Nexus 6P Bending and Breaking Thread

[booboolala2000]

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Exactly. The glass screen is as much of the structure as the metal unibody. So after scratching, cooking then breaking the glass, the integrity of the phone changes. You would think a guy that does this "for a living" would be more scientific. The video is the actual joke.

 

[andy a]

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Bull****. Check this
https://twitter.com/luckyankit/status/660052058326720513

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How do I view the video here as all I see is a man about to bend the 6P but there doesn't seem to be a play button?

 

[Wildo6882]

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As many people have said already, the screen cracking is what made the frame so fragile. Do that with an uncracked screen, and you'll have much different results. Also, If GG4 is slightly under a 7, of course anything 7 and above will scratch it. Especially on a hard pointed shank like he had. And the pressure he applied is what most likely caused the screen crack. Anyone ever seen something designed to break your car window when submerged in water? Looks eerily similar to what he was using.

Nothing about this video shows me anything close to what normal use is going to be for me. This guy is a jack a s s who's making money off of fear. I'm not worried about the strength of the phone. And if something more was to come out, that's what Nexus Protect is for!

 

[TrekkieMonster]

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If you put your phone in your back pocket and expect nothing to happen, maybe it's time to adjust your expectations. Bad things will happen.

With all due respect, I've put my smart phones (various Blackberries, iPhones, Samsungs and LGs) in my back pocket for the past 8 years or so, and have never had "bad things happen". I do not make a habit of sitting on them, but it has happened on occasion when I forgot the phone was there, and have never had a bending problem.

That said, I take this video with something of a grain of salt and already plan to try and be extra cautious with this phone due to its size (especially its length), but I still hope it's not going to bend just because I carry it in my back pocket.

 

[fabian bonifacio]

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Exactly I carry my nexus 5 without a case in my back pocket, and after all this time my phone is perfectly fine

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[mookiekillsit]

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LOL The cracked glass will compromise the entire structure of the phone. This is simple physics..... and I work in IT. Derp

 

[AnnDroid]

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I hope you're right as I was just about to order the 6P but this has thrown me a bit!

Agreed. I've not had to worry about my Nexus 6 - at all.

 

[SteveISU]

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Do many people light their phones on fire? I can see doing a line of coke off it, but not using it to prepare heroin. "In my next durability test I'm going to see how far the phone fly's off a tee using my Worth Legit ASA. The iphone 6s+ almost went 250ft, lets see how the Nexus does."

 

[madcrabs]

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That video was brutal. I literally JUST received my phone and was in the middle of setting it up when I saw this post. Churned my stomach.

Anyone else with a graphite 6p notice any lines or marks on the backs of their phones? I just unboxed and there are faint lines. I don't want to call them scratches, you can't feel them, but you can see them in certain light. Kinda sad.

 

[nrfitchett4]

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It's a little bit worrisome - the guy has been doing tests like this on phones for a while now. It's not just some random dude, he's got like 75k subscribers.

What I am thinking is that the cracked screen contributed to the ease at which the phone was able to be bent. Screens provide a significant amount of rigidity to a smartphone. Cracked screen = easy to bend for many devices.

At any rate, we need another couple of tests before any conclusions are made, but this isn't a comforting video...how many days do you have before returning to Google?

Exactly. This was his first time using his hardness bits and he cracked the screen testing it. There is a video showing GG3 vs GG4 and the guy had to put a lot of pressure on the panel before it finally shattered.
I'm a little concerned, but not cancel my order concerned. I don't put phones in my back pocket and I take it out of my front pocket before sitting down.

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[nrfitchett4]

Re: 6P bend and scratch test, not good viewing!

I looked at his iPhone 6+ bend test and he didnt crack the glass there, before trying to bend it. So its not a great comparison.

On the flipside, the point could be made that the iPhone screen didnt crack under the "same" conditions that the N6P screen did ("same" in quotes because without measurements its impossible to re-create the same conditions)

I bet if he cracked the iPhone screen before trying the bend test, it too would bend....if the only thing holding the phone together is a thin piece of aluminum, of course its going to bend.

Didn't watch iPhone video, but he said that was first scratch test with new tools, he sliced through the screen with the 8 and the 9, very deep scratches. I'm curious if any phone screen would hold up to that.

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[tech_head]

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Didn't watch iPhone video, but he said that was first scratch test with new tools, he sliced through the screen with the 8 and the 9, very deep scratches. I'm curious if any phone screen would hold up to that.

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So here is the Gorilla Glass 4 spec sheet.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/...Corning Gorilla Glass 4_PI Sheet_090315_E.pdf

I didn't expect the phone to survive a scratch test above a 6-7 since the screen protectors I use are tempered glass and a 9.
His test was not scientific in the least.
He has no measurement of how many PSI of force he was using during the scratch or the bend.
Also you cannot check bend resistance on a device where you have already compromised the structure of the device.
With the screen cracked and heated, well.

Also the heat test. No specifics, heat until you see damage?
It should be heat for a specific amount of time to a specific temperature.

This guy knows nothing about scientific testing methods.
Theatrics.....

 

[Alex98]

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Didn't watch iPhone video, but he said that was first scratch test with new tools, he sliced through the screen with the 8 and the 9, very deep scratches. I'm curious if any phone screen would hold up to that.

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Some old Vertu phones use saphir glass for the screen. So they will hold up until above 9.

Other than that, no. All gorilla glass screen are under 7 of hardness on the Mohs scale and it's the same for the actual iPhone's screens.

 

[mogelijk]

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So here is the Gorilla Glass 4 spec sheet.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/...Corning Gorilla Glass 4_PI Sheet_090315_E.pdf

I didn't expect the phone to survive a scratch test above a 6-7 since the screen protectors I use are tempered glass and a 9.
His test was not scientific in the least.
He has no measurement of how many PSI of force he was using during the scratch or the bend.
Also you cannot check bend resistance on a device where you have already compromised the structure of the device.
With the screen cracked and heated, well.

Also the heat test. No specifics, heat until you see damage?
It should be heat for a specific amount of time to a specific temperature.

This guy knows nothing about scientific testing methods.
Theatrics.....

Some interesting points there. At least one thing that I saw, the "softening point" of GG4 is 912 degrees C. A lighter, such as he is using, should be able to produce a flame of 900 degrees C (butane can burn at 1900 degrees C, but there are a lot of variables involved) -- so it may well be with how he put the flame against the glass, and how long he kept it there, he actually did soften the glass. And with the strain point only about 600 degrees C, he definitely seemed to have hit that temperature. Of course, in normal use, it is unlikely most of us would ever subject our screens to a similar temperature.

And the lack of specifics is also true. With the Samsung I watched him test, he kept moving the flame, back and forth, an inch or more along the screen -- definitely reducing the time any section of screen was subjected to the flame. On the 6P, it seemed like he held the flame constantly against the same sport of screen for several seconds, until the screen turned white. He really needs to do a better job of setting up a standard set of tests that can be exactly replicated.

He should also not do scratch tests well above what the screen is rated for -- maybe test it up to the rating or until when he starts getting scratches, whichever comes first. It stands to reason if the hardness 7 will scratch the glass, then 8 and 9 will scratch it or worse.

 

[Alex98]

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He should also not do scratch tests well above what the screen is rated for -- maybe test it up to the rating or until when he starts getting scratches, whichever comes first. It stands to reason if the hardness 7 will scratch the glass, then 8 and 9 will scratch it or worse.

Actually, that's how Mohs scale is supposed to work.
If a material is scratched by an other material that is rated 7 on the Mohs scale, then your material is under 7 for sure. No point to test 8 or 9 which will risk to brake it.

 

[libraryclg]

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The laser auto focus is not blocked. The opening to the charging cable port is too small. I contacted them and they said they are going to send me a new hard plastic ring that will be modified to fit. I actually took a small file and just filed it down a little bit on the top and bottom and the charging cable now fits just fine (Shouldn't have to do that out the box new but I know test block phones for case MFG's are not always accurate to the actual phone) I then used some black nail polish from my daughter to cover it up (after you file it becomes white) it wasn't a lot.. it BARELY fit with some effort but filing it down just a hair on each side and the cable fits with no problem.

Outside of that everything else fits and looks great...

Amazon.com: Nexus 6P Case, Verus [High Pro Shield][Steel Silver] - [Brushed Metal Texture][Drop Protection][Heavy Duty][Minimalistic][Slim Fit] - For Huawei Nexus 6P 5.7" Devices (2015): Cell Phones & Accessories

You just answered the question I was going to ask about that case. I have the same issues and contacted Verus about it already.

 

[mayconvert]

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^ It does have a Nexus and Huawei logo on the back. I am not worried about bending much since i don't put a phone in my back pocket and have a nexus case for it which although soft should hold it firmly in place. I am more worried about scratches though since a good quality screen protector is still some days away from reaching me.

Edit: It appears that the first few seconds of the video show a phone without a logo and then it all of a sudden appears

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The nexus symbol is there throughout the entire video. It doesn't just appear. View it thru a better monitor or better phone screen.

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[sociolab]

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Of course it's going to bend once you break the glass and apply heat. Do some searching. There is another video of a bend test with an intact phone. It doesn't bend.

 

[ReggieTee]

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This is so idiotic and stupid. You hear the screen up with a lighter and are surprised that it bends?

 

[libraryclg]

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New test: let's see if these smartphones can survive being hit with a baseball bat!

SPOILER ALERT: They won't.