No matter how good the V30 is, it still may not put a huge dent in sales of the duopoly.

[ffejjj]

Well, wide angle lenses are gimmicks that I thoroughly enjoy on a phone. So much so that after using the G6 it's a near must have for me.

 

[Mike Dee]

Well, wide angle lenses are gimmicks that I thoroughly enjoy on a phone. So much so that after using the G6 it's a neat must have for me.

Agreed....must have for me

 

[Mike Dee]

Well, wide angle lenses are gimmicks that I thoroughly enjoy on a phone. So much so that after using the G6 it's a near must have for me.

Though I'm not a big fan of selfies I also enjoy the front facing wide cam for group shots to get more people in or capture more background.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Well, wide angle lenses are gimmicks that I thoroughly enjoy on a phone. So much so that after using the G6 it's a near must have for me.

One person's gimmick is another person's treasure

 

[LeoRex]

The only difference between a wide angle picture and my panorama shot is that some people will be stitched weird. Otherwise, no visible difference.

First off, I will say that I thought the wide angle camera was a gimmick... cool to use once or twice but the sort of feature that would get forgotten. Then, for various reasons, I switched to a G6 for my daily driver and have had plenty of time to use it and it has totally changed my opinion. It's actually an extremely useful mode... And I am not sure if you've had a chance to use it more than just a demo, but it is MILES better than any pano picture. First, even the best pano will bork something in stitching or exposure... but the wide angle doesn't require any special handling. You zoom out (it will switch seamlessly between the two cameras), or click the wide angle button and its there. One tap, picture taken. There's no "please all stand there and wait while I do a pirouette" pleads... one pic.. boom.

And you can take videos with it... do that with your pano mode.

Look, I will be the first to admit that LG did make a compromise in picture quality (sensors are small) in order to have matched dual cameras, but that wide angle camera isn't remotely replicated by any panorama or photosphere modes. If the larger size of the V30 means they bump up the sensors too.... that would be great.

 

[Aquila]

Since most people in the forums seem to think that we should just add hardware features to the device, just in case any random user might want to use it (instead of thoughtfully designing a phone) - why isn't there a clamor to just have 3 lenses on the back of the device? Telephoto, wide angle and regular.

 

[SchinkenSpicker]

Since most people in the forums seem to think that we should just add hardware features to the device, just in case any random user might want to use it (instead of thoughtfully designing a phone) - why isn't there a clamor to just have 3 lenses on the back of the device? Telephoto, wide angle and regular.

There have been rumors about Huawei making a camera with more than two sensors afaik haha. If it would be made with high quality sensors I wouldn't have a problem with it of course, but I assume worse sensors without OIS the more sensors are build in ...

 

[Mike Dee]

Since most people in the forums seem to think that we should just add hardware features to the device, just in case any random user might want to use it (instead of thoughtfully designing a phone) - why isn't there a clamor to just have 3 lenses on the back of the device? Telephoto, wide angle and regular.

Just make a wide angle zoom lens with one sensor

 

[LeoRex]

Just make a wide angle zoom lens with one sensor

hard to do because of packaging. Those types of lenses require a fair amount of travel, it's not like there's a lot of room there. The First Zenfone Zoom did that with a single lens/camera rig and it ended up with that weird camera circle thing in the back, which hid all the submarine-like plumbing they needed to pull it off. The Zenfone Zoom 3? They ditched the periscope and went with a dual camera setup.

 

[Mike Dee]

hard to do because of packaging. Those types of lenses require a fair amount of travel, it's not like there's a lot of room there. The First Zenfone Zoom did that with a single lens/camera rig and it ended up with that weird camera circle thing in the back, which hid all the submarine-like plumbing they needed to pull it off. The Zenfone Zoom 3? They ditched the periscope and went with a dual camera setup.

I know that....lol

 

[JohnMcL7]

I love ultra wide angle lenses and I think if more people realised what they were there might be more interest in them, panoramas are not an alternative as they're a different field of view. It's generally the ultra wide pictures people notice amongst my photos as the extreme geometric distortion and exaggerated perspective make for quite stand out photos. That said, I've a few friends that like the fake shallow depth of field effect from mixing a wide angle and normal FoV camera that some of the current dual camera setups offer.

In terms of dual cameras or a larger sensor, it's pretty easy to add a second camera module without adding size or weight if you've already got a compact one and it's an easier sell. A larger sensor and wider aperture makes for a larger camera module when everyone is trying to get the size down (and camera bulges usually get a lot of flak) and it's a more difficult sell as most consumers simply aren't aware of sensor sizes at all.

The UWA lens is definitely a big plus on the LG's for me.

 

[LeoRex]

The UWA lens is definitely a big plus on the LG's for me.

Yet I would gladly give up that second camera if the first one was then able to match the picture quality of my nearly two year old 6P. I'm not sure if the benefits of adding a second camera outweigh the compromises in quality required to do so.

 

[Aquila]

Yet I would gladly give up that second camera if the first one was then able to match the picture quality of my nearly two year old 6P. I'm not sure if the benefits of adding a second camera outweigh the compromises in quality required to do so.

Are you sure you're not holding it wrong?

 

[Mike Dee]

Are you sure you're not holding it wrong?

There's a wrong way to hold it?

 

[Aquila]

There's a wrong way to hold it?

Not sure

 

[JohnMcL7]

Yet I would gladly give up that second camera if the first one was then able to match the picture quality of my nearly two year old 6P. I'm not sure if the benefits of adding a second camera outweigh the compromises in quality required to do so.

Adding second camera doesn't necessarily degrade the other camera, there's several dual camera phones rated in the top categories for stills quality and most of the G6 issues are to do with the sensor and processing, nothing to do with the second camera.

John

 

[LeoRex]

Adding second camera doesn't necessarily degrade the other camera, there's several dual camera phones rated in the top categories for stills quality and most of the G6 issues are to do with the sensor and processing, nothing to do with the second camera.

The sensor that LG used for both rear cameras is quite small (1/3", versus the 1/2.3" in the Pixel), which I can only assume was done to allow enough space for both sensors to fit. The longer exposure times, the poor low light performance, the heavy handed noise reduction and sharpening... all that stuff is the result of the compromise in sensor size.

 

[EnemiesInTheEnd]

LG's heavy image sharpening has bothered me since I had my LG G2. I would never buy an LG, including the Google Pixel XL 2, if the images are going to be over-sharpened.

 

[Aquila]

LG's heavy image sharpening has bothered me since I had my LG G2. I would never buy an LG, including the Google Pixel XL 2, if the images are going to be over-sharpened.

Why would you think the LG phones have anything to do with the Pixel 2 XL? Edit to clarify: LG has nothing to do with the sensor, the imaging software or any other aspect of photography for the upcoming phone.

 

[LeoRex]

LG's heavy image sharpening has bothered me since I had my LG G2. I would never buy an LG, including the Google Pixel XL 2, if the images are going to be over-sharpened.

IF LG does the XL 2, they would do so in an ODM role with little, if any, input on the final product. Google isn't keen on artificial processing for their cameras... their HDR+ stuff is about as far away from what LG slathers on its pictures. The Nexus 5X, manufactured by LG, took pictures better than anything LG made for themselves. All LG did was physically install the sensor in the chassis, Google handled all other aspects.