The iPhone SE 2020 basically just killed the Pixel 4a and other value flagships...

[Morty2264]

Makes you hungry

Pretty much!

 

[MoreDef]

There's an article on this site that basically says the new iPhone can function as an Android phone in the sense that it can basically run all the Google apps pretty well.

I wonder how satisfying it would be to run nothing but Google apps on an iPhone. I mean, the apps would get updates for as long as the phone got updates, essentially meaning you got a phone with Google/Android updates for 5+ years.

Yes, it wouldn't have the customization of an Android, but to be honest, when I see folks post their homescreen setups for their pixels, I don't see much variety, say for a widget here or there.

Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud.

 

[Ry]

There's an article on this site that basically says the new iPhone can function as an Android phone in the sense that it can basically run all the Google apps pretty well.

I wonder how satisfying it would be to run nothing but Google apps on an iPhone. I mean, the apps would get updates for as long as the phone got updates, essentially meaning you got a phone with Google/Android updates for 5+ years.

Yes, it wouldn't have the customization of an Android, but to be honest, when I see folks post their homescreen setups for their pixels, I don't see much variety, say for a widget here or there.

Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud.

I do this.

I switched from always using a Motorola to going back and forth between a Moto Z4 and an iPhone XR because of work.

 

[MoreDef]

I mean, I basically did that back when I had an iPhone 3G, but with that a13 bionic, I'm imagining what it would be like to put all the apple apps in a folder (because you can't hide them away) and just have a boring grid of nothing but Google apps...and no widgets.

It would be like the Tim Duncan of Android phones.

 

[cbreze]

I also did this with my iPhone 7 and will also do it with my SE when it gets here. I think it's the best of both actually. The SE should run better than my 7 did.
There comes a time when I've tried every variation and launcher on my Pixel and and it can get old actually after a while constantly messing with it. In any case I'm looking forward to a spin on my new iPhone soon. I will have all my familiar Google apps. Also, there is the widget page to the left of the home screen which is actually kind of nice. It is out of the way and comes into view with a swipe and doesn't clutter up the screen. Another big bonus of the SE for me will be the size. I'm not a fan of big a$$ phones.
iOS 14 releases next month and after a couple of betas I'll probably check it out. I'm hearing that the app grid will have options. Possibly an app list that could maybe be hidden which would be a stretch for Apple as it goes against their grid set up. The new Android OS is quite ho-hum at the moment, not sure where they're going with it.

 

[Morty2264]

I also did this with my iPhone 7 and will also do it with my SE when it gets here. I think it's the best of both actually. The SE should run better than my 7 did.
There comes a time when I've tried every variation and launcher on my Pixel and and it can get old actually after a while constantly messing with it. In any case I'm looking forward to a spin on my new iPhone soon. I will have all my familiar Google apps. Also, there is the widget page to the left of the home screen which is actually kind of nice. It is out of the way and comes into view with a swipe and doesn't clutter up the screen. Another big bonus of the SE for me will be the size. I'm not a fan of big a$$ phones.
iOS 14 releases next month and after a couple of betas I'll probably check it out. I'm hearing that the app grid will have options. Possibly an app list that could maybe be hidden which would be a stretch for Apple as it goes against their grid set up. The new Android OS is quite ho-hum at the moment, not sure where they're going with it.

It does seem like the best of both worlds! That widget page kind of sounds like the Edge screen on the S10 line. That's pretty cool!

 

[bembol]

There's an article on this site that basically says the new iPhone can function as an Android phone in the sense that it can basically run all the Google apps pretty well.

I wonder how satisfying it would be to run nothing but Google apps on an iPhone. I mean, the apps would get updates for as long as the phone got updates, essentially meaning you got a phone with Google/Android updates for 5+ years.

Yes, it wouldn't have the customization of an Android, but to be honest, when I see folks post their homescreen setups for their pixels, I don't see much variety, say for a widget here or there.

Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud.

That's the advantage Apple has and I think many don't realize that.

I have ACCESS to my Google Play PURCHASES on my iPhone XR and 70% on my apps are Google. I can't say that on my Huawei P30 Pro. It took Apple years just to make their music purchases DRM free. If they did this as well for their movies & tv shows, I would stick with android.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Mac/OS and the iPhone hence why I own both.

 

[Gray Area]

Hilarious

I mean, I basically did that back when I had an iPhone 3G, but with that a13 bionic, I'm imagining what it would be like to put all the apple apps in a folder (because you can't hide them away) and just have a boring grid of nothing but Google apps...and no widgets.

It would be like the Tim Duncan of Android phones.

 

[Golurk]

The Pixel 4a still has quite a few advantages if we assume that the leaks and rumours are correct. A much more modern design, a superior camera (especially in low-light), most likely a substantially better battery life as well as a higher resolution OLED display with a headphone jack are features many would gladly have instead of the fastest mobile processor, because chances are, unless you're a heavy mobile gamer, the Snapdragon 730 will work perfectly well and be fast enough for you. The biggest challenge is obviously Android vs iOS of course.

But I think people are overhyping the iPhone SE...just because Apple suddenly made a mid-range phone by placing a new processor in an iPhone 8 doesn't mean that all Android rivals are dead in the water...in fact quite the opposite. Now that there's more competition, hopefully we'll see brands like Samsung develop even better mid-range devices.

Edit: The iPhone SE's design, front/bezel wise, is exactly the same as the iPhone 8/7/6, which is a bigger version of the iPhone 5's front. That's a 5 year old design based on one that's 3 years older...

 

[vzwuser76]

The Pixel 4a still has quite a few advantages if we assume that the leaks and rumours are correct. A much more modern design, a superior camera (especially in low-light), most likely a substantially better battery life as well as a higher resolution OLED display with a headphone jack are features many would gladly have instead of the fastest mobile processor, because chances are, unless you're a heavy mobile gamer, the Snapdragon 730 will work perfectly well and be fast enough for you. The biggest challenge is obviously Android vs iOS of course.

But I think people are overhyping the iPhone SE...just because Apple suddenly made a mid-range phone by placing a new processor in an iPhone 8 doesn't mean that all Android rivals are dead in the water...in fact quite the opposite. Now that there's more competition, hopefully we'll see brands like Samsung develop even better mid-range devices.

I agree, especially after reading some reviews of the SE. While it does have some compelling features, it's not the be all end all of mobile devices. It has drawbacks just like any device out there. Yes it has a low price, but IMHO, it just means that they could've been doing this all the time but wanted to keep milking people.

And I feel the same way about Android devices as well. Devices like the Pixel a series, Galaxy A series or the S10e, etc proves these companies can make affordable devices that address 90% of customers' needs. The problem is for a long time now they've been focusing almost the entire industry on the remaining 10%. Maybe now they'll put their focus where it needs to be on the majority of people.

I understand that flagship devices subsidize a lot of the tech that ends up in midrange devices a few years later, and that's fine. But that doesn't mean they need to push people into higher end devices. And I think with this pandemic and its effect on the economy the mobile industry is going to see more of a shift in demand for lower and midrange devices. It's showing people that they don't have as much discretionary income as they probably need to splurge on high end tech devices.

I always used to gravitate towards the higher end models in the past, but more and more it's not worth it. I've had each model of Pixel phone, but after the 3a was released last year, it just doesn't seem worth it to spend almost double for slightly better performance. And I do mean slightly since the difference is generally a second or two here and there. This is the first year since 2010 that I didn't upgrade my phone, as I'm waiting for the 4a to drop. Now I'll probably start upgrading to new Pixel a series models yearly, but at least it will only cost me half as much each year to do so.

 

[anon(50597)]

And I feel the same way about Android devices as well. Devices like the Pixel a series, Galaxy A series or the S10e, etc proves these companies can make affordable devices that address 90% of customers' needs. The problem is for a long time now they've been focusing almost the entire industry on the remaining 10%. Maybe now they'll put their focus where it needs to be on the majority of people.

I certainly hope so. Make 1 top of the line phone and the others can be low to mid range.

 

[vzwuser76]

I certainly hope so. Make 1 top of the line phone and the others can be low to mid range.

That's what I'm hoping for as well. Do one high end device each year, similar to what Google did with the Pixel 4. By that I mean use that device to introduce new tech that's in development (like Soli for example). They can use it to iron out the kinks and to work on a way to make integration into midrange devices more affordable.

Essentially their low and midrange devices would be for the masses, and their high-end devices would be test beds for bleeding edge tech, targeted at tech fanatics and possibly developers. Basically it would be the Nexus phone on steroids.

 

[the_boon]

The Pixel 4a still has quite a few advantages if we assume that the leaks and rumours are correct. A much more modern design, a superior camera (especially in low-light), most likely a substantially better battery life as well as a higher resolution OLED display with a headphone jack are features many would gladly have instead of the fastest mobile processor, because chances are, unless you're a heavy mobile gamer, the Snapdragon 730 will work perfectly well and be fast enough for you. The biggest challenge is obviously Android vs iOS of course.

But I think people are overhyping the iPhone SE...just because Apple suddenly made a mid-range phone by placing a new processor in an iPhone 8 doesn't mean that all Android rivals are dead in the water...in fact quite the opposite. Now that there's more competition, hopefully we'll see brands like Samsung develop even better mid-range devices.

Edit: The iPhone SE's design, front/bezel wise, is exactly the same as the iPhone 8/7/6, which is a bigger version of the iPhone 5's front. That's a 5 year old design based on one that's 3 years older...

This!

And if one is the type to game so heavy that a SD730 isn't powerful enough, then a Pixel isn't what he/she would want anyways. You'd be better served with one of those giant OnePlus or ROG phones for that kind of use.

 

[anon(50597)]

The Pixel 4a still has quite a few advantages if we assume that the leaks and rumours are correct. A much more modern design, a superior camera (especially in low-light), most likely a substantially better battery life as well as a higher resolution OLED display with a headphone jack are features many would gladly have instead of the fastest mobile processor, because chances are, unless you're a heavy mobile gamer, the Snapdragon 730 will work perfectly well and be fast enough for you. The biggest challenge is obviously Android vs iOS of course.

But I think people are overhyping the iPhone SE...just because Apple suddenly made a mid-range phone by placing a new processor in an iPhone 8 doesn't mean that all Android rivals are dead in the water...in fact quite the opposite. Now that there's more competition, hopefully we'll see brands like Samsung develop even better mid-range devices.

Edit: The iPhone SE's design, front/bezel wise, is exactly the same as the iPhone 8/7/6, which is a bigger version of the iPhone 5's front. That's a 5 year old design based on one that's 3 years older...

I agree that the 4a has its own advantages. One is not necessarily better than the other but both give consumers an excellent experience without draining the bank.

 

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Here's what I think about the iPhone se 2020. Take your current older iPhone, (in my case a iPhone 7), update to ios 13.4.1 and slap a red vinyl on it and then a case. Boom iPhone se 2020 just having fun... But I did it!

 

[Morty2264]

Here's what I think about the iPhone se 2020. Take your current older iPhone, (in my case a iPhone 7), update to ios 13.4.1 and slap a red vinyl on it and then a case. Boom iPhone se 2020 just having fun... But I did it! View attachment 319886View attachment 319887

I love the red!

 

[Gray Area]

Thanks, and the iPhone se 2020 red version doesn't have red in the front, just the back. I think if u gonna have big Ole bezels accent them and own it

I love the red!

 

[Morty2264]

Thanks, and the iPhone se 2020 red version doesn't have red in the front, just the back. I think if u gonna have big Ole bezels accent them and own it

Absolutely! I'd like the red to encompass all of the phone, including the bezels. I do miss bezels sometimes...

 

[the_boon]

Absolutely! I'd like the red to encompass all of the phone, including the bezels. I do miss bezels sometimes...

Maybe dbrand offers a front bezel skin for the iPhone 6/6S/7/8/SE2020

It wouldn't be shiny red like the back though.

 

[Gray Area]

Maybe dbrand offers a front bezel skin for the iPhone 6/6S/7/8/SE2020

It wouldn't be shiny red like the back though.

yes they do!