Thinking about trading my Note 8 for a Pixel 2 XL

[Scottie15]

I would keep the Note 8 and port the Pixel's camera.... The best of both worlds.

I'm sure this is well-known, but the Pixel camera has been ported to the Note 8. Been using both camera apps successfully.

 

[zipro]

I've had both phones and I consider the note 8 a better device. Yes, the P2XL has a slightly better camera. However, audio recorded in videos is in mono and is very unimpressive. Also you lose the ability to apply themes, wireless charging, edge apps, the spen, slightly larger screen, MUCH better screen, tons of software features, and the note just looks better.

Honestly, my P2XL had a terrible screen.

But you gain the ability to get the August security update in August and not in January.

 

[torbach1]

But you gain the ability to get the August security update in August and not in January.

That's the main reason I'm looking at switching. Although so far, Samsung/T-Mobile have been relatively decent with their security updates for the Note 8. They still left KRACK unfixed for over a month. They keep promising to improve in this area, but it's hard to believe they really are until I see it months in a row.

 

[Umbrokhan]

security update there's hardly no new feature, just small fix, and protect from malware, virus.
stock android major updates just copy Samsung features.
there's nothing to be excited about?
few years ago it was a different story. seem's like smart-phone are hitting they limits
similar what happened to intel CPU, and PC market

 

[Kayza]

Save the hassle and buy a £20 photography book.
The weak point is usually behind the lens, even with a cell phone.

Well, one of the strengths of the Pixel seems to be how much it does for you in that respect. Obviously, there is a limit, but for a lot of people, it's enough.

 

[j_hansen]

But you gain the ability to get the August security update in August and not in January.

if that is crucial to you, then just flash latest firmware the minute it is out, I agree that you shouldn't have to, but it is an option, I certainly wouldn't do a big downgrade over it

 

[AustinTech]

Do you use all those phones??

Not all at once. Couple of weeks with each, while keeping another Sim in my regular phone.

 

[AustinTech]

But you gain the ability to get the August security update in August and not in January.

I got my August security in September. So what? I work in cyber security for an international company with 6000 employees, most of whom are oblivious to any type of security updates. Zero of them have had a cyber breach through their phones. Zero.

 

[marcb11]

I got my August security in September. So what? I work in cyber security for an international company with 6000 employees, most of whom are oblivious to any type of security updates. Zero of them have had a cyber breach through their phones. Zero.

Wow for a security tech with that attitude I'd fire you. Late updates, users who are oblivious about the risks and because you THINK you have never had a breech then "so what"?

The point of timely and automatic updates is to stay ahead as much as possible of threats and to ensure users are protected despite their ignorance.

Late or never delivered updates put people at risk, whether they have had a breech or not, it doesn't change the risk, it is omnipresent and not a matter of if, but when.

A good security tech would be up in arms about ensuring the devices which have access to the network or contain company data are as up to date and protected as possible.

There is a reason the August update was published in August, saying so what in getting it a month late is just mind blowing for someone in your position.

Late or skipped security updates are unacceptable on any platform, to accept such as a cyber tech screams ineptitude.

 

[Almeuit]

I got my August security in September. So what? I work in cyber security for an international company with 6000 employees, most of whom are oblivious to any type of security updates. Zero of them have had a cyber breach through their phones. Zero.

I bet the guy as Experian said "SO what? it is just a security patch that all other websites installed so we don't really need to" ... Now look what happened .

Not saying there is something as critical on our phones but just saying not installing fixed / updates / patches for things like KRACK and other things isn't a "So what" for many people. For some it is... great for them ... but I would like things patched up .

 

[Aquila]

I work in cyber security for an international company with 6000 employees, most of whom are oblivious to any type of security updates.

If you're in charge of their cyber security, their job is to remain oblivious while your job is to make sure all devices are as current as possible with defenses against all manner of known threats and most hypothetical ones. I'm not saying you have to like the Pixel, but if you're not interested in Google phones and are interested in security, then only the iPhone is up to snuff as an alternative. And even then, only if updates are applied asap.

 

[torbach1]

I posted this on another similar thread. Replaced my October production date XL 2 for a late November production date one today (still within the 14 day return period), and there is a significant difference in screen quality and also in haptic feedback quality. I'm probably going to stick to the XL 2 now and sell my Note due to the security updates, and this XL 2 is just in another league. It rocks.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Here are my 2 cents.

Do you use literally everything the Note has? The Samsung features, the S Pen, the dual cameras and all of those?

This one question pretty much decides which phone is best.

I own the Note8 and I did use the Pixel 2 XL. Both were great but I went with the Note because I use almost everything it has on a daily basis and it has proven to be very useful for me. But if you don’t, then the Pixel is the better choice. Yes, the screen is a notch or 2 lower in overall quality but you get fast, direct updates, stereo speakers and less stuff that you may find unnecessary.

 

[Blues Fan]

Very good and very relevant question. In both cases, Blueborne, and KRACK, nothing has been reported. Because both of these attacks are so stealthy, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that—since they are now known attack methods—they have started being used without victims knowing that it’s happening.

I'd say that for the average individual, considering that an attacker has to be around 30 to 50ft away (longer for KRACK than Blueborne), it's not likely that you will be a victim of this. But if you are, you wouldn't know it, and anything you enter in your smartphone could be seen by the attacker. Since I feel like more of a target because I'm an exec at a cyber-security company, I am more cautious probably than others. Hackers like going after cyber-security companies to prove some point or other. So yeah, no need to panic...

I live in a town with a bunch of old and retired people. I doubt I really have to worry about this.

 

[torbach1]

I live in a town with a bunch of old and retired people. I doubt I really have to worry about this.

Yup, that's why I said that for the average person this likely isn't a concern. But the trend of companies looking for holes, finding them, and then releasing them before vendors tied to Google have time to resolve them is continuing and worrying.

 

[zipro]

Took the plunge yesterday and got a Pixel 2 XL. Honestly, if you don't need the S-Pen or the Samsung enhancements I'd say it's worth switching to. The pixel feels drastically faster and gets the updates when they're released, feels lighter and better in the hand. Screen isn't the best but it's nowhere near as bad as it was initially made out to be. It's arguably also sturdier as it has a metal back

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Screen isn't the best but it's nowhere near as bad as it was initially made out to be. It's arguably also sturdier as it has a metal back

Current batch is significantly better than the first ones

 

[zipro]

Current batch is significantly better than the first ones

yeah, can't speak for older batches - I suppose mine was manufactured recently.

 

[SugarMouth]

Don't do it. Just finished returning my P2XL this morning and repurchasing another Note 8.

Haha, funny you say that. I just returned my XL after pulling it out of the box and seeing the awful blue tint at any angle but straight on.

 

[torbach1]

I posted this on another similar thread. Replaced my October production date XL 2 for a late November production date one today (still within the 14 day return period), and there is a significant difference in screen quality and also in haptic feedback quality. I'm probably going to stick to the XL 2 now and sell my Note due to the security updates, and this XL 2 is just in another league. It rocks.

Well, I guess it was too good to be true. This evening my newer production date XL2 developed a serious screen issue. It has a solid gray line across the screen with a slight indent on the right, and the top of the screen is completely messed up. This doesn't show in screenshots, so it's not a software issue. Glad I had not yet sold my Note 8.