Guess I'm going to leave AT&T if we don't get 5.1.1 by the end of the month.

[Kelly Kearns]

Re: Guess I'm going to leave AT&T if we don't get 5.1.1 by the end of the month.

This app has been around over a year, which means through OS updates. Samsung might do something about it at some point, but so far many phones have gone through updates and it has still been allowed.

 

[wayneotis]

I have the same problems. Had an S6 with Verizon, came to AT&T less than a month ago. While my signal has been great compared to Verizon, my S6 Active is noticeably different in its performance. I've been complaining about issues since day 4, so much so that AT&T is letting me walk away from my contract completely. So ridiculous. 5.1.1 would fix a lot of this, but I'm convinced AT&T has their head in the sand with this kind of stuff, trying to move devices over customer satisfaction. In fact, two reps offered me a higher memory S5 because "it was more stable."

 

[GreetingsFromAP]

Now that I've factory reset my Active, I have been very happy with the performance. No lag so far. I don't know if it was a particular app that I had running. Now I just add apps one at a time as I need them, so if it starts behaving badly again, I should be able to pinpoint the cause. I am probably going to return the Nexus 6P this week. It is a good phone, but the Active has a better camera and I actually appreciate some of the TouchWiz features on the Active. No 60fps recording on the 6P, no OIS, no HDR video. Audio levels though the headset are much lower. Also I was watching a locally stored movie on both and the detail on the Active is just better. Doesn't make sense since the screens have the same resolution, but for instance the wrinkles on John Malcovitch's head is just much clearer on the Active. Bottom line is the 6P just doesn't offer enough for me to switch right now. It is a great phone and has an awesome finger print reader, but I think I can live with the Active a while longer

 

[rong21]

Seriously, Android 6.0 is already out. We can't even get the critical update to 5.1.1, even though it rolled out to Nexus devices 6 months ago. I knew the Active was going to get software updates later than the mainline S6, but the fact that the S6 only just got 5.1.1 this month is ridiculous. So done with AT&T.

So you still here with the Active?

 

[Law2138]

I'm running Package Disabler as well on my Active. Something doesn't seem right (although device performance is adequate, it's not as snappy as I first purchased it.) Package disabler reports that I have 268/2950 available RAM. It seems pretty low for just running FB, Fantasy Football and Play Music. I've got all the standard Google Apps updated and the ATT/Samsung bloatware disabled.

Does anyone think that the available memory would be greater if I stopped using Package Disabler? Does it do something to the memory management, like make it worse?

 

[hanamizi168]

I'm running Package Disabler as well on my Active. Something doesn't seem right (although device performance is adequate, it's not as snappy as I first purchased it.) Package disabler reports that I have 268/2950 available RAM. It seems pretty low for just running FB, Fantasy Football and Play Music. I've got all the standard Google Apps updated and the ATT/Samsung bloatware disabled.

Does anyone think that the available memory would be greater if I stopped using Package Disabler? Does it do something to the memory management, like make it worse?

I think its normal. Check from Android application from setting. Normally you should have 600mb free Ram.

 

[planoman]

Don't be so quick to assume 5.1.1 will fix anything. I have the S6 and S6 active and while samsung pay is cool, and I wish I had it on the active, it did something to my battery life which was already not great.

So into the drawer until marshmallow comes or maybe I will sell it and just keep my nexus phone, Nexus 6P currently and my iPhone 6s+. I should sell my active too, but i just love it when camping, near water etc.

It is getting to the point that that these oems and carrier are only interested in selling new phones and not supporting the ones they have.

Posted via my Nexus 6P!

 

[rong21]

Don't be so quick to assume 5.1.1 will fix anything. I have the S6 and S6 active and while samsung pay is cool, and I wish I had it on the active, it did something to my battery life which was already not great.

So into the drawer until marshmallow comes or maybe I will sell it and just keep my nexus phone, Nexus 6P currently and my iPhone 6s+. I should sell my active too, but i just love it when camping, near water etc.

It is getting to the point that that these oems and carrier are only interested in selling new phones and not supporting the ones they have.

Posted via my Nexus 6P!

Planoman, former Planoman here (grew up there).........I'm in no hurry for 5.1.1.

My active works perfectly as is.

 

[GreetingsFromAP]

Don't be so quick to assume 5.1.1 will fix anything. I have the S6 and S6 active and while samsung pay is cool, and I wish I had it on the active, it did something to my battery life which was already not great.

So into the drawer until marshmallow comes or maybe I will sell it and just keep my nexus phone, Nexus 6P currently and my iPhone 6s+. I should sell my active too, but i just love it when camping, near water etc.

It is getting to the point that that these oems and carrier are only interested in selling new phones and not supporting the ones they have.

Posted via my Nexus 6P!

@planoman How do you like the 6P? I am thinking of returning the 6P. I have one too, just doesn't feel like it offers that much over the Active. It might just be Android fatigue though. I am happy how Marshmallow forces OEMS to play a bit more fairly by making them be more explicit in app permissions as well as battery reporting. I do prefer the camera on the Active. 6P takes good quality pictures, but the Active is just faster for HDR photos, the modes are nice and the camera app is just better. Final picture quality of comparable on both.

@rong21 To be happy to not get updates is silly. Maybe an update wouldn't fix anything noticeable around app performance, but it does mean you are getting the latest security patches. Google committed to monthly security releases and they seem to be sticking to that with a Nov update for the Nexus line. How long until the Active gets an update? Even if that update isn't to 5.1.1, but just a security release. I think the only reason they patched Stagefright was because it was such a big deal.

 

[rong21]

@planoman How do you like the 6P? I am thinking of returning the 6P. I have one too, just doesn't feel like it offers that much over the Active. It might just be Android fatigue though. I am happy how Marshmallow forces OEMS to play a bit more fairly by making them be more explicit in app permissions as well as battery reporting. I do prefer the camera on the Active. 6P takes good quality pictures, but the Active is just faster for HDR photos, the modes are nice and the camera app is just better. Final picture quality of comparable on both.

@rong21 To be happy to not get updates is silly. Maybe an update wouldn't fix anything noticeable around app performance, but it does mean you are getting the latest security patches. Google committed to monthly security releases and they seem to be sticking to that with a Nov update for the Nexus line. How long until the Active gets an update? Even if that update isn't to 5.1.1, but just a security release. I think the only reason they patched Stagefright was because it was such a big deal.

That's not what I meant. I didn't say I wasn't happy about not getting updates. All I said was mine works fine right now.

 

[GreetingsFromAP]

That's not what I meant. I didn't say I wasn't happy about not getting updates. All I said was mine works fine right now.

Got it and I agree, it works fine for me (mostly). I just mean all Android users should be annoyed at the sad state of security patching from OEMs. Google just found a bunch of vulnerabilities in Samsung's apps. Let's see how long they take to get fixed.

 

[planoman]

@planoman How do you like the 6P? I am thinking of returning the 6P. I have one too, just doesn't feel like it offers that much over the Active. It might just be Android fatigue though. I am happy how Marshmallow forces OEMS to play a bit more fairly by making them be more explicit in app permissions as well as battery reporting. I do prefer the camera on the Active. 6P takes good quality pictures, but the Active is just faster for HDR photos, the modes are nice and the camera app is just better. Final picture quality of comparable on both.

@rong21 To be happy to not get updates is silly. Maybe an update wouldn't fix anything noticeable around app performance, but it does mean you are getting the latest security patches. Google committed to monthly security releases and they seem to be sticking to that with a Nov update for the Nexus line. How long until the Active gets an update? Even if that update isn't to 5.1.1, but just a security release. I think the only reason they patched Stagefright was because it was such a big deal.

I like the 6P. I have always kept a Nexus since the Nexus S (Except Galaxy Nexus) for quick updates etc. I flashed marshmallow on my Nexus 6 the day the image posted. I have also decided to keep an iphone as well and have a 6S+which I really like as well. 5.1.1 screwed up my battery life on my S6 and if I had marshmallow I could find out which app is always requesting location even when location if off, no new app added after 5.1.1.

I like having the fingerprint scanner and believe it is the future of apps. I have several (6-8) financial and banking apps that use touch ID on iPhone so I want that on my Nexus. Hate entering all those password all the time. Having said that, my son is a scout so we camp quite a bit and that is where my active shines! I will keep it for that reason! Nothing beat the active when camping, outdoors, water, beach etc! Not only the rugged design, but the battery life when chargers are not all over!

 

[Kelly Kearns]

AT&T is still slow on updates, that is for sure. I got my 4th update for my Note 5 two days ago. AT&T and Verizon have been slower with updating. They have just recently started releasing the 5.1.1 for the Note 4, around the time Marshmallow was released. I had my AT&T Note 4 for a year and I got one update.

 

[GreetingsFromAP]

I just want the following in a phone. Great durability, expandable memory, 2 day battery life, timely software updates (for at least 2 years), excellent camera, fingerprint reader, not carrier locked, QHD AMOLED screen with at least 500nits max, and not a phablet. Is that too much to ask?

 

[bobmurray1212]

Ok someone explain to me why my Nexus 7 2013 edition with no finger print scanner and only 2 GB ram, not only had 5.1.1, but now has 6.0. Older version android updated but new phone with way better specs still in the dark. Very frustrating. By the way 6.0 is great. Much better battery and memory management.

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[emad1995]

Ok someone explain to me why my Nexus 7 2013 edition with no finger print scanner and only 2 GB ram, not only had 5.1.1, but now has 6.0. Older version android updated but new phone with way better specs still in the dark. Very frustrating. By the way 6.0 is great. Much better battery and memory management.

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It's because google pushes the update straight to the nexus 7 whereas for the active google sends the update to Samsung and then they have to put their own customizations on it. Then the update needs to be pushed to the carrier who then puts their own customizations it and then there is carrier testing to test that the software works. Then it comes to you.

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[Kelly Kearns]

It's because google pushes the update straight to the nexus 7 whereas for the active google sends the update to Samsung and then they have to put their own customizations on it. Then the update needs to be pushed to the carrier who then puts their own customizations it and then there is carrier testing to test that the software works. Then it comes to you.

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^^^^THIS

 

[Law2138]

I'm not interested in rooting my device considering I'm still paying for it, but wouldn't it be nice if there was a "Pure Android Mode" that allows users to run a vanilla version of Android? Maybe it's too much work, or it would take up more space on the phone, but I think it would be awesome for the consumer to determine how much "Samsung" they want to see on the device. I'm not talking Package Disabler, but the ability to run different official stripped down ROMs without the risk.

Anyways, there's probably a million different reasons as to why it will never happen, one of them being that Samsung and ATT want to force users into their services.

 

[Kelly Kearns]

I'm not interested in rooting my device considering I'm still paying for it, but wouldn't it be nice if there was a "Pure Android Mode" that allows users to run a vanilla version of Android? Maybe it's too much work, or it would take up more space on the phone, but I think it would be awesome for the consumer to determine how much "Samsung" they want to see on the device. I'm not talking Package Disabler, but the ability to run different official stripped down ROMs without the risk.

Anyways, there's probably a million different reasons as to why it will never happen, one of them being that Samsung and ATT want to force users into their services.

That won't happen because Android is open source and open for anyone to use and they will all put their take on it and I expect that.

 

[Faelach]

I had a chat with an AT&T representative yesterday, and was told that the 5.1.1 update is slated to be pushed out by the end of the month.

Here's to hoping they weren't just looking to end our chat session.