TB DELAYS and (RUMORED) TECH ISSUES MIGHT DRIVE ME to iPHONE

best of luck on that decision. Promised features for a phone not being there are a real buzz kill-if this is how things go down with the thunderbolt. It's all up to you-but i choose not to utter anything positive bout the jobsphone-it works but it definitely is not the end all of smartphones.
 
Don't make the decision to go to the iPoop4. I had to try it myself, had it in my hands for all of 24hrs and returned it. Found a old moto droid on craigslist for $50 and couldn't be any happier for time being. And that's saying alot since I have had the droid, droid X, Fascinate, Droid2, than the ipoop4. But to each his own.
 
Don't make the decision to go to the iPoop4. I had to try it myself, had it in my hands for all of 24hrs and returned it. Found a old moto droid on craigslist for $50 and couldn't be any happier for time being. And that's saying alot since I have had the droid, droid X, Fascinate, Droid2, than the ipoop4. But to each his own.

i'm most interested in the opinions of those who have had both the iphone4 and android phones. i'm curious - what precisely did you not like about the iphone?
 
definitely considering trying out the iphone and seeing how it works for me. the whole "don't get the iphone 4 because the iphone 5 is in the immediate pipeline" argument doesn't hold much water for me because the same can be said for the thunderbolt or any other android device. there's always some kind of upgraded technology right around the corner. i'd have to reconcile my issues with the cult of steve jobs and everything "i" as well as figure out if the size will work for me in the long term. assuming the 'bolt gets released by early march i won't be making a decision til i can test them side by side.

I would say it's more accurate to say don't get the incredible because the thunderbolt is coming out.
 
The Thunderbolt and the Iphone are in completely different catagories. The only thing they have in common is the fact they make phone calls.
The Iphone is 3G, the thunderbolt is 4G.
The Iphone is a 3.5" screen, the Thunderbolt is a 4.3"
If you look at both, (I have both in my household) they are worlds apart.
If you want a large screen now, get the droid x, you won't have to wait.
 
@ shocka

The reason people aren't buying the iPhone4 is because it is way outdated compared to what is available right now (not down the road)

I've posted this before, but I'll toss it up here again since it's relevant. Someone made this chart that compares features of the iPhone4 vs the TB (follow the link then click the image to make it larger - the iPhone only wins 1 category out of over 30):

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Yep, my Evo beats an iPhone...(Wifey is getting a TB, so I'm lurking) I'm waiting for the Evo 2 to come out before I switch anything.
 
@ shocka

The reason people aren't buying the iPhone4 is because it is way outdated compared to what is available right now (not down the road)
I've posted this before, but I'll toss it up here again since it's relevant. Someone made this chart that compares features of the iPhone4 vs the TB (follow the link then click the image to make it larger - the iPhone only wins 1 category out of over 30):

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Its ignorant (and fanboy-ish) to say that its outdated compared to what's available, because it isn't. It is still one of the best handsets on the market, despite its deficiencies.

Oh, and that list is laughable. The categories are tailor-made to make the TB look better, especially because it references 'features' that aren't available on a majority of handsets. Using the same standards that were used to make that list, I could make a similar list that would give the iPhone an overwhelming win. (and that's ignoring some categories that are just plain incorrect)

The TB and iPhone are for two different types of customers. The TB caters more to the Evo type, while the iPhone caters to a much wider audience.
 
Its ignorant (and fanboy-ish) to say that its outdated compared to what's available, because it isn't. It is still one of the best handsets on the market, despite its deficiencies.

Oh, and that list is laughable. The categories are tailor-made to make the TB look better, especially because it references 'features' that aren't available on a majority of handsets. Using the same standards that were used to make that list, I could make a similar list that would give the iPhone an overwhelming win. (and that's ignoring some categories that are just plain incorrect)

The TB and iPhone are for two different types of customers. The TB caters more to the Evo type, while the iPhone caters to a much wider audience.

Whoa, settle down there junior. I didn't make that list, just posted it for the peeps here to see :) Please don't call people names (like "ignorant")

Comparing specs like screen size, RAM, cameras, network, and bluetooth are not "tailor-made" to fit the TB - those are core specs

Furthermore, the fact that the TB has, as you say, "features that aren't available on a majority of handsets" are precisely what makes the TB such a great and advanced device. They are perfectly valid arguments for projecting the appeal of the TB

I respect your opinion, and you're welcome to put a similar list together of features where the iPhone wins in order to back up and verify your argument - especially since you seem to suggest it would be easy to do

Nothin but love; Cheers, mate! ;)
 
That list is comparing a device that exists to a device that was announced. It's not quite fair really.

However, if I could wait to get my next phone and wasn't in the position of needing something right away, I'd wait...indefinitely really since the need isn't there. I'd get whatever's most current at the time I needed it.
 
Whoa, settle down there junior. I didn't make that list, just posted it for the peeps here to see :) Please don't call people names (like "ignorant")

Comparing specs like screen size, RAM, cameras, network, and bluetooth are not "tailor-made" to fit the TB - those are core specs

Furthermore, the fact that the TB has, as you say, "features that aren't available on a majority of handsets" are precisely what makes the TB such a great and advanced device. They are perfectly valid arguments for projecting the appeal of the TB

I respect your opinion, and you're welcome to put a similar list together of features where the iPhone wins in order to back up and verify your argument - especially since you seem to suggest it would be easy to do

Nothin but love; Cheers, mate! ;)

For one; the person that wrote it is, in some cases, allowing for features that come through a market app, and then not allowing the same for an iPhone appstore app. Then there's purely subjective things, like RAM. Yes, the TB has more, but is that really a win for the TB considering that iOS may not need as much? I mean, you're comparing two disparate operating systems that function very differently.

Here's a short list of things it got wrong:

-Simultaneous voice/data should be a draw, because the TB can only do that 4G, which is not widely available. (and, if an iPhone user wants it, they can get it on AT&T)
-RAM-again, you're comparing two OSes, and more RAM isn't always better.
-Screen size is purely subjective.
-LED flash is purely subjective as well. Two doesn't mean the TB is better.
-The iPhone does video calling over 3G. Like the TB, it uses Skype to do so.
-Removable battery is subjective.
-Free turn by turn is not true either. You can get a free turn by turn app in the appstore.
-Universal USB is a non-factor. If you include that, you should include a category that includes the number of ready made accessories for anything with a dock connector for the iPhone. That, and Apple is releasing a microUSB dock adapter.
-Mobile hotspot? Really? That 8 devices is LTE only. That should be a draw.
-Cloud syncing is available for the iPhone. In fact, you can do it with your Google account, but you can also get MobileMe.
-Widget support is subjective. The TB having it doesn't make it a winner, just like the iPhone not having it doesn't make it a loser. Again, this is the dual OS thing; you're talking about two OSes with two different UX paradigms.
-Multitasking is subjective too; Power users will notice it (maybe), but 99% of users will think that they're the same.
-They really gave the market the win in that category? Really?!? I mean, get real. This alone betrays this list for what it is.
-Speaker remains to be seen. The HTC Surround had a Dolby speaker too and it was garbage. HTC doesn't exactly have a great record with their external speakers, so this category should be a draw.
-Kickstand? That shouldn't even be included.
 
For one; the person that wrote it is, in some cases, allowing for features that come through a market app, and then not allowing the same for an iPhone appstore app...

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Fair enough. I don't intend to start a flame war so I'll just leave the debate at that. Your point is valid; many comparisons can be subjective between phones :D

Also, as for simultaneous data and voice, the TB can actually do them both at the same time over 3G, as well:

HTC Thunderbolt might be getting simultaneous voice and data on 3G after all -- Engadget

http://phandroid.com/2011/01/26/simultaneous-voice-and-data-over-3g-confirmed-for-htc-thunderbolt/

The TB uses an SVDO radio as opposed to EVDO so it is able to surf/update widgets/tether/stream navigation data/etc while the user is on the phone at the same time. But curiously, Verizon has explicitly told their staff not to advertise this issue since it's a "fluke" and a "one time thing", more or less

Granted, the iPhone can do this on other GSM networks already, but the Verizon iPhone can't since it's tied to an EVDO CDMA radio, which (I assume) is why the author of that comparison threw that in there
 

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