Bionic's still coming, is defintely new hardware - XT875

[delco714]

If you are working that much you are over 18 other wise someone it's extending the truth! Move out or man up.

 

[Jasper]

I don't know what universe you live in or rare air you enjoy, but most high school kids I know don't have smartphones, just feature phones at best. They'd kill for a smartphone. Books, clothes and school supplies are a given. Dude, do you even HAVE kids? I rather thought by your avatar you did, but you don't talk like it.

I thought it was his kid also or kinda looked like one of the characters from assasins creed (ps3 game). Anyway all the older highschool kids I know including my 14yr old sister have smartphones, mostly android. And no I don't live in a rich area.

 

[Castor Troy]

I don't know what universe you live in or rare air you enjoy, but most high school kids I know don't have smartphones, just feature phones at best. They'd kill for a smartphone. Books, clothes and school supplies are a given. Dude, do you even HAVE kids? I rather thought by your avatar you did, but you don't talk like it.

Going off to college is a huge deal. Kids get their parents to shell out more than most other times. They can make a case for a smartphone easily. And, as I previously stated, parents are more likely to give in if they can extract promises of update calls, etc. In fact, didn't all the i-gadgets successfully prove this concept multiple times?

Now that the obvious has been said. I can't tell you which Verizon phone they'll choose other than the fact the Bionic gains an advantage by being the latest and greatest and the new one being advertised at the time. Your original premise was that August was a stupid time to launch and the Bionic will still get creamed by the iPhone5. I think I've successfully repelled that argument.

I don't have kids no but one doesn't have to have to have high schoool age kids to know they all ( well most) already have feature AND smartphones. Most of them have smartphones by the way. Smartphones are very popular among high school kids. Most of the kids I see walking around here have smartphones. Even the middle schoool aged ones. You're simply out of touch with the younger generation Sharon

If you think in this economy that parents are going to be flipping for brand new phones for their kids you are not living in reality. College, as you know, is VERY expensive Sharon and a new shiny phone is last on the list. Shiny new smartphones are a luxury NOT a neccessity. If kids want the latest and greatest a majority will have to do what Shipwrestleer is doing, buying it on their own or keep what they have. Jonny aint getting a brand new phone because he makes a case for having it. If I was a parent I would say "Does your_insert smartphone here_work?" "Yes?" "Well use that one." He/she is in college now they get what they NEED not what they want.

I didn't say August was a stupid time to release it I said it was a bad time. No matter how much noise you make the fact remains that once the iPhone gets announced it's going to hurt sales of any devices launching around it.

I think I've successfully repelled that argument

 

[shipwrestler125]

Same here; I live in a small township 25 miles outside Pittsburgh...VERY middle income, and most of the hs kids I see are all texting on their smartphones - a few iphones, but mostly Android. You should be thankful that you have parents that make you work for what you want; in the end, you will appreciate it, I know I did.

I do appreciate it. I hate having to ask for money so therefore I only get things I truly need or can afford at the time. Pretty much all of my checks get deposited right to the bank so that way the cash doesnt burn a hole in my pocket lol.

 

[ShiZero]

We had an emergency situation at the end of last year that wasn't exactly planned for, so things got way out of hand lately. Next month things should get back to what they were before and my income should become icing on the cake and not a necessity for survival. My comment was meant more in a comic way though, lol.

 

[JSun]

Alright, here it goes for my first post on this forum. Check out the link below. Let's hope this rep knows what he/she is talking about.....

Verizon: 3G Owners Can Keep Unlimited Data on 4G after July 7th

 

[JagsfanJaxNH]

I gave her my best strategy for getting in on the grandfather clause since she currently has a feature phone. I told her to upgrade to any smartphone a couple days before the 7th and just exchange it for the Droid3 when it comes out (hopefully, within the 14 day window). Her mom pays for the service also.

I got further clarification from a Verizon rep on the phone tonight. She claims that as long as you have unlimited data on any phone, including a non-smart phone, that you will be grandfathered in. The reason they keep saying smart phone is because most feature phone customers do not have unlimited data. I asked her 5 different times, 5 different ways and it was the same answer each way. She claimed I was ok because I had added unlimited data on my flip phone last week.

I'm not holding my breathe, but we will see...

 

[shipwrestler125]

I got further clarification from a Verizon rep on the phone tonight. She claims that as long as you have unlimited data on any phone, including a non-smart phone, that you will be grandfathered in. The reason they keep saying smart phone is because most feature phone customers do not have unlimited data. I asked her 5 different times, 5 different ways and it was the same answer each way. She claimed I was ok because I had added unlimited data on my flip phone last week.

I'm not holding my breathe, but we will see...

That is opposite of what everything else said but good luck I hope they allow you to keep ur unlimited when you upgrade.

 

[robrecht]

I got further clarification from a Verizon rep on the phone tonight. She claims that as long as you have unlimited data on any phone, including a non-smart phone, that you will be grandfathered in. The reason they keep saying smart phone is because most feature phone customers do not have unlimited data. I asked her 5 different times, 5 different ways and it was the same answer each way. She claimed I was ok because I had added unlimited data on my flip phone last week.

I'm not holding my breathe, but we will see...

Ask a rep to annotate your account with that info and make a note of the the name and time. Even if the rep is mistaken, Verizon should honor that.

Thanks, Robrecht

 

[bworley50]

We had an emergency situation at the end of last year that wasn't exactly planned for, so things got way out of hand lately. Next month things should get back to what they were before and my income should become icing on the cake and not a necessity for survival. My comment was meant more in a comic way though, lol.

Good news.

 

[Friend-O]

Jonny aint getting a brand new phone because he makes a case for having it.

I know you came right out and said you don't have kids, but that ludicrous statement above would have proved it anyways, lol.

 

[Oxn]

I don't have kids no but one doesn't have to have to have high schoool age kids to know they all ( well most) already have feature AND smartphones. Most of them have smartphones by the way. Smartphones are very popular among high school kids. Most of the kids I see walking around here have smartphones. Even the middle schoool aged ones. You're simply out of touch with the younger generation Sharon

If you think in this economy that parents are going to be flipping for brand new phones for their kids you are not living in reality. College, as you know, is VERY expensive Sharon and a new shiny phone is last on the list. Shiny new smartphones are a luxury NOT a neccessity. If kids want the latest and greatest a majority will have to do what Shipwrestleer is doing, buying it on their own or keep what they have. Jonny aint getting a brand new phone because he makes a case for having it. If I was a parent I would say "Does your_insert smartphone here_work?" "Yes?" "Well use that one." He/she is in college now they get what they NEED not what they want.

I didn't say August was a stupid time to release it I said it was a bad time. No matter how much noise you make the fact remains that once the iPhone gets announced it's going to hurt sales of any devices launching around it.

I think I've successfully repelled that argument

My cousins 10year old daughter has a iphone 4.

 

[robrecht]

My cousins 10year old daughter has a iphone 4.

One of my 9-year-old's best friends also has an iP4. His parents are divorced and his Dad gave it to him so they could keep in touch better and, truth be told, probably as a bribe for his affection. The Dad admits that it may not have been a good idea as the kid is kind of obsessed with the phone.

Thanks, Robrecht

 

[droidbio]

Have you been to a verizon corporate store?

The one near my house doesn't have 1 feature phone in the show room. The lame salesman tried to tell me that all of the kids are getting smartphones. I looked at him and said well my kids aren't. We went to Costco and bought my daughter a Samsung. Sch-u370 its a touch screen slider.

Verizon is not offering any decent feature phone so parents are buying smartphones.

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

 

[Oxn]

Have you been to a verizon corporate store?

The one near my house doesn't have 1 feature phone in the show room. The lame salesman tried to tell me that all of the kids are getting smartphones. I looked at him and said well my kids aren't. We went to Costco and bought my daughter a Samsung. Sch-u370 its a touch screen slider.

Verizon is not offering any decent feature phone so parents are buying smartphones.

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

How do you tell whcih stores are corporate?

But i think the one i went to is. They had only 4 featured phones on display.

 

[Raptor007]

Have you been to a verizon corporate store?

The one near my house doesn't have 1 feature phone in the show room. The lame salesman tried to tell me that all of the kids are getting smartphones. I looked at him and said well my kids aren't. We went to Costco and bought my daughter a Samsung. Sch-u370 its a touch screen slider.

Verizon is not offering any decent feature phone so parents are buying smartphones.

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

Kids do not need smartphones, feature phones are sufficient. They can have a smartphone when they pay for their data plans. Can you imagine what the data overages are going to be on smartphones that kids have after 7/7/11.

 

[Raptor007]

Good question, a lot of these non-corporate stores are doing their best to "look like" corporate stores in look and layout but if you look at the store name, especially in the mall you should notice something other than Verizon in the signage or partner in there somewhere.

 

[Nightmare717]

I'm not that new to this forum anymore, but I am still patiently waiting to truly join the Android community, as I'm still using a Crackberry Curve.

I'm starting to develop a lot of questions like:

What exactly are all of the "locked" things (like boot loader) mentioned, what are the pros and cons of hacking and what is "Pure Android"?

Best I can figure out, the Nexus is the only "Pure Android", correct? If not, what else is and still, what exactly does that mean? I see references to other Android phones that whatever they use is running ON TOP of Pure Android.

Does hacking into the [non-pure-android] phone and removing all of the "add-ons", make it Pure Android?

Are there any Pure Android phones available on Verizon? What have been/are/[known] will-be Pure Android phones?

Thanks!

 

[Asterdroid]

I'm not that new to this forum anymore, but I am still patiently waiting to truly join the Android community, as I'm still using a Crackberry Curve.

I'm starting to develop a lot of questions like:

What exactly are all of the "locked" things (like boot loader) mentioned, what are the pros and cons of hacking and what is "Pure Android"?

Best I can figure out, the Nexus is the only "Pure Android", correct? If not, what else is and still, what exactly does that mean? I see references to other Android phones that whatever they use is running ON TOP of Pure Android.

Does hacking into the [non-pure-android] phone and removing all of the "add-ons", make it Pure Android?

Are there any Pure Android phones available on Verizon? What have been/are/[known] will-be Pure Android phones?

Thanks!

Ok I'll do my best to answer these for you as clearly as I can. The best thing for you to do is start poking around and reading on XDA Development Forums if you're interested in hacking/rooting.

1. Locked Bootloader: This is in reference to rooting (gaining super user access, essentially hacking) the phone and installing custom version of Android on your phone. It's not impossible, but MUCH more difficult to do if the bootloader is encrypted (and therefore cannot be unlocked).

2. Most manufacturers have a skin that they apply on top of Android. Some people like them, some people don't. HTC has Sense, Motorola has MotoBlur/NinjaBlur, and Samsung has Touchwiz to name a few. Many people (myself included) don't like these skins because they tend to be resource hogs without adding much real value. That said, it's becoming less and less of an issue as android performance improves, and hardware performance improves as well.

The Nexus is the only real "Pure Android" (also called Vanilla) experience, however, if the device you purchase has good development support, it's possible that a vanilla version of android may be created for that phone.

3. Hacking or Rooting does indeed allow you to remove addons and "bloatware" (apps installed by carriers), but it doesn't always allow you to remove the custom skins as they are integrated into the OS.

4. No their aren't any "Pure Android" phone available on Verizon (none since the OG Droid anyway), however, if you purchase a phone with good development support, you'll more than likely be able to fix that yourself

 

[Castor Troy]

Asterdroid you forgot the Droid It's a pure Google Experience phone as well

edit: nevermind you mentioned it at end of post. Carry on!!