Share Everything Plans

[WhoMe]

Your contract terms state otherwise.

The contract terms are written in such a fashion that VZW can do whatever they want at any time. So hoping to stick it to them by throwing the contract in thier face is essentially a waste of time.

The truth of the matter is that no matter how you use your service and what anyone defines as "abuse", it is thier playing field. The best we can hope to do is sneak by and test the limits. Get as much as we can get for as little as we can get away with paying. Afterall, that is what VZW is doing to us except in reverse..charging us as much as they can while giving us as little as possible, BUT making it seem as if its exactly what we want.

 

[TallyHo]

The killer is those access charges, in addition to the high rates for smaller amounts of data ($50 for 1GB, are you kidding me??) But those "access charges" are $30 a month for each dumbphone, and $40 a month for each smartphone, just for the privilege of actually being a part of the plan you already pay for. I currently pay $130 a month after a 9% discount and before $20 or so in taxes/fees, for 2 dumbphones and 1 smartphone on a 1400 Nationwide plan, and Unlimited Data and 500 texts for myself. With this new plan, I would be spending $120 a month just for the privilege of using the plan I already pay for. Which leaves about $10 for the plan itself, which ain't happening. So obviously I would stand to lose quite a bit of money with one of these new plans, and I don't see how VZW hopes to attract new customers when this is the case.

Sure, its nice to be able to share a bucket of data if you have to have artificially imposed data caps, but it has to be a reasonable amount. No way is 1gb gonna suffice for even 1 person with an LTE smartphone, much less a freaking family. I used to recommend Verizon to everyone because of their superior service, but I can no longer do that. They've shown they have no loyalty to long-time customers by ending Unlimited Data grandfathering, and now with this Share Everything plans, they don't even have a reasonable option for many customers, and I couldn't recommend anything even if I still wanted to.

I just hope Verizon gets burned so bad on this in terms of lost revenue that they are forced to go back to a more consumer-friendly structure.

What do you mean access fees? That $40/smartphone gets you unlimited voice and text. It's not an access fee, it the cost of the plan. The data is separate as always. I rarely use my phone to talk but even with the cheapest plan I pay way more than $40 for voice and text. It's more like $60 for both. That right there is a $20 savings.

I can see this may not be good for people with family plans or for those that use their data for home internet, streaming netflix, etc. I use my home internet for that plus I use WiFi at home. I mean, why not pay Comcast $20/month (always keep getting promo rates when they expire) and use your homenetwork to offset the data limits.

I guess i just don't see how people can use more the say 4GB per month on their data plan unless they are just being absurd with their usage and trying to stream everything on the planet. That's just me though.

Everyone is affected differently.

 

[Jude526]

It is because Verizon took on the iPhone that these plans have come into play. There was an article saying the FCC stated that Apple users would be hogging data and they would need to make changes. I can't remember where I saw it but because of this is why there are changes.
I would have to take the 10 gig plan at 100.00. I have the Mifi Internet. 5GIG for my laptop and tablet. I have the. 900 minutes with friends and family and unlimited texting. I get a corporate discount. I do use a lot of data. And my current plan works better price wise. The new plan would cost me more. I prefer paying outright for a phone. There is ebay and it gives a savings. Too bad Verizon didn't offer the choice and let it be fired the good of the customers and not Verizon. I could easily switch carriers but BUT Verizon hands down has the BEST network. I have tracked and I well go into 10 gig. But I can't pay more. It's a ripoff for some people

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[TallyHo]

It is because Verizon took on the iPhone that these plans have come into play. There was an article saying the FCC stated that Apple users would be hogging data and they would need to make changes. I can't remember where I saw it but because of this is why there are changes.
I would have to take the 10 gig plan at 100.00. I have the Mifi Internet. 5GIG for my laptop and tablet. I have the. 900 minutes with friends and family and unlimited texting. I get a corporate discount. I do use a lot of data. And my current plan works better price wise. The new plan would cost me more. I prefer paying outright for a phone. There is ebay and it gives a savings. Too bad Verizon didn't offer the choice and let it be fired the good of the customers and not Verizon. I could easily switch carriers but BUT Verizon hands down has the BEST network. I have tracked and I well go into 10 gig. But I can't pay more. It's a ripoff for some people

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No offense, but people like you that use 10GB/month are the reason we have seen the end of unlimited data. It's not every iPhone user out there. Plenty of them don't use that much data. I realize the plan is unlimited and that is your right under the contract. That said, 10GB is pretty absurd (in my opinion) and that type of usage is why things are changing. I know that it's just my opinion and others disagree (as they have the right to), but please be real. If you are using 10GB you are part of the problem that has led to the changed plans.

 

[Ry]

It is because Verizon took on the iPhone that these plans have come into play. There was an article saying the FCC stated that Apple users would be hogging data and they would need to make changes. I can't remember where I saw it but because of this is why there are changes.
I would have to take the 10 gig plan at 100.00. I have the Mifi Internet. 5GIG for my laptop and tablet. I have the. 900 minutes with friends and family and unlimited texting. I get a corporate discount. I do use a lot of data. And my current plan works better price wise. The new plan would cost me more. I prefer paying outright for a phone. There is ebay and it gives a savings. Too bad Verizon didn't offer the choice and let it be fired the good of the customers and not Verizon. I could easily switch carriers but BUT Verizon hands down has the BEST network. I have tracked and I well go into 10 gig. But I can't pay more. It's a ripoff for some people

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You just proved that it isn't solely the iPhone's fault.

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[WhoMe]

No offense, but people like you that use 10GB/month are the reason we have seen the end of unlimited data. It's not every iPhone user out there. Plenty of them don't use that much data. I realize the plan is unlimited and that is your right under the contract. That said, 10GB is pretty absurd (in my opinion) and that type of usage is why things are changing. I know that it's just my opinion and others disagree (as they have the right to), but please be real. If you are using 10GB you are part of the problem that has led to the changed plans.

I think your interpretting this wrong. Verizon didnt change the plans because they observed a crisis that surging data use created within thier network. They changed the plans because they saw an opportunity. They noted a change in user's behavior and raised the price on the service that the users are hungry for.

The heavy users are not the reason for this change...everyone who owns a smartphone is the reason. Everyone that WANTS a smartphone is the reason. Data is the draw, data is the value, so naturally as is the case with any product thats in demand...the price increased.

Voice and SMS have decreased in value and data has increased...its pretty simple. To call any amount of usage absurd....is absurd. They are using what they feel like using, what Verizon has allowed them to use under the terms of thier contract. Make no mistake, if Verizon wanted that to stop....they could and would individually stop them. Those contracts are so slippery they can get out of almost anything.

 

[mrpat67]

No offense, but people like you that use 10GB/month are the reason we have seen the end of unlimited data. It's not every iPhone user out there. Plenty of them don't use that much data. I realize the plan is unlimited and that is your right under the contract. That said, 10GB is pretty absurd (in my opinion) and that type of usage is why things are changing. I know that it's just my opinion and others disagree (as they have the right to), but please be real. If you are using 10GB you are part of the problem that has led to the changed plans.

How can you call 10 GB of data absurd? Some of us live in rural areas where wifi is virtually nonexistent. Some people prefer the speed of 4G over a wifi connection.
But most important is if VZW was really looking to curb data usage, they would not sell the phones with data heavy apps like netflix, Nfl mobile and more pre installed.
One last question. If your home ISP decided to limit you to 4GB per month, how long would you sit quietly by.
For the record I use about 15 GB a month on my line, and the other 5 lines use about 15 GB between them. All are unlimited.

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[Ry]

How can you call 10 GB of data absurd? Some of us live in rural areas where wifi is virtually nonexistent. Some people prefer the speed of 4G over a wifi connection.
But most important is if VZW was really looking to curb data usage, they would not sell the phones with data heavy apps like netflix, Nfl mobile and more pre installed.
One last question. If your home ISP decided to limit you to 4GB per month, how long would you sit quietly by.

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IMO, anyone that complains about this and stays with Verizon when their contract is up is "sitting quietly by".



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[mrpat67]

IMO, anyone that complains about this and stays with Verizon when their contract is up is "sitting quietly by".



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I would agree with that to a point. I have about 18 months to decide on that. Unfortunately where I live VZW is the only carrier with acceptable coverage.

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[TallyHo]

How can you call 10 GB of data absurd? Some of us live in rural areas where wifi is virtually nonexistent. Some people prefer the speed of 4G over a wifi connection.
But most important is if VZW was really looking to curb data usage, they would not sell the phones with data heavy apps like netflix, Nfl mobile and more pre installed.
One last question. If your home ISP decided to limit you to 4GB per month, how long would you sit quietly by.

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Like I said, it's my opinion.

I think it's absurd to use 10GB over your 4" (ish) phone.......yes. If you are using it as a WiFI hotspot then you should be paying for that service. You are telling me you live in an area that has 4G coverage but no cable or DSL available......I'm gonna call BS on that one.

I can't argue with you on the data hog apps. They could simply not allow them on the network.

If my home ISP decide to cap my usage then I guess I would pay for it. I don't expect things for free. Every company deserves to make a profit. If I think their profit margin is too high then I can go somewhere else for the service that they are providing. Point is, they can do whatever the hell they want. You don't like it, form your own company that provides the serivce. Its called capitlism buddy. Life aint' free. Sit quietly by????? Um you act like it's your right to get whatever you want......too many kiddos these days with that mentality. You want it......pay for it. Too expensive?......go somewhere else. Nowhere else to go?......looks like you pay up.

 

[mrpat67]

Like I said, it's my opinion.

I think it's absurd to use 10GB over your 4" (ish) phone.......yes. If you are using it as a WiFI hotspot then you should be paying for that service. You are telling me you live in an area that has 4G coverage but no cable or DSL available......I'm gonna call BS on that one.

I can't argue with you on the data hog apps. They could simply not allow them on the network.

If my home ISP decide to cap my usage then I guess I would pay for it. I don't expect things for free. Every company deserves to make a profit. If I think their profit margin is too high then I can go somewhere else for the service that they are providing. Point is, they can do whatever the hell they want. You don't like it, form your own company that provides the serivce. Its called capitlism buddy. Life aint' free. Sit quietly by????? Um you act like it's your right to get whatever you want......too many kiddos these days with that mentality. You want it......pay for it. Too expensive?......go somewhere else. Nowhere else to go?......looks like you pay up.

I think a bill way north of $400 would be called paying for it. But I have not argued the changes, I simply pointed out that your statement regarding data usage was silly in my opinion.
As for 4g with no cable or dsl, come to Southern Illinois. I will show you thousands of homes that 4g is their only option for high speed Internet.

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[Ry]

I would agree with that to a point. I have about 18 months to decide on that. Unfortunately where I live VZW is the only carrier with acceptable coverage.

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I'd also add that to those who say Verizon is their "only choice" and are also upset that Verizon is "advertising data intensive apps and that their data usage can only go up" aren't also assuming that other networks are trying to improve.


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[mrpat67]

I certainly would welcome a second option in terms of carriers. And I am not complaining about VZW in this thread. I was complaining about someone suggesting 10GB was considered a data hog.

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[TallyHo]

I think a bill way north of $400 would be called paying for it. But I have not argued the changes, I simply pointed out that your statement regarding data usage was silly in my opinion.
As for 4g with no cable or dsl, come to Southern Illinois. I will show you thousands of homes that 4g is their only option for high speed Internet.

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Point taken.

I'm actually from Southern Illinois originally. I guess that area does have quite a few places in the sticks that are close to interstates and such. They can always get satellite internet

 

[TallyHo]

I certainly would welcome a second option in terms of carriers. And I am not complaining about VZW in this thread. I was complaining about someone suggesting 10GB was considered a data hog.

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I explained further. If you are using your phone as your primary source for internet in your house, then 10GB is obviously not that much. The point is that you shouldn't be doing this unless you are paying for it. If all 10GB comes through the phones screen and not as a hotspot, then I think that you may need to rethink your personal life lol.....just saying.

In all seriousness, I can see how 10GB can be used pretty quickly, but the point is that people shouldn't be upset when VZW starts making them pay for what they use. Smartphone and data networks were never intended to be used as your primary internet service. Those that do and stream movies and such slow down the network for everyone else. By making them pay more, that may curb their use to allow better access for everyone else. if it doesn't, at least in theory it gives VZW more money to upgrade networks (notice I said in theory).