Will Windows Phone take over?

[jerryjerryjerry]

I don't know how old you are, so I don't know if you were into computers back in the 80s and 90s.. But this has ALWAYS been Microsoft's strategy.

They are always talking up what's coming next as the big thing, how it will dominate everything, how it will destroy everything... They used to call that "vapor" (where "vaporware" came from), because the product isn't real yet, isn't out, can't be used, but the company still talks about it in hopes that potential users/customers will hold off on buying something now so that they can buy theirs instead.

And once the new one is out (and fails to impress or fails to live up to the hype), then they talk up their next version... Over and over and over. Windows 95.. 98.. ME.. XP.. Vista.. 7.. now 8...

Um.. every version of Windows you listed does "dominate" everything. They have something like 90% of the desktop OS market. How much does Google Chrome OS have again?

And that isn't called vaporware. Vaporware is something that never gets released, or that gets released so long after it was announced that everyone forgets about it and no one cares because the hype died out so long ago, like the Notion Adam, for example.

 

[jerryjerryjerry]

personally my second choice is android. I like google way more than microsoft. for multibillion dollar company google does not feel as evil as microsoft. so in short microsoft will not jump google in phone sales.

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Google doesn't feel as evil as Microsoft? Really?

Google is just much better at being sneaky. They give away free junk in exchange for running their tentacles up inside every orifice of your online life so they can profile you, sell your information and help other companies target market to you.

At least Microsoft is honest enough to ask for money for their product up front and then leave you alone.

Microsoft also managed to somehow miraculously come up with an original smartphone OS that doesn't look or act anything like the iPhone. Notice how they have no problems with Apple lawsuits over Windows Phone?

Google's whole "Don't be evil" mantra is a joke. They are as evil as any of the other companies. They don't truly support open-source, Android is pseudo-open source. Eric Schmidt sat on Apple's board for years just biding his time to steal ideas, then magically Android goes from looking like a reskinned Blackberry to looking just like an iPhone overnight.

People thing Google is this wonderful altruistic force for freedom, it's hilarious. They invent very little. They make all their money by gathering content created by other people's hard work and redistributing it to people, tracking every little thing you look at on the Internet to target ads at you, and now gathering up things that other companies invent and repackaging them as their own product.

 

[dwaynewilliams#WN]

^^^some valid points.


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[LegalAmerican]

Google doesn't feel as evil as Microsoft? Really?

Google is just much better at being sneaky. They give away free junk in exchange for running their tentacles up inside every orifice of your online life so they can profile you, sell your information and help other companies target market to you.

At least Microsoft is honest enough to ask for money for their product up front and then leave you alone.

Microsoft also managed to somehow miraculously come up with an original smartphone OS that doesn't look or act anything like the iPhone. Notice how they have no problems with Apple lawsuits over Windows Phone?

Google's whole "Don't be evil" mantra is a joke. They are as evil as any of the other companies. They don't truly support open-source, Android is pseudo-open source. Eric Schmidt sat on Apple's board for years just biding his time to steal ideas, then magically Android goes from looking like a reskinned Blackberry to looking just like an iPhone overnight.

People thing Google is this wonderful altruistic force for freedom, it's hilarious. They invent very little. They make all their money by gathering content created by other people's hard work and redistributing it to people, tracking every little thing you look at on the Internet to target ads at you, and now gathering up things that other companies invent and repackaging them as their own product.

Please. Take a breath and sit down. Sure Google has some shady tactics like anyone else, but stop trying to demonize them by regurgitating Steve Jobs' complaints. Apple pretends like they invented the wheel and everyone knows they swiped ideas to build their foundation too. At least Google takes an idea and elevates it into something logical and effective! Apple steals ideas and then sues the company they stole it from!

Everyone just needs to put their best product on the market and move forward. Let the chips fall where they may.

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[TechFitGJ]

No way. They will definitely grow but they will not "take over". It's a nice OS though, used the Lumia 900 for about a month but it just can't compete and it's locked down.

 

[AKA Preluva]

Not right away but over time it will claim the top spot. I've never cared for cRapple and I think they've gone as high as they can go, folks are getting tired of it. I just flat out hate Google; can't really say why but I just don't like them. OS open or closed is meaningless to me, I'm an end user so I don't want to fool around with customizing everything. I just want it to work right out of the box! I think MS allows for enough customizing so it's not a big deal. If it's lacking a feature the odds are it will have it in the next version so no worries there either. I am considering trying hemroid... err Android only because I want a ASUS PadFone 2. If ASUS makes a WP8 version PadFone then I'll go with that.

 

[vernotzy21]

As soon as wp uses the Intel processor instead of arm and can run PC software it won't come close.....well for power users anyway

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[Shilohcane]

Windows will never be the over all leaders of phones. However Windows Phones may take over Blackberry's segment of the market and put Blackberry out of business for good since they both are targeting the same type of users that primarily use their phones for work. As a salesman that traveled the country selling IBM, If you could pack proper desktop x86 performance into a handset, well, your only limitation becomes the screen size and no one wants to lug around laptop bags. Also, WP could attract fans of Xbox games with phones like this. Intel Atom Windows 8 smartphones on horizon - SlashGear

 

[casaout]

Good question. I don't think it will take over Android anytime soon. But it has potential. It already overtook iOS in 29 markets. And it is here for longer Only time will tell.

 

[A895]

Nope. For some unknown reason, Microsoft does not seem so committed for the next 2-3 yrs. I honestly think if Threshold does not push phones, they may drop it by 2016 or 2017. You can only throw money at a situation for so long.

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[SneakyBox]

Nope. For some unknown reason, Microsoft does not seem so committed for the next 2-3 yrs. I honestly think if Threshold does not push phones, they may drop it by 2016 or 2017. You can only throw money at a situation for so long.

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But Microsoft have bought Nokia for a reason. I think they will not drop WP.

 

[A895]

But Microsoft have bought Nokia for a reason. I think they will not drop WP.

We will see.

 

[Aqsaldan]

Microsoft will not stop until WP becomes the market leader.

 

[A895]

Microsoft will not stop until WP becomes the market leader.

That won't happen. And even hypothetically it does, what then? Do you want WP to be like Android? Ubiquitous everywhere or do you want it to be like iOS, large enough to never be ignored and making a lot of money?


From what I have ever seen, most people who choose WP, intentionally try to be different for the sole reason WP isn't iOS or Android. Being different won't be a valid reason if adoption ever picks up.

 

[ronstoney]

It's going to be tough for Windows Phone to take over (anytime soon) since it's fair to say they're pretty far behind in terms mobile phone innovation - it dials, has a touch screen... not going to be enough. They're going to have to continue to compete with apps on other platforms... Microsoft solutions have always been business oriented and most MS developers are building business applications at their jobs... so... I believe there needs to be a push for more business folks to build new/better/custom/in-house apps for their businesses, not necessarily for the masses.

Just a thought


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[chmun77]

The market shares for Windows Phone dropped further again. Soon it will be like another KIN project. RIP Windows Phone.

 

[Geodude074]

Lol this thread is almost three years old!

At the beginning of this thread people were saying "Not yet, but Windows Phone will slowly take over in the upcoming years." Well it's been three years and Windows Phone has been losing market share lol it's not going anywhere.

Goodbye Felicia!

 

[osallent]

I just returned Android from WP. Windows Phone users number is growing, its just that Android is growing faster, and thus the decrease in WP market share...but there are more WP users than ever.

It is a beautiful UI, but the OS is still too immature compared to the others. It's closed the maturity gap substantially with WP 8.1, but still has a long way to go. Maybe Windows 10 will do the trick. We'll find out in mid 2015.

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[salmanahmad]

People I think we can all sleep at night peacefully knowing that if Windows Phone hasn't thrived in 4 years it's not extremely likely Windows 10 will do much to resolve that.

The OS is still less functional, and after Android 5.0 it is also way less beautiful. Oh and need I say anything about the apps?

 

[Geodude074]

The inherent flaws with WP8 is that it has all of the limitations of iOS, but none of the app support to make up for it. It's basically a crippled iOS with a different UI.

In the beginning, Android didn't have the app support of iOS either. But how it differed was the free reign it gave you to your files, and it allowed customization like widgets/rooting/launchers/custom ROMs etc.

WP8 has none of that. It has nothing going for it compared to iOS or Android.