Turned down iphone offer from T-mobile

[omniusovermind]

You obviously haven't gone from an LTE phone to a Nexus 4. It sucks. I had the g
GS2 Skyrocket on AT&T and the speeds were great. Then the phone broke and the nexus was my best option not being able to upgrade. And going back to AT&T 3G is painful.

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I guess it depends where you are LTE on my carrier which is Bell Canada in a large city its only pulling down about 7-10 megabytes per second faster average download than my Nexus 4 compared against an s3. That wasn't a big enough difference to give up the immediate updates and freedom from carrier ware and OEM skins

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[anon(5719825)]

According to Verizon, the iPhone accounts for 55% of smartphone sales for this past quarter. People are still buying them up. Half of those activations were the iPhone 5, the rest older iPhones such as the 4S and 4.

 

[Tall Mike 2145]

I am a very diplomatic person overall; however, I don't mind calling a spade a spade, particularly when willful blindness and ignorance are floating out there.

Everyone wants to say how stupid or ignorant or un-tech-saavy Apple customers are. That's really only been true, from what I've seen, since Apple became a social status symbol. Classically, Mac users have always been far more aware and functional and capable than their DOS- and Win3.1/Win95/Win98-using brethren.

In fact, the only truly savvy group (mind you I said "group" and not individuals) out there at present are Linux users, and even then there's plenty of fanboys there, too.

 

[planoman]

I am a very diplomatic person overall; however, I don't mind calling a spade a spade, particularly when willful blindness and ignorance are floating out there.

Everyone wants to say how stupid or ignorant or un-tech-saavy Apple customers are. That's really only been true, from what I've seen, since Apple became a social status symbol. Classically, Mac users have always been far more aware and functional and capable than their DOS- and Win3.1/Win95/Win98-using brethren.

In fact, the only truly savvy group (mind you I said "group" and not individuals) out there at present are Linux users, and even then there's plenty of fanboys there, too.

I would say that is generally true about iPhone. Getting lots of that now on the Nexus brands too since they are so inexpensive, unlocked and contract free plans are growing. I for one like that with my ipad. The backup restore function on icloud is superb. I mean it even saves your progress on games when your restore to a new device...that is simplicity!

and you do not need a credit card on to have an apple ID, use itunes or app store to rebut an earlier post. I enrolled a new iphone some months back and created a new Apple ID and did not have to put a credit card on file. After I created it, I redeemed an apple gift to use on that account.

 

[jhowle9475]

Is there an android forum that free from iPhone users and is purely android?

 

[omniusovermind]

Is there an android forum that free from iPhone users and is purely android?

In order of most to least iPhone references by forum members: Android Central, Phandroid, and XDA. XDA has the least because they actually have a policy of no iPhone discussions and it seems pretty strictly enforced

sent from pure android on tapatalk. carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all.

 

[anon5664829]

LTE isn't a factor for me either. Where my comments come from in the iPhone being a downgrade are from the fact that the Nexus 4 has NFC, Higher dpi screen resolution, Bigger screen, free of iTunes, Better apps, Better CPU, a front camera as good if not better than the rear camera on the iphone 5, gorilla glass, free of apple as a whole, unlocked GSM out of the box, common connectivity using a standard USB connector, cheaper accessories, no need to register a credit card to use the app store........ Should I continue!!!!! I actually went to the store to look at one and held my N4 next to the iphone. My N4 has a longer and wider screen. In essence, all that I mentioned I would have lost going to the iphone. If you think that I have no experience with the iphone, your wrong, at one time I owned an iphone 3g on AT&T. After 6 months with it, it felt to me over rated so I paid out my contact and gave the phone away for free. I discovered a huge flaw with it right away when I deployed to Afghanistan and took it with me. Keep in mind that I had all the international provisions, and 3G service on the base but the flaw came about the first time I tried use any app other that SMS. Any app I tried to open told me that it could not run because there was no connectivity to iTunes. Not even my contacts would open. This infuriated me because even app that I paid for like games wouldn't run because iTunes couldn't give them permission to run. It made me feel like under apple, they only wanted me to do what they wanted me to do and that was that. Luckily I had the fore sight to expect something like that happening and I brought the phone I used previously, a Samsung black jack 2. It gave me no issues, and everything ran like it should have. You could say that crapple gave a deadly blow the their chances at ever getting me to be a customer again.



As far as Apple Fan boys go, it nutts how these people pine away waiting for the next edition of apple products which always come with only slight improvements. In fact apples business model supports this because they design a product and plan for the life of this very device and how to keep it fresh. In the end, the ipod should be seen as an example of the. If you look at the ipod 1 through ipod 7, what really changes? a color cover, change the size slightly, the shape slightly. It wasn't until ipod 8 that finally a major difference came a long, a touch screen. It's proof positive that Apple likes to string its customers along like a bad girl friend. The iphone 5 is no different. They have only made small improvements from version to version and none are significantly different and they are roughly 3 years behind companies like Samsung and HTC is the technology department. I just don't see the fantasism is running out to buy the next apple product because in reality, it's the same as the one they already own. It ridiculous and retard.

I don't knock people, if they want to purchase crapple products. I just don't wanna be bashed because I gladly choose to buy into the stupid FAD associated with the little white Apple.

The iPhone does not need iTunes to be usable, when will this myth die? Same front facing camera, the iPhone 5 takes better pictures then the N4, THE iPHONE HAS GORILLA GLASS, Free of apple as a whole is a positive for you? sure hater.
Regarding the better cpu do you really thing a better CPU equals better performance? My N4 at times DOES stutter where my iPhone 5 does NOT. YOU DON'T NEED A CREDIT CARD TO USE THE APP STORE. Oh and no way does the N4 have better apps then the iPhone 5 most apps Ive used on my phone have really **** UI's.

Stop talking about products you know nothing about.

 

[anon5664829]

LTE isn't a factor for me either. Where my comments come from in the iPhone being a downgrade are from the fact that the Nexus 4 has NFC, Higher dpi screen resolution, Bigger screen, free of iTunes, Better apps, Better CPU, a front camera as good if not better than the rear camera on the iphone 5, gorilla glass, free of apple as a whole, unlocked GSM out of the box, common connectivity using a standard USB connector, cheaper accessories, no need to register a credit card to use the app store........ Should I continue!!!!! I actually went to the store to look at one and held my N4 next to the iphone. My N4 has a longer and wider screen. In essence, all that I mentioned I would have lost going to the iphone. If you think that I have no experience with the iphone, your wrong, at one time I owned an iphone 3g on AT&T. After 6 months with it, it felt to me over rated so I paid out my contact and gave the phone away for free. I discovered a huge flaw with it right away when I deployed to Afghanistan and took it with me. Keep in mind that I had all the international provisions, and 3G service on the base but the flaw came about the first time I tried use any app other that SMS. Any app I tried to open told me that it could not run because there was no connectivity to iTunes. Not even my contacts would open. This infuriated me because even app that I paid for like games wouldn't run because iTunes couldn't give them permission to run. It made me feel like under apple, they only wanted me to do what they wanted me to do and that was that. Luckily I had the fore sight to expect something like that happening and I brought the phone I used previously, a Samsung black jack 2. It gave me no issues, and everything ran like it should have. You could say that crapple gave a deadly blow the their chances at ever getting me to be a customer again.



As far as Apple Fan boys go, it nutts how these people pine away waiting for the next edition of apple products which always come with only slight improvements. In fact apples business model supports this because they design a product and plan for the life of this very device and how to keep it fresh. In the end, the ipod should be seen as an example of the. If you look at the ipod 1 through ipod 7, what really changes? a color cover, change the size slightly, the shape slightly. It wasn't until ipod 8 that finally a major difference came a long, a touch screen. It's proof positive that Apple likes to string its customers along like a bad girl friend. The iphone 5 is no different. They have only made small improvements from version to version and none are significantly different and they are roughly 3 years behind companies like Samsung and HTC is the technology department. I just don't see the fantasism is running out to buy the next apple product because in reality, it's the same as the one they already own. It ridiculous and retard.

I don't knock people, if they want to purchase crapple products. I just don't wanna be bashed because I gladly choose to buy into the stupid FAD associated with the little white Apple.

And every company makes incremental upgrades. Take a look at Samsung.

 

[anon5664829]

Is there an android forum that free from iPhone users and is purely android?

Good luck finding one. Some Android fanboys just want to bash Apple at anytime they can get.

 

[chestvrg]

The iPhone is a great device and it is what started it all in reference to multi touch devices. I like android and iPhone alike, don't take me for an Apple sheep, but the iPhone deserves respect.

 

[ryanr509]

The iPhone is a great device and it is what started it all in reference to multi touch devices. I like android and iPhone alike, don't take me for an Apple sheep, but the iPhone deserves respect.

Agreed give credit where credit is due. Apple has done and is doing great things. Some people like it some don't.

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[chestvrg]

Yes you have to give merits when it merits it. I have had Galaxy S2 before and loved them, and I wish I can have a Nexus4 to play around with the clean google experience. So I love both operating system, but if you look back in 2007, there was no android devices, although there was Palm OS and windows mobile but it was not the same experience.

In my view Apple took a big risk with the first iPhone and the inception of true multitouch gestures and gambled if whether a population was going to adopt this new idea.

If you can remember back then all touch screen devices required some sort of stylus but they did not have the type of type gestures that Apple brought to the geek table, which is what we all now enjoy in not only Apple devices but Androids and Windows phone as well.

 

[Tall Mike 2145]

I think the original iPhone (and generally the concept behind iOS) was much like the original Macintosh in 1984: creative people at Apple -- and yes, this obviously includes and indeed is centered around Steve Jobs -- put forth this idea, which they did not invent from scratch but which they refined very significantly, and hoped to attract people to it who felt it was an improvement over the experience they previously had.

I don't believe there's any way to argue that iOS is not superior to a dumbphone (or the in-betweeners) and, at least in terms of the UI, that it isn't more elegant than PalmOS or WindowsCE/Windows Mobile. In fact, if it weren't for Apple either dragging their feet with certain things (copy-n-paste; multi-tasking; 3rd party apps; ability to use iOS with other apps beyond iTunes; deliberate locking-down of the OS in various ways) I don't think we would see quite the vitriol and hatred by the rest of the tech community towards the iPhone. Of course, in a way, this also has fueled development efforts of both Android and the Android ecosystem.

One very good thing about Steve Jobs' biography is that the rest of the world got a chance to see exactly what sort of sawed-off b**tard he actually was, without anyone else having to invent anything or without the need for legends and rumors any more. We can now, quite analytically and objectively, state why we choose not to do business with Apple and thereby "feed the beast".

I remember sitting down in front of an original Macintosh (Mac 128) in 1985, and after just a couple minutes of playing around with one, I could see that this was the future of computer user interfaces, and the concept of consistency between applications would be the future of computing. People today might like to hate on Apple, or say "I would never buy an Apple product" but if I could possibly bring back the state of computer affairs -- as if by magic -- as they were in the 1980s, I can guarantee I would be able to kill the popularity of technology just about overnight.

 

[anon5664829]

I think the original iPhone (and generally the concept behind iOS) was much like the original Macintosh in 1984: creative people at Apple -- and yes, this obviously includes and indeed is centered around Steve Jobs -- put forth this idea, which they did not invent from scratch but which they refined very significantly, and hoped to attract people to it who felt it was an improvement over the experience they previously had.

I don't believe there's any way to argue that iOS is not superior to a dumbphone (or the in-betweeners) and, at least in terms of the UI, that it isn't more elegant than PalmOS or WindowsCE/Windows Mobile. In fact, if it weren't for Apple either dragging their feet with certain things (copy-n-paste; multi-tasking; 3rd party apps; ability to use iOS with other apps beyond iTunes; deliberate locking-down of the OS in various ways) I don't think we would see quite the vitriol and hatred by the rest of the tech community towards the iPhone. Of course, in a way, this also has fueled development efforts of both Android and the Android ecosystem.

One very good thing about Steve Jobs' biography is that the rest of the world got a chance to see exactly what sort of sawed-off b**tard he actually was, without anyone else having to invent anything or without the need for legends and rumors any more. We can now, quite analytically and objectively, state why we choose not to do business with Apple and thereby "feed the beast".

I remember sitting down in front of an original Macintosh (Mac 128) in 1985, and after just a couple minutes of playing around with one, I could see that this was the future of computer user interfaces, and the concept of consistency between applications would be the future of computing. People today might like to hate on Apple, or say "I would never buy an Apple product" but if I could possibly bring back the state of computer affairs -- as if by magic -- as they were in the 1980s, I can guarantee I would be able to kill the popularity of technology just about overnight.

I do "business" with apple every year with their iPads. I can give 2 ****s about the dead leader that used to run it. Oh and by the way. This years iOS is getting a major revamp so there.

 

[anon5664829]

I think the original iPhone (and generally the concept behind iOS) was much like the original Macintosh in 1984: creative people at Apple -- and yes, this obviously includes and indeed is centered around Steve Jobs -- put forth this idea, which they did not invent from scratch but which they refined very significantly, and hoped to attract people to it who felt it was an improvement over the experience they previously had.

I don't believe there's any way to argue that iOS is not superior to a dumbphone (or the in-betweeners) and, at least in terms of the UI, that it isn't more elegant than PalmOS or WindowsCE/Windows Mobile. In fact, if it weren't for Apple either dragging their feet with certain things (copy-n-paste; multi-tasking; 3rd party apps; ability to use iOS with other apps beyond iTunes; deliberate locking-down of the OS in various ways) I don't think we would see quite the vitriol and hatred by the rest of the tech community towards the iPhone. Of course, in a way, this also has fueled development efforts of both Android and the Android ecosystem.

One very good thing about Steve Jobs' biography is that the rest of the world got a chance to see exactly what sort of sawed-off b**tard he actually was, without anyone else having to invent anything or without the need for legends and rumors any more. We can now, quite analytically and objectively, state why we choose not to do business with Apple and thereby "feed the beast".

I remember sitting down in front of an original Macintosh (Mac 128) in 1985, and after just a couple minutes of playing around with one, I could see that this was the future of computer user interfaces, and the concept of consistency between applications would be the future of computing. People today might like to hate on Apple, or say "I would never buy an Apple product" but if I could possibly bring back the state of computer affairs -- as if by magic -- as they were in the 1980s, I can guarantee I would be able to kill the popularity of technology just about overnight.

I would like to also mention the iPhone does everything we actually need smart phones for.
It can text, it can call, you can surf the web watch YouTube, check emails, has a voice assistant, App Store etc.

I don't understand why it's "locked down"

 

[anon(5719825)]

I would like to also mention the iPhone does everything we actually need smart phones for.
It can text, it can call, you can surf the web watch YouTube, check emails, has a voice assistant, App Store etc.

I don't understand why it's "locked down"

Bluetooth is one example. I can't send my entire contacts list or pictures to an iPhone like I can with my N4 to another Android. The iPhone also can't accept files through BT from my computer like other phones can.