HTC M9 Review from Tweakers.net...man this thing overheats

[Alex_NJ]

Good time to mention is that one thing I like about this forum is there isn't any iPhone bashing.

People do seem to appreciate that everyone uses their phone for different purposes, and sometimes an iPhone fits their criteria.

I think thats the key to good posting, recognising whats good about the phone and which kind of people it would suit

 

[petvas72]

Good time to mention is that one thing I like about this forum is there isn't any iPhone bashing.

People do seem to appreciate that everyone uses their phone for different purposes, and sometimes an iPhone fits their criteria.

I think thats the key to good posting, recognising whats good about the phone and which kind of people it would suit

I use both an iPhone and an M8. Love both for different reasons.

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[zizu101]

Good time to mention is that one thing I like about this forum is there isn't any iPhone bashing.

People do seem to appreciate that everyone uses their phone for different purposes, and sometimes an iPhone fits their criteria.

I think thats the key to good posting, recognising whats good about the phone and which kind of people it would suit

When anyone asks me what to buy. I tell them an iPhone if they don't want to customize the home screen and aren't well versed in mobile tech. Android if they want and are willing to customize the software as they see fit. I always show them my home screens to convey what mean. ( it has a toggle widget to on/off my AC via IR, a month calendar, 4 folders, no dock, amongst other things)
It's their decision in the end.

 

[smooth4lyfe]

Would this overheating be able to be fixed with a software update? Or is that how the phone is going to be all the time?

 

[cwise222]

Would this overheating be able to be fixed with a software update? Or is that how the phone is going to be all the time?

Depends what the cause of the overheating is and when it happens. If it's just under heavy use, like intensive gaming, bench marking, etc, then they could throttle down the processor in the hope that it would solve the heating issue. If it gets that hot with less intense stuff and general use of the phone then it's much harder to just throttle down and call it a day. I'm sure between Qualcomm and HTC they can figure something out if it's something that software can help with; the only questions would be if the throttle down of the 810 would have any noticeable effect.

If it overheats because of the just how the 810 is made or how HTC designed the phone or placed the processor in the body or anything design wise then no amount of software tweak could fix that.

Until the mainstream sites start reviewing phones we really won't know much. How long did it take the phone to get that hot? Does everyday use get the phone that hot? Will it only happen if you loop HD video for 7 hours? Plus, according to HTC, the unit that was tested isn't final (in either software or hardware or both) so I'd take this more as a wait and see thing.

 

[Habiib]

There is no such thing as final software.

Would the terms stable build or non-beta release be more suitable?

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[droidguy1964]

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HTC One M9 Review - Onder de motorkap: de 64bit-Snapdragon 810 - Tweakers

The Snapdragon 810 is produced like its predecessor in the factories of TSMC, but on the new 20nm-process instead of the now somewhat outdated 28nm process. Those smaller feature size means that transistors can be placed closer together, making the final chips are smaller. Thanks to the reduction can also be the voltage down, which reduces the power consumption and the chip must be less warm.



That is the theory, but in practice it is in the case of the One M9 otherwise. The Snapdragon 810 makes it clear to be quite warm. When running benchmarks, but also in playing an intense game, the aluminum body heats up considerably.



The One M8 was during the test just under 40 degrees. That is palpable, but not uncomfortable. The One M9 was the same load as much as 55.4 degrees. That is a fundamental difference and after the turning of the test was the M9 so hot that it was uncomfortable to hold him.

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Wow..thanks for the heads up. I had so much hope for the m9 two months ago but the camera and now this...

 

[Alex_NJ]

I am so pleased I didn't blindly pre-order. I have such a decision on my hands now

 

[Alex_NJ]

You may want to take that HTC One M9 overheating report with a big grain of salt

 

[Habiib]

Just watched a podcast from the editor here and he said the software is legitimate. The software IS STABLE on the M9.

HTC's team that deals with the camera is their own team. They are going to tweak the software for the camera but I'm not expecting the M9 to put out perform the S6 or iPhone 6. That's impossible.

http://www.androidauthority.com/one-m9-release-delay-taiwan-594559/

HTC needs to know that their software is stable and there is no need to be tweaking stable software.

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[bigrey81]

Well, I thank you for that link. Looks like quality control at HTC is in the crapper. They showed up at MWC with a less than acceptable camera. Now there are software issues. I bet the phones are overheating.....

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Just don't get the phone. People are throwing info/research that they find online or through their own use and you sound like your whining as if the phone is in hand Lmbo! Omg!

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[bigrey81]

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/lg-fixed-initial-snapdragon-810-issues/

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[dann127]

Everybody needs to relax on this. I don't know if the M9 will be good or not but I do know that people are blowing this way out of proportion. HTC isn't going to release something that they think has major defects. Massive overheating would be a major defect.

What's really bugging me on here is people throwing around the term "software" willy-nilly. For reference software is what you interact with. It's GUI's and applications such as the camera and Sense 7. This very well may be final and that's cool. Sounds like they may have done a pretty good job with all the software. What IS NOT software is the low level stuff that actually tells the 1s and 0s where to go. This is Firmware. It interacts directly with the camera and the snapdragon 810. The firmware simply sends messages to the software so while the software may be final that does not mean that there aren't improvements which could be made to the firmware which would lessen the heat of the processor or improve the camera quality.

TL;DR Final software does not mean improvements cannot still be made to the camera or lessen the heating of the 810.

Everybody needs to just stop spreading FUD until the phone is officially released and people can see what HTC has actually put out for public use.

 

[Habiib]

Everybody needs to relax on this. I don't know if the M9 will be good or not but I do know that people are blowing this way out of proportion. HTC isn't going to release something that they think has major defects. Massive overheating would be a major defect.

What's really bugging me on here is people throwing around the term "software" willy-nilly. For reference software is what you interact with. It's GUI's and applications such as the camera and Sense 7. This very well may be final and that's cool. Sounds like they may have done a pretty good job with all the software. What IS NOT software is the low level stuff that actually tells the 1s and 0s where to go. This is Firmware. It interacts directly with the camera and the snapdragon 810. The firmware simply sends messages to the software so while the software may be final that does not mean that there aren't improvements which could be made to the firmware which would lessen the heat of the processor or improve the camera quality.

TL;DR Final software does not mean improvements cannot still be made to the camera or lessen the heating of the 810.

Everybody needs to just stop spreading FUD until the phone is officially released and people can see what HTC has actually put out for public use.

Don't waste your energy trying to explain. This thread is littered with those slick people who have intricate knowledge of software development, electronic engineering, systems integration, etc. They are so slick that they can write the entire Android Kernel and all the drivers using pure Assembly. Test devices aren't distributed last minute. The testing process doesn't work that way. To hell with common sense. Moving along.

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[Adam_ation]

Interesting read here, taken from a post by Security555 over on XDA...

What is behind the fake Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 overheating rumors? - SemiAccurate

 

[NEXUS_HTC_PS]

Interesting read here, taken from a post by Security555 over on XDA...

What is behind the fake Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 overheating rumors? - SemiAccurate

Kaaaaaboooooommmmm!!!!! I think I just read a huge debunker that EXPLODED everyone's minds!!! Hahahahahaha. Haters gonna hate!

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[Habiib]

Interesting read here, taken from a post by Security555 over on XDA...

What is behind the fake Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 overheating rumors? - SemiAccurate

Now let's see how many people will quote and link this article and start topics about its contents with the same vigor they did the FUD articles. My guess would be zero. I'm sure the content in this article is beyond those people's level of comprehension, yet they'll still try and argue with people who know what they're talking about. Thanks for this.

Also would you do the honors and start a new topic about how the Qualcomm woes are complete BS and anyone who goes with those claims is clueless.

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[Adam_ation]

Now let's see how many people will quote and link this article and start topics about its contents with the same vigor they did the FUD articles. My guess would be zero. I'm sure the content in this article is beyond those people's level of comprehension, yet they'll still try and argue with people who know what they're talking about. Thanks for this.

Also would you do the honors and start a new topic about how the Qualcomm woes are complete BS and anyone who goes with those claims is clueless.

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I thought the exact same thing, I must admit I had to read through it twice to digest all the indepth information.

I've started a new topic as requested - Adam

 

[aallison1882]

Now let's see how many people will quote and link this article and start topics about its contents with the same vigor they did the FUD articles. My guess would be zero. I'm sure the content in this article is beyond those people's level of comprehension, yet they'll still try and argue with people who know what they're talking about. Thanks for this.

Also would you do the honors and start a new topic about how the Qualcomm woes are complete BS and anyone who goes with those claims is clueless.

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That was a good read. But to your point people tend to believe the negative reviews and ignore the positive. I've seen so many times where a person will start to read the reviews on a product and find the one review that gave the product 1 out of 5 stars and that will become the truth. The person will then try to invalidate the hundreds of reviews that gave the product 4 or 5 stars because of 1 negative review.

 

[smooth4lyfe]

Interesting read here, taken from a post by Security555 over on XDA...

What is behind the fake Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 overheating rumors? - SemiAccurate

Good article, but at this point, I'd take every article with a grain of salt until more reviews start coming out. Evef is the chip does become "hotter than usual", if this is true with the HTC M9, I can still see this being a safety hazard for many situations if its "too hot to hold". Even if we techies understand the process, the majority of average users who don't understand will see this problem as a negative thing and will likely affect sales. I just hope its not true that the phone gets too hot to hold.