My Rant on the iPhone 5s

[anon5664829]

The Play store has that too, and you can remotely download apps. Can you do that with iOS? No.

Actually you can.

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[anon5664829]

Oh yes, Apple's goals. You mean the one size fits all idea and screw you if you want anything else goal? And they are behind the times because of that very reason. They keep releasing very little we haven't already seen for at least a month. It comes down to a lot of reasons why they're behind, but I'll list a few: They only release one or two phones a year, they're almost never the first ones to come out with new technology anymore, and ios even with the new update to iOS 7 still lacks tons of features. And the gestures work for me, so I don't know if you did something wrong or you got a bad unit.

The update from the s3 to the s4 was much more of an update than the one from the to 5s. Apple kept the same screen size and ppi just to further prove my point, it's a joke. With the s4 we received an amazing screen, processing power which is insanely good, a much better camera with more megapixels, and a much more refined experience with touchwiz (oh and the handful of new features we haven't seen before). I'll say some of the features of the s4 are gimmicky, but not all. There's some I do use and like. And the fingerprint scanner is gimmicky, there's pretty much no reason to have that on a phone and a good amount of people won't use it.

Rooting the phone is an acceptable answer, and so many people realize that. There are hundreds of thousands of people running cyanogenmod on the s3, and that's only one rom. It isn't a huge number compared to the billion activations, but it's certainly larged and getting bigger.

Apple is not behind but you aren't gonna believe that because you are spec person. Whatever. No point continuing this discussion anymore since you can't get past how the S4 was as massive upgrade and the 5S wasn't even though the 5S and S4 upgrades were pretty big. You should also consider accepting other peoples opinions.

Btw rooting is not acceptable answer AT ALL.

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[Fairclough]

Thank god 2 days ago was suicide prevent day before stepping in this thread. Classic Apple v Android antics. Tbh I have these with my middle brother whoses an Apple fan boy. Everyone will have their viee. And will be stubborn not to shift.

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[21stNow]

Ok T-mobile. ATT and Verizon are 100 percent against Google Wallet which is where part of the issue lies. NFC is not useless but it is held back because of this.

T-Mobile does the same thing that AT&T and Verizon Wireless do in blocking Google Wallet. Sprint is the only carrier that supports Google Wallet. That's why I pointed out that I use a Nexus 4 (and the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S before that) to use Google Wallet. Nexus users can use Google Wallet on all carriers.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Other then Play services what other choices? And what's wrong about the App store? It has all the apps you would want. Plus you've got WiFi syncing so again whats the problem?

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Have you been living under a rock?

We get the Amazon App Store as a Play Store alternative, Google Play has what I need too, and Wi-Fi syncing? How about launching the Play Store on your PC and sending a command to your phone to download that app from there?

Sorry for the mini-rant. But trust me. Android has changed A TON since the T-Mobile G1.

 

[anon5664829]

T-Mobile does the same thing that AT&T and Verizon Wireless do in blocking Google Wallet. Sprint is the only carrier that supports Google Wallet. That's why I pointed out that I use a Nexus 4 (and the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S before that) to use Google Wallet. Nexus users can use Google Wallet on all carriers.

Not supported in my country lol.

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[qxr]

That is problematic. Geez cannot imagine a control like that in my life.

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[JasW]

Apple cult? That's low.

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I take it you were unamused by last year's Samsung ads suggesting as much. There is certainly more than a kernel of truth in that observation, however, which is why the ad was so popular -- and worked to devastating effect. So too is there truth in the observation that it is the preferred platform of clueless old fuddy-duddies. I recently attended a conference at which the majority of attendees belonged to a certain professional class renowned for their technological out-of-datedness, if not ineptness. Most of them had iPhones.

 

[DroidArmy]

Apple is not behind but you aren't gonna believe that because you are spec person. Whatever. No point continuing this discussion anymore since you can't get past how the S4 was as massive upgrade and the 5S wasn't even though the 5S and S4 upgrades were pretty big. You should also consider accepting other peoples opinions.

Btw rooting is not acceptable answer AT ALL.

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I think you're giving up because you realize I'm right. Apple is behind, and if you've read any decent article online most people would agree. The S4 upgrade? Pretty big compared to the s3 within reason. And the iPhone upgrade was big, it just didn't bring many new not already seen things to the table. That's what I'm talking about when I say minimal. And I do accept other opinions, when they provide accurate information to back it up and look at the big picture

 

[DroidArmy]

Actually you can.

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Without iTunes? Online from any computer or ANY phone? No you can't

 

[mitzeee]

Still 67% of apps are not upgraded to the new well now old 4 inch screen , same with safari save a bookmark to the homescreen and open it and its a 3.5 display , very poor that apple has not fixed thst even on ios 7 , both new phones are not a good upgrade , apple spend too much time in courts than inovating . I have both a htc one and iphone 5 the iphone 5 will not be upgraded till the iphone has more storage 128gb and a bigger screen till then its android thats better



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[maj71303]

Apple misses the boat on NFC once again because the U.S. is not a representation on it's use. Outside the U.S. it is used a lot for payments on things people buy down to transportation. Probably one of the main reason apple lags badly outside the U.S. in most countries. The price of the phones are also a factor in this. NFC is big deal in Asian countries I go over often through a few and NFC is prevalent there.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Apple misses the boat on NFC once again because the U.S. is not a representation on it's use. Outside the U.S. it is used a lot for payments on things people buy down to transportation. Probably one of the main reason apple lags badly outside the U.S. in most countries. The price of the phones are also a factor in this. NFC is big deal in Asian countries I go over often through a few and NFC is prevalent there.

No NFC = No deal.

Also, Apple fanboys don't know what NFC is used for. WHAT.

 

[Jaredshoes]

I never said I was mad, I called it a rant. It's my personal opinion about the phone. It doesn't mean you have to agree with me

so people rant about things that don't make them mad..you're so worked up over this iPhone 5s just go on about your day and enjoy Android I don't understand why both sides feel the need to flame eachother makes no sense at all.

 

[garublador]

You don't get to choose which features get added to what device, the OEM does. So what's really so different in that regard? You can't decide that you want the display from the One, software of the S4, and camera of the Lumia 1020. You're stuck with what Samsung, HTC, etc decide to put in the phone.

Don't mistake the various hardware/software combinations that OEM's put out that as some sort of freedom that iOS users don't have.

Of course there's a freedom iOS users don't have. On Android we just have more than one company telling us what we can/can't have on our devices.There are at least 5 Android phones with different sets of features with power on par with each iPhone. With iOS you're stuck with the one phone per year Apple releases. With Android you have dozens of phones per year to choose from. Android is literally orders of magnitude better than iOS in hardware and feature choices. You can't just limit it to one phone from one OEM and then compare that to Apple, you have to look at all phones on all OEM's.

Say you want an Android phone with a larger screen than the S4. You have several options. Say you want an Android phone with a smaller screen than the S4, you have tons of options.

Say you want an iOS phone with a larger screen than the 5, your'e out of luck. Say you want a phone with a smaller screen than the 5. You have one option and it's two years old.

It may have been different in the GB days, but I'll take that first scenerio any day now even if it means I have to go a year without an OS update. I'd way rather have the features I want now than having to cross my fingers that they'll add what I want in a software update in a year.


It's not a big deal, but this was bugging me so I had to point it out.

That is exactly what I am saying. A 10 squared is much easier number to crack than 4 to the power of 10.

I think you mean 2 to the power of 10 is a much easier number to crack than 10 to the power of 4.

 

[fillmore.east]

Oh yes, Apple's goals. You mean the one size fits all idea and screw you if you want anything else goal? And they are behind the times because of that very reason. They keep releasing very little we haven't already seen for at least a month. It comes down to a lot of reasons why they're behind, but I'll list a few: They only release one or two phones a year, they're almost never the first ones to come out with new technology anymore, and ios even with the new update to iOS 7 still lacks tons of features. And the gestures work for me, so I don't know if you did something wrong or you got a bad unit.

The update from the s3 to the s4 was much more of an update than the one from the to 5s. Apple kept the same screen size and ppi just to further prove my point, it's a joke. With the s4 we received an amazing screen, processing power which is insanely good, a much better camera with more megapixels, and a much more refined experience with touchwiz (oh and the handful of new features we haven't seen before). I'll say some of the features of the s4 are gimmicky, but not all. There's some I do use and like. And the fingerprint scanner is gimmicky, there's pretty much no reason to have that on a phone and a good amount of people won't use it.

Rooting the phone is an acceptable answer, and so many people realize that. There are hundreds of thousands of people running cyanogenmod on the s3, and that's only one rom. It isn't a huge number compared to the billion activations, but it's certainly large and getting bigger.

Apple's "one size fit all" idea is the reason why there is so little fragmentation in their products and there is such a consistent user experience. They keep releasing "very little we haven't already seen for at least a month"? As if Apple saw the Moto X release and then scrambled to develop an entirely new chip in a month's time. Or as if a month is now some sort of technological eternity where things are already out of date.

So Apple kept the same screen size. Big deal. Because they didn't make the screen bigger, it's not considered a significant update? The 5 to 5s is a far larger update than the 4s to 5. It doesn't bother me or most people in the slightest that the design is the same, because the iPhone 5's design is great. It's lightweight, attractive and well built. What's the need for it to look different? If the S5 doesn't increase the screen size, are you going to call Samsung a joke too? The rest of the reasons why the S4 is a huge upgrade... processing power, better camera, more refined user experience, I'd say that Apple did those things just as well. The processing power in the iPhone 5s will likely be 2nd to none when it launches. I don't care how powerful the S4's computing abilities are. It STILL stutters at times. Again, user experience over raw numbers. There is absolutely no excuse for a phone with that kind of power to lag. Sure I could turn off all the animations, but it's just like having to root your phone to get an update. These are things that are SUPPOSED to work from the getgo. Make your phone work the way that it's supposed to work. iOS has always been well optimized for Apple's hardware and it shows in day to day performance. The new camera will likely be 2nd to none. The 2 year old iPhone 4s camera is STILL better than the 13 megapixel S4 camera as far as quality of photos. Oh and the entire OS has been overhauled, just because the new OS is coming to ALL iPhones does not make this any less of an update than touchwiz from S3 and S4. Again, fragmentation is a BAD thing. There is no reason to have a fingerprint scanner on a phone? Really? For anyone whose corporate IT requires a passcode to unlock, this makes life way easier. Is it completely secure? No. But is it both more secure AND more convenient than a 4 digit pin number? Yes. And if it is well executed, it will be a very convenient feature that will see a lot of use. We'll see whether this is a "gimmick" or not if Android phones follow suit. Will it still be a gimmick if Android adopts it? I'd say no, because that would mean that there is enough utility in the feature that google will see it as a positive selling point in their devices. Gimmicks are things like the air gestures. If the day ever comes that I decide to eat a dozen heavily sauced buffalo wings and decide that I absolutely need to be able to do things without touching the screen (and somehow be able to navigate to those settings without touching the phone), then I will come back and admit that air gestures are useful.

Also, rooting Android phones is still for a niche community. Just like jailbreaking iPhones. Again, having to hack your phone to get OS updates that are supposed to be on the phone is just flat out ridiculous. I don't care if it's easy, or simple. It's a failure in principle. Is Apple limiting user choice in devices and customization of their devices a strike against them? Sure, but the consistency and unified user experience far outweighs that.

 

[DroidArmy]

Apple's "one size fit all" idea is the reason why there is so little fragmentation in their products and there is such a consistent user experience. They keep releasing "very little we haven't already seen for at least a month"? As if Apple saw the Moto X release and then scrambled to develop an entirely new chip in a month's time. Or as if a month is now some sort of technological eternity where things are already out of date.

So Apple kept the same screen size. Big deal. Because they didn't make the screen bigger, it's not considered a new update? The 5 to 5s is a far larger update than the 4s to 5. It doesn't bother me or most people in the slightest that the design is the same, because the iPhone 5's design is great. It's lightweight, attractive and well built. What's the need for it to look different? If the S5 doesn't increase the screen size, are you going to call Samsung a joke too? The rest of the reasons why the S4 is a huge upgrade... processing power, better camera, more refined user experience, I'd say that Apple did those things just as well. The processing power in the iPhone 5s will likely be 2nd to none when it launches. I don't care how powerful the S4's computing abilities are. It STILL stutters at times. Again, user experience over raw numbers. There is absolutely no excuse for a phone with that kind of power to lag. And no, turning off all the animations/options/etc is not a "solution". Make your phone work the way that it's supposed to work. iOS has always been well optimized for Apple's hardware and it shows in day to day performance. The new camera will likely be 2nd to none. The 2 year old iPhone 4s camera is STILL better than the 13 megapixel S4 camera as far as quality of photos. Oh and the entire OS has been overhauled, just because the new OS is coming to ALL iPhones does not make this any less of an update than touchwiz from S3 and S4. Again, fragmentation is a BAD thing. There is no reason to have a fingerprint scanner on a phone? Really? For anyone whose corporate IT requires a passcode to unlock, this makes life way easier. Is it completely secure? No. But is it both more secure AND more convenient than a 4 digit pin number? Yes. And if it is well executed, it will be a very convenient feature that will see a lot of use. We'll see whether this is a "gimmick" or not if Android phones follow suit. Will it still be a gimmick if Android adopts it? I'd say no, because that would mean that there is enough utility in the feature that google will see it as a positive selling point in their devices.

You wanna know what goes through my mind when I read your posts? "oh god, not this guy again". I don't mean that personally, it's just you don't understand what I'm saying and we're wasting tons of time.

Apple has been releasing very little we haven't already seen. That's due to their stupid release dates, android beats them to it. That doesn't mean the technology is old by any means, but we have already seen it.

No, if the Galaxy s5 doesn't increase its screen size it won't matter. That's because it's already PLENTY LARGE, something that Apple doesn't understand. This is why people wanted a bigger screen, they're just too Damn small on the iPhones.

Nope, the iPhone will have its processor power beat by the new exynos chip. And mine doesn't studder or lag because the animations option IS A SOLUTION.

No, the camera isn't better. The one on the Galaxy s4 and the 3 beat it by a mile. 8 mexapixel vs 13 on the S4, the s4 wins. It could have all of Apple's optimizations, but it doesn't have the specs.

The fingerprint scanner is gimmicky, it's rarely used. I had one on my laptop and an old phone I had, they're absolutely worthless . It was a mistake, that's why most companies gave up on it

 

[fillmore.east]

You wanna know what goes through my mind when I read your posts? "oh god, not this guy again". I don't mean that personally, it's just you don't understand what I'm saying and we're wasting tons of time.

Apple has been releasing very little we haven't already seen. That's due to their stupid release dates, android beats them to it. That doesn't mean the technology is old by any means, but we have already seen it.

No, if the Galaxy s5 doesn't increase its screen size it won't matter. That's because it's already PLENTY LARGE, something that Apple doesn't understand. This is why people wanted a bigger screen, they're just too Damn small on the iPhones.

Nope, the iPhone will have its processor power beat by the new exynos chip. And mine doesn't studder or lag because the animations option IS A SOLUTION.

No, the camera isn't better. The one on the Galaxy s4 and the 3 beat it by a mile. 8 mexapixel vs 13 on the S4, the s4 wins. It could have all of Apple's optimizations, but it doesn't have the specs.

The fingerprint scanner is gimmicky, it's rarely used. I had one on my laptop and an old phone I had, they're absolutely worthless . It was a mistake, that's why most companies gave up on it

No. The animations thing is not a solution, just like rooting to get updates is not a solution. Did you consider putting a case on the original iPhone 4's antenna issues a "solution"? I sure as hell don't. That was a failure. Period. There was a workaround for that failure, but it doesn't make it less of a failure in the sense that things did not work the way they were supposed to work. And the big reason why I skipped the iPhone 4. You don't seem to understand... 13 megapixels does not make the S4 camera better than an 8 megapixel camera. My 4s camera was better than my Samsung s4 camera. Period. Less megapixels, it was just better. The image quality was better. Again, you look at things from a specs perspective and fail to think about how htis translates to real-life use. If I have the option of using my s4 vs a 5 year old 8 megapixel digital camera, to take anything other than drunken bar photos (because I don't carry a camera to the bar), I'd choose the 8 megapixel camera. It's a better shooter than both my iPhone AND s4. Why? Because there are things that matter more than megapixels. If we're going by just megapixels, my Motorola Droid (the first one from 2009) should be taking better pictures htan the 4 mp HTC one.

The finger print scanner on your computer and previous phone were rarely used because they were poorly executed. I never use the fingerprint scanner on my old laptop because it was finicky and required too much effort that was more cumbersome than simply typing in a password. If the iPhone fingerprint scanner is well executed, then it will be used. Read about the technology, it is far more sophisticated than the fingerprint scanners on laptops from 6 years ago.

 

[21stNow]

No. The animations thing is not a solution, just like rooting to get updates is not a solution. Did you consider putting a case on the original iPhone 4's antenna issues a "solution"? I sure as hell don't. That was a failure. Period. There was a workaround for that failure, but it doesn't make it less of a failure in the sense that things did not work the way they were supposed to work. And the big reason why I skipped the iPhone 4. You don't seem to understand... 13 megapixels does not make the S4 camera better than an 8 megapixel camera. My 4s camera was better than my Samsung s4 camera. Period. Less megapixels, it was just better. The image quality was better. Again, you look at things from a specs perspective and fail to think about how htis translates to real-life use. If I have the option of using my s4 vs a 5 year old 8 megapixel digital camera, to take anything other than drunken bar photos (because I don't carry a camera to the bar), I'd choose the 8 megapixel camera. It's a better shooter than both my iPhone AND s4. Why? Because there are things that matter more than megapixels. If we're going by just megapixels, my Motorola Droid (the first one from 2009) should be taking better pictures htan the 4 mp HTC one.

The finger print scanner on your computer and previous phone were rarely used because they were poorly executed. I never use the fingerprint scanner on my old laptop because it was finicky and required too much effort that was more cumbersome than simply typing in a password. If the iPhone fingerprint scanner is well executed, then it will be used. Read about the technology, it is far more sophisticated than the fingerprint scanners on laptops from 6 years ago.

The iPhone 4 antenna situation was overblown in my opinion, and it's sad that you missed one of (if not) the best iPhones out there because of it. I had an iPhone 4 and between myself and my co-workers and friends that had one, not one of us experienced dropped calls/degraded reception when covering the antenna with our hand. When the story first broke, I did a choke hold on my phone to see if the bars went down and it did. I tried several more times to replicate the situation, but couldn't. I stopped worrying about it because I don't hold my phone in a choke hold anyway, and other things may have been causing interference the one time that the signal did drop.

 

[itic]

A 16gb C goes for $549 and that's supposed to be cheap? Heard Apple stock took a big ol dump b/c Apples failed to provide a cheap phone.