Google Pixel 6/Pro - just over the horizon?

Really thinking the Pro is gonna be my next phone. I've had my beloved Note 9 for a long while now. While it really still works other than getting somewhat slower, I'm almost ready to try something new. I've only had Note phones since the 2.

Will my Samsung wireless charger work with this phone?

Still debating on whether I should wait even longer, but I don't know. I'll see when pricing comes out. Gonna miss my SD card and headphone jack for sure!
 
Really thinking the Pro is gonna be my next phone. I've had my beloved Note 9 for a long while now. While it really still works other than getting somewhat slower, I'm almost ready to try something new. I've only had Note phones since the 2.

Will my Samsung wireless charger work with this phone?

Still debating on whether I should wait even longer, but I don't know. I'll see when pricing comes out. Gonna miss my SD card and headphone jack for sure!

It should be a nice upgrade for you. Your wireless charger should work with it as it has Qi charging.
 
The 6 Pro is going to be a big adjustment for me coming from my beloved Pixel 3. While I'm going to miss the compact size of the 3 I'm sure my aging eyes will appreciate the larger screen After a few days I'm guessing I'll be able to adjust to a larger form factor again as I had the Pixel 2 XL before my 3 and more recently I spent some time with the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra for a bit. With the S21 Ultra it wasn't so much the size that got to me but the heft of that device was certainly something I wasn't liking too much. Has there been any leaks about the proposed weight of the Pro?
 
I'm no stranger to large phones so bring it on.
Me neither. It should be in the ballpark of the OnePlus 7 Pro and I loved that phone with it's big, uninterrupted screen.
 
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The 6 Pro is going to be a big adjustment for me coming from my beloved Pixel 3. While I'm going to miss the compact size of the 3 I'm sure my aging eyes will appreciate the larger screen After a few days I'm guessing I'll be able to adjust to a larger form factor again as I had the Pixel 2 XL before my 3 and more recently I spent some time with the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra for a bit. With the S21 Ultra it wasn't so much the size that got to me but the heft of that device was certainly something I wasn't liking too much. Has there been any leaks about the proposed weight of the Pro?
I've not seen any weight leaks but kinda remember reading somewhere it would be heaviest Pixel released.. But then again all previous didn't seem heavy...
 
Some very precise(lucky lol) throws to the docks that didn't end up with my hose in the water. Pixel 3a
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Looking forward to the pro. Whether it can stay as a daily remains to be seen.

Unfortunately, mediocre middle of the road device with great camera software is their usual M.O. Looking at the leaks, it's not going to best any existing device in any department.

Will reserve judgement until it's in hand though.
 
Looking forward to the pro. Whether it can stay as a daily remains to be seen.

Unfortunately, mediocre middle of the road device with great camera software is their usual M.O. Looking at the leaks, it's not going to best any existing device in any department.

Will reserve judgement until it's in hand though.
Have you seen the camera specs? The only category it might potentially lose in is outright zoom and video. Remember Google has never used impressive camera hardware until this year and their cameras have always been in discussion of being amongst the best for stills. But we'll have to wait and see what Google put together.
 
Have you seen the camera specs? The only category it might potentially lose in is outright zoom and video. Remember Google has never used impressive camera hardware until this year and their cameras have always been in discussion of being amongst the best for stills. But we'll have to wait and see what Google put together.
Yes. Seen all the leaks. I'm sure they will push the Samsung GN1 / IMX386 / IMX586 as far as anyone can. With some interesting bespoke modes and features.

Camera aside, The Fear is always the same with a pixel - at the "can buy any device" £1000 end of the market - will the screen, battery, haptics, sound, battery, charging speed, availablity, support ( not in a software way, but carrier support - I have 3 Sims and I know only one of them will give visual voicemail, WiFi calling and volte on pixels. They all do on my Samsung's ) et al merit the price.

Never mind the whole unknown Tensor side of things. Could go either way. But for a late 2021 devices to behind the 888 for 95pc of tasks is not on. If that's how it turns out.

I will get one anyway as I like to make my own mind up. And like to take the occasional picture.
 
Looks like I won't need to adjust to a different sized phone if I do update to the 6 Pro from my Note 8 as planned. The 6P is basically identical in size to the phone I'm used to for the last 4 years. Sweet!

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This is awesome! Thank you for the size comparison!
 
Yes. Seen all the leaks. I'm sure they will push the Samsung GN1 / IMX386 / IMX586 as far as anyone can. With some interesting bespoke modes and features.

Camera aside, The Fear is always the same with a pixel - at the "can buy any device" £1000 end of the market - will the screen, battery, haptics, sound, battery, charging speed, availablity, support ( not in a software way, but carrier support - I have 3 Sims and I know only one of them will give visual voicemail, WiFi calling and volte on pixels. They all do on my Samsung's ) et al merit the price.

Never mind the whole unknown Tensor side of things. Could go either way. But for a late 2021 devices to behind the 888 for 95pc of tasks is not on. If that's how it turns out.

I will get one anyway as I like to make my own mind up. And like to take the occasional picture.
Oh ok I get what you're saying. I was speaking specifically in terms of the camera system which I have full faith that Google will wow with. Everything else like performance and battery life should be interesting. This could be their year to get it right. They kinda already dropped the ball with the regular 6 leaving out the telephoto lens completely so hopefully they can make up for it with everything else.
 
Oh ok I get what you're saying. I was speaking specifically in terms of the camera system which I have full faith that Google will wow with. Everything else like performance and battery life should be interesting. This could be their year to get it right. They kinda already dropped the ball with the regular 6 leaving out the telephoto lens completely so hopefully they can make up for it with everything else.
Oh, I have faith in them delivering on the camera front. Well post processing might.

My personal take on pixel cameras is they don't quite deserve the halo praise. They are good. Very good. But I have taken equally good same shots on my Samsung's, Xiaomis , oppos etc etc. The colours and quality on the wide angle of my Oppo X3 Pro blew me away.
I don't shoot video though.

Spending £1000 on a device if it's to be your daily on the historical plaudits of past camera performance is a bit strange.
Can't wait to try it out though.

You are right about dropping the ball on the 6 though. Why oh why can't the only difference be the physical size and hence battery size. Hate that they chop features.
 
Looking forward to the pro. Whether it can stay as a daily remains to be seen.

Unfortunately, mediocre middle of the road device with great camera software is their usual M.O. Looking at the leaks, it's not going to best any existing device in any department.

Will reserve judgement until it's in hand though.

I think reserving judgement is probably a very wise move. I'm super excited for the Pro, and am having to do the same to keep my mind open to the possibility of some disappointments. That said, current Pixels already best other devices in a number of software areas. So long as they firm up their current shortcomings, they'll earn their spot in competition for flagship buyers (whether or not people are aware of them, or salespeople are open to steering customers towards them, being other matters).

Looking at the 6 Pro (and acknowledging that the 6 lags behind in many areas - hence making the change in nomenclature from XL to Pro appropriate) there's really nothing about it from a hardware perspective that follows their traditional offering, most particularly the camera hardware and custom SOC.

Camera hardware in fully on point, and paired with their software prowess should handily compete with any other phone out there - the key thing with the camera will be the skill and interest in managing the process. Lacking the array of manual controls some other OEMs allow will be a limiting factor for some, but for the vast majority of consumers who will use it as a point-and-shoot, it will probably come out on top. By comparison, I can count the number of times I took a picture on my 3 XL with which I was displeased on one hand over 2 years of ownership. I got to that number inside of a few weeks on the S20 FE which replaced it.

At 12GB, RAM is ample. Full range of 5G spectrums, UWB, WiFi 6E, in-display FPS (I know I'm in the minority, but I still look at that last one as a downgrade from the flawlessly reliable and intuitive rear capacitive FPS - or the option of integrating it into the power button).

Base storage is reasonable, with good range of option available for those who find sufficient value to justify the (no doubt too high) increase in price.

Screen is reported to be Samsung's newest generation which got an A+ from Displaymate, possibly supporting variable 10-120Hz refresh.

Battery at 5,000mAH along with efficiency improvements from a 5nm process and (hopefully) well-optimized mating of software to task and variable refresh should provide very respectable battery life. Also, 33w fast charging isn't the fastest out there, but is more than 30% faster than (today's) Samsung flagships. And while other companies are pushing that to in excess of 100w, one has to consider the tipping point at which the additional wear on the battery from excess heat - no matter how well managed - is worth suffering to shave a couple of minutes off of a recharge.

There are only two areas for which I have any concern.

The first is the SOC, and it's an interesting one. To compare it based on traditional tests to other flagships can hold some validity, but given that the vast majority of Android devices run on Qualcomm, additional perspective is needed - one can't simply say 'SD8## will outperform SD7##' because we're not looking at chips designed with the same methodology but different components. Plus, Google's approach has always been about performance through optimized software rather than brute force. If they've done a good job in designing the chip to efficiently and effectively work with their software design, it will likely outperform the current or even next generation SD chip in many areas, and fall short in others - the relevant conclusion as to value being driven by the priority an individual user places on those tasks. If they haven't done a good job, or if the chip is 'flawed' in other ways, well, that's the only real risk I see with this device that would cause it to fall short. Being their own design, Google also hasn't had to pay a lot of the licensing fees to Qualcomm they normally would, which reduces their production cost.

Also important to note that Tensor is poised to offer functionality that simply isn't possible with Snapdragon, such as running their top shelf photo processing in real time on video. I don't expect it to suddenly launch Google to be head and shoulders over everyone else in the way and to the degree that the first Pixel succeeded with still images, but it should be an enormous improvement over the current models, and should make them at a minimum very competitive with other flagships (and will likely improve over time with updates and new features, as we saw with the evolution with the stills).

The second is the performance of Samsung's 5G modem vs Qualcomm's. No idea what to expect there, but knowing that Samsung has had success with it in devices outside of the US (where I live) has me optimistic it will perform similarly.

The bright side? Only 24 days (hopefully) until we actually get confirmation as to details, and 33 days until products are in hands and we can learn from the actual experience of suckers buyers like me who opt in early.
 
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I think reserving judgement is probably a very wise move. I'm super excited for the Pro, and am having to do the same to keep my mind open to the possibility of some disappointments. That said, current Pixels already best other devices in a number of software areas. So long as they firm up their current shortcomings, they'll earn their spot in competition for flagship buyers (whether or not people are aware of them, or salespeople are open to steering customers towards them, being other matters).

Looking at the 6 Pro (and acknowledging that the 6 lags behind in many areas - hence making the change in nomenclature from XL to Pro appropriate) there's really nothing about it from a hardware perspective that follows their traditional offering, most particularly the camera hardware and custom SOC.

Camera hardware in fully on point, and paired with their software prowess should handily compete with any other phone out there - the key thing with the camera will be the skill and interest in managing the process. Lacking the array of manual controls some other OEMs allow will be a limiting factor for some, but for the vast majority of consumers who will use it as a point-and-shoot, it will probably come out on top. By comparison, I can count the number of times I took a picture on my 3 XL with which I was displeased on one hand over 2 years of ownership. I got to that number inside of a few weeks on the S20 FE which replaced it.

At 12GB, RAM is ample. Full range of 5G spectrums, UWB, WiFi 6E, in-display FPS (I know I'm in the minority, but I still look at that last one as a downgrade from the flawlessly reliable and intuitive rear capacitive FPS - or the option of integrating it into the power button).

Base storage is reasonable, with good range of option available for those who find sufficient value to justify the (no doubt too high) increase in price.

Screen is reported to be Samsung's newest generation which got an A+ from Displaymate, possibly supporting variable 10-120Hz refresh.

Battery at 5,000mAH along with efficiency improvements from a 5nm process and (hopefully) well-optimized mating of software to task and variable refresh should provide very respectable battery life. Also, 33w fast charging isn't the fastest out there, but is more than 30% faster than (today's) Samsung flagships. And while other companies are pushing that to in excess of 100w, one has to consider the tipping point at which the additional wear on the battery from excess heat - no matter how well managed - is worth suffering to shave a couple of minutes off of a recharge.

There are only two areas for which I have any concern.

The first is the SOC, and it's an interesting one. To compare it based on traditional tests to other flagships can hold some validity, but given that the vast majority of Android devices run on Qualcomm, additional perspective is needed - one can't simply say 'SD8## will outperform SD7##' because we're not looking at chips designed with the same methodology but different components. Plus, Google's approach has always been about performance through optimized software rather than brute force. If they've done a good job in designing the chip to efficiently and effectively work with their software design, it will likely outperform the current or even next generation SD chip in many areas, and fall short in others - the relevant conclusion as to value being driven by the priority an individual user places on those tasks. If they haven't done a good job, or if the chip is 'flawed' in other ways, well, that's the only real risk I see with this device that would cause it to fall short. Being their own design, Google also hasn't had to pay a lot of the licensing fees to Qualcomm they normally would, which reduces their production cost.

Also important to note that Tensor is poised to offer functionality that simply isn't possible with Snapdragon, such as running their top shelf photo processing in real time on video. I don't expect it to suddenly launch Google to be head and shoulders over everyone else in the way and to the degree that the first Pixel succeeded with still images, but it should be an enormous improvement over the current models, and should make them at a minimum very competitive with other flagships (and will likely improve over time with updates and new features, as we saw with the evolution with the stills).

The second is the performance of Samsung's 5G modem vs Qualcomm's. No idea what to expect there, but knowing that Samsung has had success with it in devices outside of the US (where I live) has me optimistic it will perform similarly.

The bright side? Only 24 days (hopefully) until we actually get confirmation as to details, and 33 days until products are in hands and we can learn from the actual experience of suckers buyers like me who opt in early.
I think this is very well said.
 
I think reserving judgement is probably a very wise move. I'm super excited for the Pro, and am having to do the same to keep my mind open to the possibility of some disappointments. That said, current Pixels already best other devices in a number of software areas. So long as they firm up their current shortcomings, they'll earn their spot in competition for flagship buyers (whether or not people are aware of them, or salespeople are open to steering customers towards them, being other matters).

Looking at the 6 Pro (and acknowledging that the 6 lags behind in many areas - hence making the change in nomenclature from XL to Pro appropriate) there's really nothing about it from a hardware perspective that follows their traditional offering, most particularly the camera hardware and custom SOC.

Camera hardware in fully on point, and paired with their software prowess should handily compete with any other phone out there - the key thing with the camera will be the skill and interest in managing the process. Lacking the array of manual controls some other OEMs allow will be a limiting factor for some, but for the vast majority of consumers who will use it as a point-and-shoot, it will probably come out on top. By comparison, I can count the number of times I took a picture on my 3 XL with which I was displeased on one hand over 2 years of ownership. I got to that number inside of a few weeks on the S20 FE which replaced it.

At 12GB, RAM is ample. Full range of 5G spectrums, UWB, WiFi 6E, in-display FPS (I know I'm in the minority, but I still look at that last one as a downgrade from the flawlessly reliable and intuitive rear capacitive FPS - or the option of integrating it into the power button).

Base storage is reasonable, with good range of option available for those who find sufficient value to justify the (no doubt too high) increase in price.

Screen is reported to be Samsung's newest generation which got an A+ from Displaymate, possibly supporting variable 10-120Hz refresh.

Battery at 5,000mAH along with efficiency improvements from a 5nm process and (hopefully) well-optimized mating of software to task and variable refresh should provide very respectable battery life. Also, 33w fast charging isn't the fastest out there, but is more than 30% faster than (today's) Samsung flagships. And while other companies are pushing that to in excess of 100w, one has to consider the tipping point at which the additional wear on the battery from excess heat - no matter how well managed - is worth suffering to shave a couple of minutes off of a recharge.

There are only two areas for which I have any concern.

The first is the SOC, and it's an interesting one. To compare it based on traditional tests to other flagships can hold some validity, but given that the vast majority of Android devices run on Qualcomm, additional perspective is needed - one can't simply say 'SD8## will outperform SD7##' because we're not looking at chips designed with the same methodology but different components. Plus, Google's approach has always been about performance through optimized software rather than brute force. If they've done a good job in designing the chip to efficiently and effectively work with their software design, it will likely outperform the current or even next generation SD chip in many areas, and fall short in others - the relevant conclusion as to value being driven by the priority an individual user places on those tasks. If they haven't done a good job, or if the chip is 'flawed' in other ways, well, that's the only real risk I see with this device that would cause it to fall short. Being their own design, Google also hasn't had to pay a lot of the licensing fees to Qualcomm they normally would, which reduces their production cost.

Also important to note that Tensor is poised to offer functionality that simply isn't possible with Snapdragon, such as running their top shelf photo processing in real time on video. I don't expect it to suddenly launch Google to be head and shoulders over everyone else in the way and to the degree that the first Pixel succeeded with still images, but it should be an enormous improvement over the current models, and should make them at a minimum very competitive with other flagships (and will likely improve over time with updates and new features, as we saw with the evolution with the stills).

The second is the performance of Samsung's 5G modem vs Qualcomm's. No idea what to expect there, but knowing that Samsung has had success with it in devices outside of the US (where I live) has me optimistic it will perform similarly.

The bright side? Only 24 days (hopefully) until we actually get confirmation as to details, and 33 days until products are in hands and we can learn from the actual experience of suckers buyers like me who opt in early.

I've got to ask, Jeremy are you a writer by trade? If not you should be ;)
 
The bright side? Only 24 days (hopefully) until we actually get confirmation as to details, and 33 days until products are in hands and we can learn from the actual experience of suckers buyers like me who opt in early.

Me too - only way to go!

Ordered a new laptop last night and VISA told me they'd only approve the purchase if I promised to order a Pixel 6 on the day it was released. My reply "I can do that".

I love my VISA card, it understands me.

Very well written post Jeremy.
 
Me too - only way to go!

Ordered a new laptop last night and VISA told me they'd only approve the purchase if I promised to order a Pixel 6 on the day it was released. My reply "I can do that".

I love my VISA card, it understands me.

Very well written post Jeremy.
Lol wow that's funny.
 
I think reserving judgement is probably a very wise move. I'm super excited for the Pro, and am having to do the same to keep my mind open to the possibility of some disappointments. That said, current Pixels already best other devices in a number of software areas. So long as they firm up their current shortcomings, they'll earn their spot in competition for flagship buyers (whether or not people are aware of them, or salespeople are open to steering customers towards them, being other matters).

Looking at the 6 Pro (and acknowledging that the 6 lags behind in many areas - hence making the change in nomenclature from XL to Pro appropriate) there's really nothing about it from a hardware perspective that follows their traditional offering, most particularly the camera hardware and custom SOC.

Camera hardware in fully on point, and paired with their software prowess should handily compete with any other phone out there - the key thing with the camera will be the skill and interest in managing the process. Lacking the array of manual controls some other OEMs allow will be a limiting factor for some, but for the vast majority of consumers who will use it as a point-and-shoot, it will probably come out on top. By comparison, I can count the number of times I took a picture on my 3 XL with which I was displeased on one hand over 2 years of ownership. I got to that number inside of a few weeks on the S20 FE which replaced it.

At 12GB, RAM is ample. Full range of 5G spectrums, UWB, WiFi 6E, in-display FPS (I know I'm in the minority, but I still look at that last one as a downgrade from the flawlessly reliable and intuitive rear capacitive FPS - or the option of integrating it into the power button).

Base storage is reasonable, with good range of option available for those who find sufficient value to justify the (no doubt too high) increase in price.

Screen is reported to be Samsung's newest generation which got an A+ from Displaymate, possibly supporting variable 10-120Hz refresh.

Battery at 5,000mAH along with efficiency improvements from a 5nm process and (hopefully) well-optimized mating of software to task and variable refresh should provide very respectable battery life. Also, 33w fast charging isn't the fastest out there, but is more than 30% faster than (today's) Samsung flagships. And while other companies are pushing that to in excess of 100w, one has to consider the tipping point at which the additional wear on the battery from excess heat - no matter how well managed - is worth suffering to shave a couple of minutes off of a recharge.

There are only two areas for which I have any concern.

The first is the SOC, and it's an interesting one. To compare it based on traditional tests to other flagships can hold some validity, but given that the vast majority of Android devices run on Qualcomm, additional perspective is needed - one can't simply say 'SD8## will outperform SD7##' because we're not looking at chips designed with the same methodology but different components. Plus, Google's approach has always been about performance through optimized software rather than brute force. If they've done a good job in designing the chip to efficiently and effectively work with their software design, it will likely outperform the current or even next generation SD chip in many areas, and fall short in others - the relevant conclusion as to value being driven by the priority an individual user places on those tasks. If they haven't done a good job, or if the chip is 'flawed' in other ways, well, that's the only real risk I see with this device that would cause it to fall short. Being their own design, Google also hasn't had to pay a lot of the licensing fees to Qualcomm they normally would, which reduces their production cost.

Also important to note that Tensor is poised to offer functionality that simply isn't possible with Snapdragon, such as running their top shelf photo processing in real time on video. I don't expect it to suddenly launch Google to be head and shoulders over everyone else in the way and to the degree that the first Pixel succeeded with still images, but it should be an enormous improvement over the current models, and should make them at a minimum very competitive with other flagships (and will likely improve over time with updates and new features, as we saw with the evolution with the stills).

The second is the performance of Samsung's 5G modem vs Qualcomm's. No idea what to expect there, but knowing that Samsung has had success with it in devices outside of the US (where I live) has me optimistic it will perform similarly.

The bright side? Only 24 days (hopefully) until we actually get confirmation as to details, and 33 days until products are in hands and we can learn from the actual experience of suckers buyers like me who opt in early.

You are my second favorite poster, behind Mustang757, but that's only because of his overwhelming positivity and optimism LOL!
 

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