"I've ordered my Nexus 6P" (Order & Shipping Discussion)

[titaniumSS]

Actually, it has a lot more to do with the actual physical capacity than "overhead". Let me explain.

The capacity of a storage device is expressed using the metric system. So, 1 Gigabyte = 1 billion bytes. However, computers use binary system to show storage capacity, and that's where you lose some "bytes".

In metric, 1 kilo = 1000 (10^3)
However, in binary, 1 kilo = 1024 (2^10)

So, in computer terms, 1 KB = 1024 bytes, while in metric, 1 KB = 1000 bytes, see how it takes 24 extra bytes for every KB?

Now, 32 GB storage has the physical capacity to store 32 billion bytes approximately (due to manufacturing it's never exactly 32 billion, but typically always a little more and not less)

But in computer terms,
32000000000 bytes = 31250000 KB (32000000000 ÷ 1024) = 30517.58 MB (31250000 ÷ 1024) = 29.80 GB (30517.58 ÷ 1024).

As you can see, a storage device with a metric capacity of 32GB can actually store 29.80 GB of binary data. For 64 GB, the actual binary capacity is 59.60 GB

If you take the info from the unboxing video (screenshot of the storage settings), it looks like the OS is about 4.79 GB (29.80 - 25.01). From that, you can expect about 59.60 - 4.79 = 54.81 GB available in the 64GB versions.

The guy in the video simply is clueless about what I just explained. He thought, if 32 GB has 25 GB available, 64 must have 50.. Lol..

BTW, because of the confusion between the commercial (metric) and binary capacity, there is another term GiB (MiB, KiB) that is used to show the actual binary capacity. So, 32 GB = 29.80 GiB. Look it up.

Hope it cleared up the confusion.



Edit: For comparison, Nexus 6 32GB has 25.98 GiB and 64 GB has 54.65 GiB available. Because of the variations in manufacturing, the actual number of bytes (as opposed to stated capacity) vary among different manufacturers as well as chip sizes.

Very good explanation. I wouldn't have been able to convey it that easily, lol. Hopefully more people read this and understand a bit more about the internal workings of storage systems on our devices.

 

[leicamagic]

Nexus 6P

128GB

Graphite

Haven't been this excited for a phone for a long time. I just hope the AMOLED panel is high end and not the garbage they put in the Nexus 6.

This.
Nexus 6 amoled is garbage. I returned mine after a week.

 

[ankah]

this,

if you announce something to sell, it should be available to sell immediately after

Do preorders and people complain that they have to wait too long to get what they ordered. Cut off preorders for certain models when the line gets too long and people complain that they can't preorder anymore. Are we spoiled brats or what?

 

[Ashwiniaps7]

this,

if you announce something to sell, it should be available to sell immediately after

It does take the joy out of the phone. I mean ok a week at most after the launch seems reasonable. But 3-4 weeks?? That is a bit much. Either they are starting making phones based on response or the phones are waiting in a warehouse in the far east waiting for where to send them.

 

[RDamon Salvatore]

I like the one can use in water but i didn't find it

 

[titaniumSS]

If you're asking if you can use it in the water, the answer is no.

 

[nrfitchett4]

Just ordered 32gb aluminium one. First nexus device. Let's see what all the hype is about. Delivery sometime in November...

 

[opticalgenesis]

I know this is mostly people ordering from Big G, but for comparison's sake, here in the UK I ordered mine through The Carphone Warehouse and they're projecting a delivery BY the 22nd of October, so unless the rumours are true, maybe I made the right decision looking at some of your estimated delivery dates...

 

[jiden77]

I know this is mostly people ordering from Big G, but for comparison's sake, here in the UK I ordered mine through The Carphone Warehouse and they're projecting a delivery BY the 22nd of October, so unless the rumours are true, maybe I made the right decision looking at some of your estimated delivery dates...

Good to hear. Let's hope orders from Google and Hauwei direct follow suit!

 

[bpe4]

I know this is mostly people ordering from Big G, but for comparison's sake, here in the UK I ordered mine through The Carphone Warehouse and they're projecting a delivery BY the 22nd of October, so unless the rumours are true, maybe I made the right decision looking at some of your estimated delivery dates...

I applaud your optimism. However, I severely doubt that Google would allow a reseller in a small market to upstage their own delivery times, or even Huawei's delivery times.. (safe to say that UK is a small market compared to India, China, USA, etc...)

 

[marlon89br]

That is what I am hoping for... I ordered from Google UK on day one because I think they will not disappoint their own pre-order customers by allowing Carphone Warehouse to ship the phones before them.

 

[Nreeldeep]

It does take the joy out of the phone. I mean ok a week at most after the launch seems reasonable. But 3-4 weeks?? That is a bit much. Either they are starting making phones based on response or the phones are waiting in a warehouse in the far east waiting for where to send them.

How does it take the joy out of a phone you don't have yet?
Nobody is obligated to pre-order a phone a month out just because that's when pre-order opened up. You were aware how far out the pre-order was when you decided to pre-order. Google provided a shipping window. You know what that is. You should have waited until a week before that and pre-ordered since you consider a week out more reasonable.
People choose to run out in the rain but get mad at God when they get wet. Smh

 

[opticalgenesis]

Good to hear. Let's hope orders from Google and Hauwei direct follow suit!

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you.

 

[opticalgenesis]

I applaud your optimism. However, I severely doubt that Google would allow a reseller in a small market to upstage their own delivery times, or even Huawei's delivery times.. (safe to say that UK is a small market compared to India, China, USA, etc...)

Oh I know it's a massive longshot to hope that, but hey, glass half full and that

 

[Mdbills484]

this,

if you announce something to sell, it should be available to sell immediately after

So if they delayed the announcement a few weeks into late October instead of late September, are you saying you wouldn't be complaining about how long Google took to announce the new phones and how frustrated you were from all the leaks, without Google actually confirming anything? Somehow I doubt it.

 

[ankah]

Your wrong, if they didn't announce it until is was shipping I wouldn't care / it would be cool. there is a difference between speculation made by people on the internet / outside the company VS. The company saying " this is our new product "

No its not your new product cause its not for sale

The purpose of the long delay between announcement is either reduce production costs ( unlikely since time it takes to boat devices from overseas )

Or its a hey look at me for marketing and impress stockholders. Then background quiet, hen hey look at me again this device is now in people's hands, impressing stockholders and marketing again

So if they delayed the announcement a few weeks into late October instead of late September, are you saying you wouldn't be complaining about how long Google took to announce the new phones and how frustrated you were from all the leaks, without Google actually confirming anything? Somehow I doubt it.

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[Robbie317]

Last year Motorola started taking preorders about two weeks after Google started taking preorders and those of us who ordered from Motorola two weeks after Google started getting phones before the people that ordered from Google directly.... I almost ordered directly from Huawei but they charge tax in Texas so it's a better deal to order from Google with the $50 play store credit (I buy a bunch of movies for my kids through the play store so the credit works for me)

Hopefully Google starts to ship sooner rather than later this year.... They did a great job with the Nexus 5 but not so good with the Nexus 6....

 

[Mdbills484]

Your wrong, if they didn't announce it until is was shipping I wouldn't care / it would be cool. there is a difference between speculation made by people on the internet / outside the company VS. The company saying " this is our new product "

No its not your new product cause its not for sale

The purpose of the long delay between announcement is either reduce production costs ( unlikely since time it takes to boat devices from overseas )

Or its a hey look at me for marketing and impress stockholders. Then background quiet, hen hey look at me again this device is now in people's hands, impressing stockholders and marketing again



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Cool, I see you've got it all figured out whereas one of the largest companies in the world is obviously clueless at production and marketing and they know precisely how to suck the joy out of a phone purchase for consumers. Must have been a helluva focus group to come up with that one.

 

[Mdbills484]

Your wrong, if they didn't announce it until is was shipping I wouldn't care / it would be cool. there is a difference between speculation made by people on the internet / outside the company VS. The company saying " this is our new product "

No its not your new product cause its not for sale

The purpose of the long delay between announcement is either reduce production costs ( unlikely since time it takes to boat devices from overseas )

Or its a hey look at me for marketing and impress stockholders. Then background quiet, hen hey look at me again this device is now in people's hands, impressing stockholders and marketing again



Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk

Cool, I see you've got it all figured out whereas one of the largest companies in the world is obviously clueless at production and marketing and they know precisely how to suck the joy out of a phone purchase for consumers. Must have been a helluva focus group to come up with that one.

 

[tekmantoo]

They are using Samsung AMOLED panels, so they should be outstanding, though I read they aren't using the same density as the panel on the Galaxy Note 5 but still excellent.