Droid 2.1 question?!

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You guys need to remember that the mass user for droid doesn't want to mess with bugs.. They want a phone that works and works well. I would say that only 10-20% of the owners of the moto droid are into forums, hacking, rooting and beta testing.. Relax and let the big boys do their jobs.. You will get your cake when they give it to you and not one moment sooner.
 
I hate being right....all those who doubted my knowledge. 2 months give or take a week be patient. ..lets separate ourselves from those crackberry zombies
 
Reality is nobody knows what the hold up is. 2.1 could and should be out for the Droid, yet it is not. Maybe they (Motorola) are holding back till the Nexus drops and updating then to compete. No point in releasing it now as the competition is on another carrier.
 
If you think this is flaming I'd hate to see how you would react to an actual argument.

The problem is everyone is overreacting to this. I'm not happy to have to wait BUT..I understand I have to. People are acting like because it wasn't released in the first month of the year that google, motorola and verizon hate Droid owners and think we don't matter. That's pretty ridiculous when they have said all along "first quarter 2010" which is 3 months.We're 34 days into the first quarter of 2010. Everybody is freaking out for no good reason and its frustrating seeing topics like this come up and kill off other good potential ones.

Bottom line is there are 2 option if you want 2.1. root it and do it yourself or wait till we get an OTA update.

OTA updates aren't about us becoming beta testers. Its about ensuring a quick and easy delivery method. I don't want to test a buggy 2.1 and have to wait on fixes like Nexus One users did.

I would watch your words if I were you. Thats all I'm going to say.
 
I would watch your words if I were you. Thats all I'm going to say.

What did I say that was offensive, mean or rude? Please point that out. If it was the first thing I said you took it the wrong way. This discussion has been pretty civilized in my opinion. If it wasn't the moderators would close the topic, or delete my posts and/or warn me.
 
Lets clean it up guys and stay on topic. If you disagree with someones post skip it and move on. I do it all the time.

Carry on.:D
 
lol,i gotta jump in on this...been awhile since i been on here, we ALL need to relax, we are turning into a buncha crackberry slugs. itll come, soon. i think we all have the best phone out there,and we arent having major issues. we have time. imo.
 
I think the reason why people (including myself) are getting frustrated is because there seems to be no reason for the delay.

When other OS' (BB in particular along with WinMo) have updates due, it takes much longer to prepare because of the different form factors, overlays, UIs etc that various devices on that platform have.

That's why the Sense UI Android users are a little more understanding. Because OBVIOUSLY it would take more time to custom design a UI to lay over a new version of the OS.

However, the Droid has the same screen resolution and 'vanilla android' UI as the Nexus One? So, why? At least HTC has commented and said they want to wait until they can get 2.1 and Sense running perfectly together before updating.

Why doesn't the Droid have 2.1?

Just because the screen resolution is the same doesn't mean that all the internals are identical. I'm guessing Motorola is busy optimizing 2.1 for the Droid before they release it.
 
It's because they are working on the multitouch and the droid wouldn't receive it before the Nexus. So once all of the Nexus's have been upgraded, I expect that we will be receiving it.
 
I personally think its a crock of **** that we havnt gotten any word or any love from them yet with our Droids.

Their bread an butter phone - The Nexus Ones got multitouch and all sorts of goodies in their recent update yet, we get left in the dark with no acknowledgment about our update. 2.0.1 was terrible in my opinion seing as how it fubared my phones speeds both with apps and more particularly - the browser speeds.

In all honesty, now that the Nexus ones out, I see the Droid getting a lack of attention from them. Sad seing as how much we paid for the damn device... Quite bull**** really.
 
Now that their bread -n- butter device is out - The Nexus One, The Droids taking a back seat with development.. Sad, and quite bull**** to be honest. Always ****in happens. But, for a device that got so much hype and was not cheap, this shouldnt happen...
 
Now that their bread -n- butter device is out - The Nexus One, The Droids taking a back seat with development.. Sad, and quite bull**** to be honest. Always ****in happens. But, for a device that got so much hype and was not cheap, this shouldnt happen...

Who's bread and butter device? HTC's?

I don't know what you are complaining about honestly the update was just a maintenance update. The Droid has already had a maintenance update. What next are you going to complain about how the device was released with 2.1 before 2.1 went public? Kinda like the Droid and 2.0? You really think this is all Google's doing?

Frist: We know that certain manufactures have had early access to Android code prior to it even being public. How do we know this?

  • HTC Hero 2.1 Rom in the wild.
  • Motorola Sholes 2.1 ROM in the wild.

So did these end up in the open BEFORE or AFTER Android 2.1 went public? I'll let you figure out the answer to that on your own.

Second: Android 2.1 is now public. Anyone can download it - even you - and modify it to run on whatever device you want. So theoretically even if Motorola was waiting on Google it's all in Motorola's hands now to port the Android 2.1 code to the Droid.
 
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Who's bread and butter device? HTC's?

I don't know what you are complaining about honestly the update was just a maintenance update. The Droid has already had a maintenance update. What next are you going to complain about how the device was released with 2.1 before 2.1 went public? Kinda like the Droid and 2.0? You really think this is all Google's doing?

Frist: We know that certain manufactures have had early access to Android code prior to it even being public. How do we know this?

  • HTC Hero 2.1 Rom in the wild.
  • Motorola Sholes 2.1 ROM in the wild.

So did these end up in the open BEFORE or AFTER Android 2.1 went public? I'll let you figure out the answer to that on your own.

Second: Android 2.1 is now public. Anyone can download it - even you - and modify it to run on whatever device you want. So theoretically even if Motorola was waiting on Google it's all in Motorola's hands now to port the Android 2.1 code to the Droid.

What Im saying is that when a "NEW" device releases, support for the previous "great" device/s goes out the ****ter. Its happened with every device on the market and if you think otherwise your wrong. Its how their business works.

As for rooting my device, well, Ive tried, MANY times and for some reason it doesnt want to work so importing 2.1 on my Droid is non-existant. I even had a buddy of mine try an do it since he has a Droid and worked for his. Still didnt work and he was pretty amazed that my device would except the root. So not sure what to tell ya...
 
What Im saying is that when a "NEW" device releases, support for the previous "great" device/s goes out the ****ter. Its happened with every device on the market and if you think otherwise your wrong. Its how their business works.

Indeed that is always true however that's not what you said or implied. Let's break it down:

"Now that their bread -n- butter device is out - The Nexus One. The Droids taking a back seat with development.. " implying that now that Google's bread and butter device is out that they (Google) are no longer developing for Motorola's Droid.

What I was trying to tell you is that MOTOROLA is responsible for all updates. Motorola has access to the source code, they have had access to the source code prior to the source code even being made public. I would be willing to bet a large sum of money that Motorola has been working with 2.1 and the Droid for a while. You are incorrectly blaming Google.

Why is it taking so long?

In CDMA land (Sprint and Verizon) and somewhat in GSM land (for carrier branded devices for example the MyTouch3g) typically before the manufacture even starts working on an update the carrier must first request it or accept the idea put forth by the manufacture. After the carrier requests it there is probably weeks worth of pure paper pushing before development even starts. How is the costs going to be shared, what's the update going to include, what's a good deadline for each company, how is going to be delivered, are we going to add branded apps, are we going to add this or subtract that etc etc etc. Okay so then they get the specifics ironed out now on to the real job - development.

Well phones are not standardized devices like home computers are. They just can't plop it on the device and expect it to run perfectly. The Android source is just a base - Motorola or any other device manufacture for that matter - must port the base to run on their hardware. In a nutshell they have to tell it how to communicate with the keyboard, with the screen, with the buttons on the front, with the microphone, with the speaker and so on. This is an overly simplified view - perhaps some of these components are standardized perhaps some are not. Then it comes down to software - they have to add certain modules (think the Verizon section in the market) maybe they need to remove other modules (think like the ability to freely tether or force roam etc).

During that process there is the whole "Why isn't this working right - it should be working right.....aaaaarrrrghhhhh" process that developers have to go through as just a pure fact of life. Get past that part then of course internal testing must be done to see how the "finished" product works. In some hypothetical fantasy land let's say the update passes it's "finished" product test. Well then it gets sent to Verizon and guess what....they have to test it. Now just imagine what happens when Verizon says "Oh Hai there is a bug" Now it's back to the developers who have to go through the whole "Why isn't this working right - it should be working right.....aaaaarrrrghhhhh" and "%*&# I changed this and now x works but y doesn't" process and the cycle continues.

As for rooting my device, well, Ive tried, MANY times and for some reason it doesnt want to work so importing 2.1 on my Droid is non-existant. I even had a buddy of mine try an do it since he has a Droid and worked for his. Still didnt work and he was pretty amazed that my device would except the root. So not sure what to tell ya...

Well you could root your device and put 2.1 on there but that's not what I was actually talking about. What I was saying is that the Android 2.1 source code is now public and open source. This means that if you had the ability and full knowledge of all the proprietary hardware aspects you could sit in your underwear at home and port 2.1 to the Droid. You could also hypothetically design your own hardware, purchase the components and download Android 2.1 and put it on your own device.

I was simply just trying to highlight the fact that Google is not holding up anyone at this point. Everyone with an internet connection has full and equal access to the source code needed to get it to run on any device. The ball is in the manufactures and carriers court.

*Some people claim that Google is playing games by telling manufactures that they "can't update *yet*" I call bull**** on this. Google is not into selling phones or OS's for that matter. Google's ultimate strategy with Android is to get it into as many hands as possible. People who use Google's services see Google's ads and after all what is Google? An advertisement firm.
 
Cool did you you hear the news 2.1 to be released sometime in Q1.
LOL I just had to do it

its a joke so don't take it to heart
 
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