Droid Bionic coming in September

While I agree, there's really been next to nothing as far as rumors/leaks on the GSII. It seems to be sown up tighter than the Bionic. However, the Samsung CEO did say August. And there's hope that it will. There's still time for it to release in August. It's only August 1.
The CEO did say August, but that doesn't mean Verizon will get it in August. I'm thinking it's possible we'll see it on Sprint or AT&T in August because we've already seen leaks for both of those carriers but nothing for Verizon yet.
 
I am actually a little happy that the SG2 is not coming out in August as it gives me a little hope that it will have LTE. While I still think that its a long shot and that most likely it will be a 3G device, if it were to be release in August than I would be 90% sure that its a 3G device by releasing a little later in the year it gives me hope that they are working on it and possibly making it a 4G device. :)
 
I am actually a little happy that the SG2 is not coming out in August as it gives me a little hope that it will have LTE. While I still think that its a long shot and that most likely it will be a 3G device, if it were to be release in August than I would be 90% sure that its a 3G device by releasing a little later in the year it gives me hope that they are working on it and possibly making it a 4G device. :)

My hope is since Samsung added Wimax to the Sprint version, Verizon wouldn't want their version to not have 4G on it.

I have until September 22nd for either the Bionic or the GSII to come out to be within my 90 return policy for Costco. From the rumors it sounds like the Bionic should be out by then, hopefully the GSII will also be out so I will have an option.
 
Wow, the new Blur is an abomination, yet, somehow, TouchWiz is not?? It's amazing how much hate is thrown at Blur vs. the other custom skins out there. Sense is almost universally praised and I actually prefer what I have seen of the latest Blur to it. Samsung somehow has managed to get praise for the latest version of TouchWiz after getting beaten up on the earlier versions almost as badly as Motorola did for Blur.
All custom skins are terrible. Where did I state that TouchWiz is any better than Blur?

The SGSII's bootloader is already unlocked and the phone already has major dev support. On day one I will be able to load up CM7 on the SGSII, while on the Bionic, I will be waiting for months to be able to load up a bloat-free AOSP ROM.

Blur sucks, TouchWiz sucks, pretty much every custom skin sucks (Sense only half-sucks) end of story. AOSP is better than every single one.
I have seen a lot of the reviewers of the Droid 3, grudgingly, say that the new Blur isn't all that bad, but I think most of them are afraid to say they like it because of the huge negative reaction it seems to incur from the masses of people that visit these forums/blogs.
Most people are saying that it's better than the old Blur, but it's still a custom skin. That **** needs to go.
 
Now it's August and still no confirmed specs for a confirmed September release.... wahwee whoawee..
Was checking HoFo this morning and saw this relevant post from Winston25 who is about a good a source as can ever be asked for:

Originally Posted by Ark6
Either this phone is Motorola's best kept secret

You just got spoiled by the massive amount of leaks for the Droid, than the Droid X, Devour, Atrix, etc.

Motorola's best kept secret? Not by a long shot. But a lot quieter than the original (Etna), well yeah a lot of those leaks must have been plugged.

So yeah, Motorola really locked themselves down. So, Motorola now has a month to generate some buzz - it is high time they start showing some leg on this darn thing!
 
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Good luck as with Samsung all carrier phones are different and maybe locked if carrier ask demands it. Also radios are different. So what works across the pond like roms and rooting may not work heree
All custom skins are terrible. Where did I state that TouchWiz is any better than Blur?

The SGSII's bootloader is already unlocked and the phone already has major dev support. On day one I will be able to load up CM7 on the SGSII, while on the Bionic, I will be waiting for months to be able to load up a bloat-free AOSP ROM.

Blur sucks, TouchWiz sucks, pretty much every custom skin sucks (Sense only half-sucks) end of story. AOSP is better than every single one.

Most people are saying that it's better than the old Blur, but it's still a custom skin. That **** needs to go.



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Good luck as with Samsung all carrier phones are different and maybe locked if carrier ask demands it. Also radios are different. So what works across the pond like roms and rooting may not work heree



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Samsung has never released a phone with a locked bootloader on Verizon, and the only manufacturer Verizon deals with that's releasing locked phones is Motorola, so I'm not sure where you got this information. Verizon isn't forcing anyone to lock their phones.

The SGS2 will not be locked down.

That said, the ROMs will indeed be different because of the different radios. ROM releases also depend a great deal on how quickly source code gets released, and it's always different for each phone variant (as seen with the Fascinate).
 
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Really no phones locked on vzw every phone android phone to date has been locked. And its taken a few weeks to unlock and root. Give it the x is locked more then others with efuse but they found a way around it.
 
All custom skins are terrible. Where did I state that TouchWiz is any better than Blur?

The SGSII's bootloader is already unlocked and the phone already has major dev support. On day one I will be able to load up CM7 on the SGSII, while on the Bionic, I will be waiting for months to be able to load up a bloat-free AOSP ROM.

Blur sucks, TouchWiz sucks, pretty much every custom skin sucks (Sense only half-sucks) end of story. AOSP is better than every single one.

Most people are saying that it's better than the old Blur, but it's still a custom skin. That **** needs to go.

day one? I think your putting way to much trust in the sgs hype train, this phone is so overhyped. First off the phone is not going to come pre-rooted, it will be a bit of time until that is exploited. Then the rom doesn't magically port itself to the phone just because it's unlocked, there's a lot of work that has to be put in to port it over. Samsung gave the cm team a sgs2 not a fascinate 2, so your going to have to wait until an official cm member gets one too. (unless you want a buggy unofficial port) In all honesty its possible that the bionic could end up with a stable cm build first, not as likely, but possible especially with the massive dev support that comes behind every major moto phone.

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Good luck as with Samsung all carrier phones are different and maybe locked if carrier ask demands it. Also radios are different. So what works across the pond like roms and rooting may not work heree

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I'm pretty sure that it will. The Charge was unlocked from the factory. The radios for the ROMs will be different, but that's about it.

Really no phones locked on vzw every phone android phone to date has been locked. And its taken a few weeks to unlock and root. Give it the x is locked more then others with efuse but they found a way around it.
"Locked" is an incredibly vague term. What do you mean by that?

There are probably more phones on Verizon that have unlocked bootloaders than ones that have signed ones. HTC phones, with the exception of the Sensation and a few others, normally have NAND locks only. I can't think of a Samsung phone that has had a locked bootloader. The only phones released on Verizon with locked bootloaders that I can remember were Motorola phones after the OG Droid.

I have a serious aversion to buying any Motorola product after they have repeatedly made terrible decisions regarding custom skins and bootloaders. The fact is that they had the development community with the OG Droid and then lost them once they started locking bootloaders. HTC and Samsung phones are now the primary development platforms for most Android developers.
 
day one? I think your putting way to much trust in the sgs hype reason, this phone is so overhyped. First off the phone is not going to come pre-rooted, it will be a bit of time until that is exploited. Then the rom doesn't magically port itself to the phone just because it's unlocked, there's a lot of work that has to be put in to port it over. Samsung gave the cm team a sgs2 not a fascinate 2, so your going to have to wait until an official cm member gets one too. (unless you want a buggy unofficial port) In all honesty its possible that the bionic could end up with a stable cm build first, not as likely, but possible especially with the massive dev support that comes behind every major moto phone.

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I have to respectfully disagree. The SGS2 will be unlocked and ready to load a few custom roms well before the Bionic even sees its first build of CM7. Development will be much stronger for the GS2 than it will be for the Bionic and why? That's where the numbers are and where the numbers are is how they will make their money (albeit its not much). Bionic is but one phone while the Galaxy S 2 spans across many carriers. Its about numbers. Bionic will pale in comparison in regards to developer support. Plus we are talking about an unlocked/unencrypted bootloader versus Motos Fort Knox set up they have going.

I give the gs2 1..5 to 2 weeks to see its first CM build. Stable or not it should see something in that time frame.



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Was checking HoFo this morning and saw this relevant post from Winston25 who is about a good a source as can ever be asked for:



So yeah, Motorola really locked themselves down. So, Motorola now has a month to generate some buzz - it is high time they start showing some leg on this darn thing!

Hope that's Winston's way of saying this thing will have something special to offer that we don't know about yet.
 
My thing is have we even had confirmation Bionic will be locked down considering moto's announcment of future phones being unlocked. I feel that until we get more detail its all speculation if it will or won't be locked or unlocked.
 
Hope that's Winston's way of saying this thing will have something special to offer that we don't know about yet.

If there is something special we haven't heard about yet I'd be surprised frankly. However, it does leave enough room for it to happen that's for sure.

Come on Motorola, it's Marti Gras,
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is on the balcony... I've got my beads ready.. show em!

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I have to respectfully disagree. The SGS2 will be unlocked and ready to load a few custom roms well before the Bionic even sees its first build of CM7. Development will be much stronger for the GS2 than it will be for the Bionic and why? That's where the numbers are and where the numbers are is how they will make their money (albeit its not much). Bionic is but one phone while the Galaxy S 2 spans across many carriers. Its about numbers. Bionic will pale in comparison in regards to developer support. Plus we are talking about an unlocked/unencrypted bootloader versus Motos Fort Knox set up they have going.

I give the gs2 1..5 to 2 weeks to see its first CM build. Stable or not it should see something in that time frame.



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The dev scene for the fascinate was completly miniscule the fact that the phone was sold all over the world didn't seem to help at all, how is this going to be different?

afaik the fascinate is just finally getting official cm7 now, after the dx with its locked bootloader and everything.
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day one? I think your putting way to much trust in the sgs hype reason, this phone is so overhyped. First off the phone is not going to come pre-rooted, it will be a bit of time until that is exploited. Then the rom doesn't magically port itself to the phone just because it's unlocked, there's a lot of work that has to be put in to port it over. Samsung gave the cm team a sgs2 not a fascinate 2, so your going to have to wait until an official cm member gets one too. (unless you want a buggy unofficial port) In all honesty its possible that the bionic could end up with a stable cm build first, not as likely, but possible especially with the massive dev support that comes behind every major moto phone.

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Where did he say it would come pre rooted? The sgs2 will be rooted day one and have roms shortly after. I mean it's not like moto that locks down their phones and look the droid 3 is still yet to be rooted. Just saying you don't need to get defensive when people state a known fact because the phone you want will not be as good in that manner. Both will be good phones no need to argue that.
 
Where did he say it would come pre rooted? The sgs2 will be rooted day one and have roms shortly after. I mean it's not like moto that locks down their phones and look the droid 3 is still yet to be rooted. Just saying you don't need to get defensive when people state a known fact because the phone you want will not be as good in that manner. Both will be good phones no need to argue that.

defensive? if anyone is being defensive it's you, stating opinions and counting then as "facts". Who says it will be rooted day one? Is there something you know that w don't? The dev scene for the d3 is tiny also, that was my point, without devs it takes longer. Root has nothing to do with the locked bootloader, pretty muvh every phone has been just as "locked down" as the d3 as far as root goes.

BTW though, in case you are following the d3 scene the root method for the attrix gb method supposedly can be ported to it.

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defensive? if anyone is being defensive it's you, stating opinions and counting then as "facts". Who says it will be rooted day one? Is there something you know that w don't? The dev scene for the d3 is tiny also, that was my point, without devs it takes longer. Root has nothing to do with the locked bootloader, pretty muvh every phone has been just as "locked down" as the d3 as far as root goes.

BTW though, in case you are following the d3 scene the root method for the attrix gb method supposedly can be ported to it.

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