IF the 'BOLT ends up with battery life similar to or slightly worse than an EVO...

Motorola did it with the Bionic and Atrix. (they both have 1930 mAh batteries).

What I'm saying is that I don't think it's possible to fit a 1900mAh battery in the space where the current 1400mAh battery is. Weren't the bionic/atrix designed to hold such a large battery in the first place?
 
I just hope to get 12 hours with moderate use, I dont sync much, and a few calls/text/emails throughout the day with the occasional web browsing and a rare game here and there. I have no problem buying an extended battery to get a full days use with heavy usage but I refuse to buy one to get a day of normal usage, I am already planning other options if the battery life is that bad. My X will last me 2 days with normal usage and the extended battery and a full day with heavy use!
 
What I'm saying is that I don't think it's possible to fit a 1900mAh battery in the space where the current 1400mAh battery is. Weren't the bionic/atrix designed to hold such a large battery in the first place?

Yes, so why the sam hill can't HTC do the same thing?
 
Yes, so why the sam hill can't HTC do the same thing?

Adding a battery with that more power would require them to redesign the phone to add even that few extra millimeters of space. The Atrix/Bionic looked thicker than the Bolt.
 
Adding a battery with that more power would require them to redesign the phone to add even that few extra millimeters of space. The Atrix/Bionic looked thicker than the Bolt.

The Atrix is .03" thicker than the Inspire, and weighs 1.02 ounces less than the Inspire. Obviously screen size affects weight, but that's a pretty scanty difference in thickness. (I'm of course assuming the Inspire and the Thunderbolt will be roughly the same size)

I'm still not seeing why HTC couldn't do a better job with their batteries.
 
The Atrix is .03" thicker than the Inspire, and weighs 1.02 ounces less than the Inspire. Obviously screen size affects weight, but that's a pretty scanty difference in thickness. (I'm of course assuming the Inspire and the Thunderbolt will be roughly the same size)

I'm still not seeing why HTC couldn't do a better job with their batteries.

I'm just saying that re-designing at this point would require an entirely new body design just to fit that extra width -- even if just to expand the outer door to accommodate it.
 
I'm just saying that re-designing at this point would require an entirely new body design just to fit that extra width -- even if just to expand the outer door to accommodate it.

I don't think anyone is arguing that. We're all wondering why they don't design them better in the first place. The thunderbolt isn't a small phone, there should be room in there for a larger battery.
 
My Blackberry Tour's battery sucks as it is. I work at 12 hour shift at a hospital so I can understand if sometimes its losing power due to radio searching, but unplugging it at 5PM and plugging it back in at 8AM its usually dead or 10%. So I can deal with ****ty batteries. Hell I'll just bring a USB cable to work.
So you don't really *work* 12 hours. :D
 
Also keep in mind the iPhone 4 does it with what I believe is a 1420 mAh battery.

iPhone does a good job b/c they totally control everything -- OS, design, parts, etc.

They have a smaller screen for that reason and not to mention their OS doesn't have any active widgets or on-screen updates. It also closes applications after you exit them instead of leaving them running. These together often times help battery life immensely.

I could be wrong, but I also think that GSM vs CDMA there is a power difference in how it searches cellular sites and what not.
 
iPhone does a good job b/c they totally control everything -- OS, design, parts, etc.

They have a smaller screen for that reason and not to mention their OS doesn't have any active widgets or on-screen updates. It also closes applications after you exit them instead of leaving them running. These together often times help battery life immensely.

I could be wrong, but I also think that GSM vs CDMA there is a power difference in how it searches cellular sites and what not.

This is true.. and its also one reason why I preferred the push notifications system on the iphone in comparison to Android. Some will disagree im sure but the notifications were far quicker than anything I have on my Evo.. and the few apps that DO claim push capabilities aside from gmail seem to really just use polling cycles to me. It's like with my ipod touch and my evo... I have echofan for twitter on the touch and tweetissimo on the evo. Both have "push" notifications but echofan sends an update pretty much immediately upon getting a mention or a direct message. Takes the evo like 3-5 minutes to get that same notification.

There are SOME apps that you can use doing true multitasking on IOS, although not many. But even still, the battery saving on the iphone is just great honestly. The display size doesnt make too much of a difference as when I look at my batt stats, display is closer to the bottom. It's the Android system that sucks all of the power. Honestly I think Android could still stand to be streamlined a bit more when it comes to power consumption.
 
Push notifications still need some work on Android. I'm not sure if it's the fault of Android or some cruddy programming, but even in Froyo, there are a lot of apps that claim to have push notifications that I've found do not always work very well.
 
Push notifications still need some work on Android. I'm not sure if it's the fault of Android or some cruddy programming, but even in Froyo, there are a lot of apps that claim to have push notifications that I've found do not always work very well.

Facebook being the perfect example. Sometimes I get notifications.. sometimes I dont.
 

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