor oversees, just like every other company, domestic or foreign.

If they were manufacturing the phones here then yes I would agree, we should factor that into our buying decision. But they're making it in China with foreign parts so how is that really benefitting us? I don't see any real benefit unless you own Apple stock. It's a great story and great PR for Apple but I think your reading too much into that.

Microsoft, Google, Motorola, HP, as well as Samsung, Sony, Sharp and Acer employ people here in the U.S. as well as around the world. These are all large global companies as well, not just Apple.

The State of California believes it will benefit its bottom line. They do for a couple of reasons. The first being the sales tax revenue it will receive off of each sale of an iPhone. The second being that Apple is based in CA and pays taxes to the state. That is also why CA was so hopeful for Facebook stock to be successful. Facebook is also based in CA. CA invested oodles of money from the public employee retirement funds in Facebook stock. They also chose to include estimated tax revenue from FB stock sales in their budget that they passed in June 2012.

So even though none of these products are manufactured in the US, some are very dependent on how well they sell and how well the company does.

 

[delta7]

Let me put this in terms you can understand DEATH TO I SHEEP

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Its just a phone, the iphone is simple to use and everything is in a icon. Let them do them, I ordered one and I'll be jumping ship.

And let's be perfectly really here, how many of you are gonna keep your gs3 for 2 years? Seriously.....

If the gs4 looks good you'll be selling your gs3 in a heartbeat. I give apple credit for the basic business model they have. It works for them.

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[moda.root]

All phones are the same, what u choose is what will make the difference, in your decision.

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[bearballz72]

My wife who is using my old iphone 4 says nay. I keep telling her of all the "new features", and she still says nay.

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Yeah she'll be getting IOS6 on her I4 so she'll be a happy camper.

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The State of California believes it will benefit its bottom line. They do for a couple of reasons. The first being the sales tax revenue it will receive off of each sale of an iPhone. The second being that Apple is based in CA and pays taxes to the state. That is also why CA was so hopeful for Facebook stock to be successful. Facebook is also based in CA. CA invested oodles of money from the public employee retirement funds in Facebook stock. They also chose to include estimated tax revenue from FB stock sales in their budget that they passed in June 2012.

So even though none of these products are manufactured in the US, some are very dependent on how well they sell and how well the company does.

Yeah but how does that help the rest of us who don't live in California? Won't see the benefits here in Illinois?

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

Yeah she'll be getting IOS6 on her I4 so she'll be a happy camper.

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Yeah but how does that help the rest of us who don't live in California? Won't see the benefits here in Illinois?

California sends a lot of money to Washington D.C. The majority of which does not come back to CA. So, a lot of other states will see some sort of monetary benefit coming from money that came from CA.

 

[bearballz72]

One other thing. The fact that u state the if u don't own stocks in apple its not helping? You obviously are ilinformed. So if apple's not helping let's just take them out of the equation. Let's take there stock out of the markets. What would that do to the Dow Jones industrial. It lower the sh** out its overall points, what does that mean. Everyone 401s IRA would see a sibstanitail decrease. Please don't make comments in which u obviously don't know anything about
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Well obviously you're trying to start a completely different topic here and I won't bite. I'm sorry but you may be able to afford Apple stock but I cannot. So I don't benefit from it. You're also talking in hypotheticals which makes you seem unimformed.

Let's look at it this in another way, and I'm talking in hypotheticals just like you are. Motorola Mobility which is now owned by Google is based outside of Chicago where I live, so we're talking about two American companies here. They make pretty nice phones as well, Google also has the Nexus line of phones and tablets which are made by Asus and Samsung. So for every thousand Iphones that Apple sells that's a thousand phones Motorola Mobility/Google will potentially not sell. That mean's by your logic if Motorola Mobility is getting crushed by the Iphone, Google/Motorola Mobility may have to let go of more engineers, designers, programmers etc. More jobs lost and the economy gets worst.

Which also means Google's stock drops and people lose money? Correct me if I'm wrong here because I'm going by your warped Fox news inspired view. Yeah it may create some jobs in northern California but it may mean losing more jobs here in Illinois and also California (so a wash in California, hypothetically of course).. So again how does Apple selling tens of millions of Iphones benefit me here in Illinois and possibly California?

Samsung has their North American headquarters here outside of Chicago and employs a couple hundred people. Same senerio here, Apple sues Samsung, gets a cool billion. Iphone crushes the SIII and Samsung hypothetically says we need to cut down on our U.S. staff. So more people out of work in Illinois according to your pretzel logic.

So please rant somewhere else because your arguement makes no sense. We're not talking about buying a car and whether we should buy American or not. We're talking about a phone. A phone that is designed here in the U.S. by the most wealthy company in the world, and manufactured by near slave labor in China with foreign parts. Not some small Mom-and-Pop operation that makes everything in house.

Also the Iphone 4 and 4s and Ipad 2 and the "new" Ipad were also released during this economic climate and it did zilch to help the national economy. California and Illinois as well as other states are in a giant budgetary hole and it's going to take more than the Iphone to bring us out of this mess.

 

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[kiwicarlos741]

ip5:4.0 screen s3: 4.8 screen use 20 inches away for eye comfort
ip5: 4g lte s3: 4g lte
ip5:retina display s3: hd super amoled display
ip5: 1136 x 640 resolution s3: 1280 x 720 hd resolution Too big two hands 10 finger strain
ip5: up to 225 hrs standby time s3: up to 790 hrs standby time practical when not in use
ip5: full hd 1080p video recording s3: full hd 1080p video recording
ip5: 3.95 oz weight s3: 4.7 oz weight because plastic is heavier than glass and aluminum
ip5: 1gb ram s3: 2gb ram for faster processing, it is our only way of being fluid
ip5: siri s3: 100 percent siri clone
ip5: 16,32,64gb fixed internal storage s3: 16 or 32 fixed + up to 64 gb mico storage never misplace the sd card
ip5: iOS 6.0 os s3: android 4.0 OS latest is 4.1 update coming soon
ip5: a totally different plug s3: standard micro usb plug, clone of lighting coming very soon
ip5: immature for primetime s3: NFC security features coming soon, atleast were first
ip5: ibooks needs smart stay s3: smart stay we didnt copy this from iOS so its innovative
ip5: airdrop. share even meters away, coming soon with nfc s3:s-beam share 1 centimeter away, thats innovation for practicality
ip5: shared photostream. you can even like and comment s3: shareshot OMG, well ad like and comment feature too
ip5: icloud wirth shared accounts via iwork, easier to use s3: group cast well our feature is more powerful
ip5: call button in messages, redundancy samsung? s3: direct call, we saved 2 seconds of your time with this innovation
ip5: iOS notifications in lockscreen. redundancy samsung? s3: smart alert we saved 2 seconds of your time with this innovation
ip5: pinch to zoom s3: tilt to zoom done copying that beat ours
ip5: sleep and home button capture less accidental capturing s3: palm swipe capture you can turn it off for less accidents
ip5: iOS SDK inspired technology there is an app for that s3: palm touch mute pause iOS was our inspiration
ip5: an iwork 09 feature for iOS and mountain lion s3: picture in picture copy paste
ip5: iOS SDK inspired technology there is an app for that s3: turn over to mute iOS was our inspiration
ip5: shake to undo (edit) swipe to refresh and shake to refresh s3: shake to update iOS was our inspiration
ip5: please hid the ugly part when removing battery s3: removable battery show us so well just copy

 

[Syrous44]

Although its a clear bet that iphone5 will out sell all of the flagship android devices out now. I pass on the iphone, to closed off and os so old and boring. Love my gnex running jelly bean 4.1.1. So so smooth and fast. Also love google now, so much better and accurate compared to iphones siri which is still very buggy and just garbage compared to google now. Also my gnex was doing feature wise months ago what iphone5 is just getting now. Plus no nfc when you can get it on a cheep crappy Rim produced curve, come on. Iphone 5 is still a solid year behind in functionality then what android can offer with the sgiii the gnex and any other android running jelly bean.


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[xlDeMoNiClx]

Although its a clear bet that iphone5 will out sell all of the flagship android devices out now. I pass on the iphone, to closed off and os so old and boring. Love my gnex running jelly bean 4.1.1. So so smooth and fast. Also love google now, so much better and accurate compared to iphones siri which is still very buggy and just garbage compared to google now. Also my gnex was doing feature wise months ago what iphone5 is just getting now. Plus no nfc when you can get it on a cheep crappy Rim produced curve, come on. Iphone 5 is still a solid year behind in functionality then what android can offer with the sgiii the gnex and any other android running jelly bean.


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As it's been said, the only real reason the iPhone 5 will outsell everything else is cause Apple have masterfully brainwashed so many people into thinking everything they make is automatically the next big thing, just cause they made it.

 

[Syrous44]

As it's been said, the only real reason the iPhone 5 will outsell everything else is cause Apple have masterfully brainwashed so many people into thinking everything they make is automatically the next big thing, just cause they made it.

I hear yeah, their nothing more then a super impressive marketing company. They surly know how to make people open their pocket books and over pay for equal or sub par products compared to the compition. Pretty eye candy all day long really.

However, I do got to give them props for their ecosystem. But sooner or later android and windows will equal and surpass that as well.

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