[Instruction] How to get a new phone and keep (legacy) Unlimited Data on Verizon

[diesteldorf]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

Question I have on step 7 is somebody told me you can have a line with no device and Verizon will charge you $10/mo. Is that correct? Then you wouldn't have to get a tablet.

They are probably just adding a Dummy ESN to your account which you can do online by using 13800000400 when it asks you for the device ID of the phone.

Also, $10 to add a tablet, $20 to add a Jetpack, and $30 to add a basic line as the rates when someone has a SHARE EVERYTHING plan.
I don't think it's possible to add a tablet to a Nationwide plan as a single line, for less than $30 for 2 GB per month, but I could be wrong.

 

[dpham00]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

Wouldn't you
1. Get a new line #3 and a new subsidized smartphone with that line (call it phone C).
2. Swap phone C with phone on line #1 (call it phone A).
3. Transfer the upgrade from line #1 to line #3 to get a new phone (call it phone D)
4. Swap phone D with phone on line #2 (call it phone B)
5. Transfer upgrade from line #2 to line #3 to get another new phone (call it phone E)
6. Sell phone E
7. Get a tablet (Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, $189 on ebay) to put on line #3 to get the monthly price down to $10/mo. Hotspots are $20/mo, dumb phones are $30/mo.

Start:
Line #1: Phone A
Line #2: Phone B
Line #3: Phone C

End
Line #1: Phone C
Line #2: Phone D
Line #3: either Phone A or B or a tablet or nothing if they let you.
Extra Phone E sold

Question I have on step 7 is somebody told me you can have a line with no device and Verizon will charge you $10/mo. Is that correct? Then you wouldn't have to get a tablet.

If you have unlimited unthrottled 4GLTE, then you are on the family plan, but share everything plan. The family plan does not have the option for tablets or hot spots. You can add a dummy phone to the line to pay $10 plus taxes and fees

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

 

[androidluvr2]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

I don't think it's possible to add a tablet to a Nationwide plan as a single line, for less than $30 for 2 GB per month, but I could be wrong.

I just tried to add a tablet to my Nationwide plan and it tried to put me on Share Everything and would not give me the option to add it to my current plan. It may be something they can do in store or over the phone, but you can't do it online anymore.

It was $30 for 2GB per month for a tablet month-to-month, no contract service.

 

[androidluvr2]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

The family plan does not have the option for tablets or hot spots.

Ok, that makes sense as to why online if I tried to add a tablet it tried to force me to share everything. I guess you could open a separate account with only the tablet on it, data only account. It is $30 for 4GB of data. Would they let you do that?

 

[androidluvr2]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

to get the monthly price down to $10/mo. Hotspots are $20/mo, dumb phones are $30/mo.

This is a Share Everything Plan. There is no unlimited data option with a Share Everything Plan so there is no problem with upgrades. None of what we are discussing here applies to a Share Everything Plan.

you can have a line with no device and Verizon will charge you $10/mo. Is that correct?

That is correct if you are on a Nationwide Family Share Plan, which is what we are discussing here.

 

[diesteldorf]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

Sure, they'd be happy to add another device to your account. Just tell them you want to keep it separate from your Nationwide Family Share Plan.
And thanks for pointing out that it may be a better deal to put a tablet on a new share everything plan if it is on a single line.
It used to be $30 for 2 GB of Data but under Share Everything it would be $30 for 4 GB + $10 to add the tablet=$40

 

[dpham00]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

Ok, that makes sense as to why online if I tried to add a tablet it tried to force me to share everything. I guess you could open a separate account with only the tablet on it, data only account. It is $30 for 4GB of data. Would they let you do that?

If you get only tablets on your plan , you can get that plan, $30 for 4GB of data, up to 10 tablets. No smartphones are allowed on the plan. You would also have to pay $10 line charge

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[dpham00]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

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[dpham00]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

You can also mix hot spots and tablets. Hit spots have a $20 per month line access charge.


Sorry for the multiple posts, tapatalk won't let me edit posts and add pictures which are forum hosted for some reason
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[androidluvr2]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

You can also mix hot spots and tablets. Hit spots have a $20 per month line access charge.

Can you tether your phone to your tablet? I know you can tether your tablet to your phone, but can you do it the other way around?

 

[diesteldorf]

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Can you tether your phone to your tablet? I know you can tether your tablet to your phone, but can you do it the other way around?

Yes, tablets can be used as a hotspot for other devices. I would never do that personally, since I have unlimited data on my 4G phone and can tether other devices for free or by adding the $30 4G mobile hotspot feature to my plan--if I want to play nice.

However, it would be beneficial to someone that had a 4G tablet and a 3G only smartphone since the tablet could allow the 3g smartphone to get the benefit of 4G speeds.

 

[dpham00]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

Can you tether your phone to your tablet? I know you can tether your tablet to your phone, but can you do it the other way around?

Yes, it can


" Here's what you get with Share Everything Plans:

Unlimited Talk for all devices on your account. No more worries about overage charges.
Unlimited Text1 for all devices on your account. Send as many text, picture and video messages as you want.
Shareable Data for all the devices on your account. Select how much you'll need, and then share it with up to 10 devices.
Mobile Hotspot2 is included on all capable devices. Connect your device and share your data allowance with multiple Wi-Fi-enabled devices.
Connect up to 10 devices. Choose which devices you'd like to connect, and then share your minutes, messages and data.
Included With All Plans:

No Domestic Roaming or Long-Distance Charges. Coverage not available everywhere.
Calling Features. Basic Voice Mail with Message-Waiting Indicator, Caller ID, Call Waiting, 3-Way Calling, Call Forwarding and No Answer/Busy Transfer.
Access to personal email3 and corporate email4 (using Exchange ActiveSync? or Lotus Notes Traveler) is included with data allowance, if supported by your device. Data charges apply.
Plans for Accounts with Only Basic Devices or Only Data Devices:

Share Talk, Text and/or Data for all devices on your account.
Data Only Plan - Data overage is $15 per 1 GB of data if you go over your plan allowance.
700-Minute Plan - Pay As You Go messaging rates apply on plans without a messaging allowance or pay $10 for 1,000 messages per line. Pay As You Go data rate is $1.99/MB and applies to basic phones on plans without a data allowance. Personal email is available for an additional $5 per month for basic phones on the 700-minute plan. Voice overage is 45? per minute. Data overage is $15 per 300 MB.
Manage and monitor your data usage:

Log in to My Verizon Online and My Verizon Mobile to see your current usage, as well as past usage.
From your wireless device, dial #DATA (#3282) and press the Call button/icon.
Receive free data usage alerts via text messaging and/or email to notify you when you're nearing or have exceeded your data allowance.
Set limits on data use for each of your family members and more with Usage Controls.
Change your data allowance anytime at My Verizon without extending your contract.


Did You Know?
Verizon Wireless data devices average between 1 and 2 GB of data per month.
Check out the Share Everything Calculator to figure out which plan may work for you.

Additional Information
Plan minutes are for domestic calls from within the Nationwide Rate and Coverage Area; see Voice Coverage Map. See Global Services for information on Data Roaming. See Data Coverage Map for Coverage Areas for other services. For Additional Plan Information, see Customer Agreement.

1 - Unlimited Messaging is for sending and receiving (i) text messages (also known as SMS) and multimedia messages (also known as MMS) - including picture, video, voice, audio, location, group and contact messages - in the United States; (ii) text and multimedia messages sent via email; (iii) text and multimedia messages with customers of wireless carriers on participating networks in Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands. Premium Messaging programs not included.
2 - Wi-Fi (encryption) and Internet security measures are recommended (e.g., firewall software and current patches for operating systems and applications). Overage charges are billed per your data package.
3 - Personal email includes popular Internet-based email accounts, including Yahoo!? Mail, AOL? Mail, Gmail?, Windows Live? Hotmail? and Verizon.net.
4 - Get access to server-based Corporate Email that connects using BlackBerry Enterprise Server, Good? for Enterprise or a similar secure connection for an additional $15 per month."

https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...re-everything-allincluded.html&token=KKIeQzwU
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[dss2000]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

This is a Share Everything Plan. There is no unlimited data option with a Share Everything Plan so there is no problem with upgrades. None of what we are discussing here applies to a Share Everything Plan.

That is correct if you are on a Nationwide Family Share Plan, which is what we are discussing here.

Hmm, thanks. I had seen dummy lines mentioned but wasn't familiar with how to use it. I had a separate $30/mo SHARE EVERYTHING plan with a dumb phone that my wife uses (dumb phones have better battery life, she uses mostly talk minutes). I started a new line on that account to get a new smartphone which would have added $40/mo, but then I swapped that phone with a used Tab 2 7.0 (make sure its Verizon 4G version) that I got on ebay for $190 and it dropped my monthly payment to $10/mo. I then swapped the new smartphone with the phone on my Unlimited date line. Only caveat is that new policy Verizon just introduced won't let you use one of the upgrades on the Tablet like to get a new phone in 2 years. Wonder if you could towards the end of the 2 years put a smartphone back onto the tablet line and the use the upgrade to get a new smartphone. Or just cancel that line, get a new smartphone on a new line and downgrade it to a tablet again.

 

[dss2000]

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Can you tether your phone to your tablet? I know you can tether your tablet to your phone, but can you do it the other way around?

Yes I think so, the Samsung Tab 2 (7.0) can be a tethered hotspot. After I changed my MiFi to the Tab to save $10/mo and realized this I was thinking "why would you ever want to just use a MiFi". I guess it's smaller and more portable but it will cost you $240 over 24 months for that convenience. I guess the upfront cost is a little higher. Used 4G Mifi are about $40-50 on ebay whereas the Tab 2 is about $190. Guess it just depends on your personal use and situation. But if your smartphone is on an unlimited plan and the Tab is on a measured tier plan I don't think you'd want to us the Tab as a tether for your phone because you'd be using up measured data.

 

[dss2000]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

Yes, tablets can be used as a hotspot for other devices. I would never do that personally, since I have unlimited data on my 4G phone and can tether other devices for free or by adding the $30 4G mobile hotspot feature to my plan--if I want to play nice.
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If you add a hotspot feature to phone on an unlimited data plan would it change your plan and lose the unlimited data?

 

[androidluvr2]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

Wonder if you could towards the end of the 2 years put a smartphone back onto the tablet line and the use the upgrade to get a new smartphone. Or just cancel that line, get a new smartphone on a new line and downgrade it to a tablet again.

I would start a separate thread about that since it is specific to Share Everything and not unlimited data. I don't know the answer or I would answer.

 

[androidluvr2]

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If you add a hotspot feature to phone on an unlimited data plan would it change your plan and lose the unlimited data?

No, but I don't think you can do it online any more, you have to call.

However, why would you add it when you can get the functionality on most devices free? Some you have to root to get it others you don't, depends on the device.

 

[dss2000]

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However, why would you add it when you can get the functionality on most devices free? Some you have to root to get it others you don't, depends on the device.

Maybe I'm just paranoid that if I activate it or download an app or root it to allow tethering that they would use it as an excuse to cancel my unlimited plan. I'm very protective of my unlimited data plan.

 

[androidluvr2]

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Maybe I'm just paranoid that if I activate it or download an app or root it to allow tethering that they would use it as an excuse to cancel my unlimited plan. I'm very protective of my unlimited data plan.

The rooting is not an issue. There is nothing about rooting that could ever cause you to lose unlimited.

As for tethering, first off, there are ways for them to know you are doing it, yes. ATT can so Verizon can. Hundreds of us on this forum do it all the time on Verizon and have kept unlimited data. They would at least need to warn us we couldn't do it any more because of the course and conduct of the parties before they took it away. I assure you that Verizon's lawyers like ATT's lawyers are smart enough to advise to give a warning first. There are people on this forum who have used 800+ GB of data in a month tethering to their phones and never even got a warning from Verizon to stop.

Second, there are ways to mask that you are tethering if you are really worried about it.

 

[dpham00]

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No, but I don't think you can do it online any more, you have to call.

However, why would you add it when you can get the functionality on most devices free? Some you have to root to get it others you don't, depends on the device.

Using mhs when the plan doesn't allow it may be a violation of TOS. I personally just add it on the days I use it on vacation or whatever. It is a buck a day. You can add and delete it online using the my Verizon app. I know many use the free options though



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