Pixel 2 XL Screen Discussion

[anon(596177)]

I don’t know what Samsung display uses P-OLED, but the Note 8 and the S8s don’t use it.

Any screen that has a curve to it (ie the S8 and Note8) uses a pOLED display, Samsung just groups them all in the AMOLED (their own naming convention) category. They do this because a plastic substrate is bendable, where a glass substrate is not.

Even most phones that dont have a curved display are using pOLED screens, mainly because they are cheaper to make and thinner than OLED screens with a glass substrate. You are getting confused because you had never seen pOLED used to describe the screen until now.

https://www.androidauthority.com/poled-vs-amoled-792869/

Some reading if you are interested in more about the tech.

 

[anon(596177)]

double post.

 

[polbit]

FedEx just delivered my 2XL an hour ago, and honestly I like the screen more than my 7 Plus next to it. If it wasn't for these forums, I wouldn't even think twice about the screen. This phone rocks!!

 

[osubeavs728]

Hey hey now. We'll have none of that rational thought around here!!

Seriously though, this is very very true and well stated. If someone hates the screen, don't buy it (or return it) and move on. Others who may like the screen (or don't mind it) will enjoy it just fine - because as you state - it's a personal device and what looks good or acceptable is SUBJECTIVE. Each person decides what's important to them and then can decide based on their personal opinions. Some of the reports are not encouraging, but then other reports see very little issues, so I will make my own determination and not make others' opinions my own.

Issues in forums (and in blogs) take on this echo chamber effect and get amplified to a deafening level sometimes. It's important sometimes to just step back and make your own rational, personal first hand decision.

But I like wasting my time arguing with people about something I don't intend on buying!

 

[henderjr]

I think it's all just design choice by google as far as the muted/washed out look and I'd be willing to bet there will be multiple display options in a future update. Watch these two youtube videos. Looks really, really good IMO on my 2XL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO01J-M3g0U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkggXE5e2yk

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/77c21a/if_you_want_to_see_the_vivid_colors_the_p2xl/

 

[Aquila]

I don’t know what Samsung display uses P-OLED, but the Note 8 and the S8s don’t use it.

They both do. LG and Samsung LED displays are all AMOLED and they're all P-OLED.

 

[prakash99]

FedEx just delivered my 2XL an hour ago, and honestly I like the screen more than my 7 Plus next to it. If it wasn't for these forums, I wouldn't even think twice about the screen. This phone rocks!!

Looks like I'm not the only odd one out... Lol!

But the blue tint does exist. It is besides the point that it does not bother me. I have never noticed it while using it. I only see when I am deliberately looking for it by tilting the phone.

 

[Stang68]

Seems like this is all picking up steam in the press, likely to the point that Google will issue a software update. Looking forward to getting my 2XL and seeing this for myself. I'm likely going to enjoy using it, I'm not too particular about my screens. Maybe I have bad eyesight lol

 

[rickms80]

You don't have to buy anything. Google made a big deal about the color tuning of the displays. It's not people guessing, it's right from the horses mouth.

Had no idea the red in chrome pinwheel shortcut was supposed to be more maroon.. Thanks Pixel 2XL!

 

[bcolton]

From the article, the plastic doesn't make a difference; however, Samsung's use of AMOLED (ACTIVE) does matter.

So the "Active" provides a charge at the pixel level and LG provides a charge in rows of pixels. Seems like the active is giving a more consistent charge and pixel brightness output.

 

[bcolton]

From the article, the plastic doesn't make a difference (they are both using); however, Samsung's use of AMOLED (ACTIVE) does matter.

So the "Active" provides a charge at the pixel level and LG provides a charge in rows of pixels. Seems like the active is giving a more consistent charge and pixel brightness output.

 

[dejanh]

Any screen that has a curve to it (ie the S8 and Note8) uses a pOLED display, Samsung just groups them all in the AMOLED (their own naming convention) category. They do this because a plastic substrate is bendable, where a glass substrate is not.

This is not correct. Glass substrate is bendable as well, but it is more difficult. The Android Authority article needs some backup to go along with their claim that Samsung is using plastic substrate for their panels, because Samsung was adding curves to their displays and was for sure bending glass substrate, if not still, until very recently. Whether they still do it is the real question, and if not, then they are years ahead of LG.

Anyway, my point was just that it is not correct that glass substrate cannot bend. Back to the regularly scheduled programming now of Pixel 2 XL display being bad

Edit: Forget my comment above. We can all learn something. Looks like it is not plastic substrate though...

https://www.oled-info.com/samsung-youm

 

[JHBThree]

I don’t know what Samsung display uses P-OLED, but the Note 8 and the S8s don’t use it.

Yes, they do. Samsung switched to POLED with the S8.

 

[JHBThree]

Had no idea the red in chrome pinwheel shortcut was supposed to be more maroon.. Thanks Pixel 2XL!

That's poor design more than anything. If it's showing that color and the displays is properly tuned, then that is the actual color of that red.

 

[JHBThree]

From the article, the plastic doesn't make a difference (they are both using); however, Samsung's use of AMOLED (ACTIVE) does matter.

So the "Active" provides a charge at the pixel level and LG provides a charge in rows of pixels. Seems like the active is giving a more consistent charge and pixel brightness output.

LG's displays are active matrix OLED too...

 

[paradroid]

This thread reminds me of the Kindle Paperwhite forum when it first came out. People complained for pages and pages about a slight shadow at the bottom of the screen.

I got my Paperwhite 3 years ago and did notice slight shadows at the bottom but have read 200 + books on it and never once thought about it after the first few days. Last night I looked for the shadow and it still there.

I am thinking if I did not read the paperwhite reviews and forums I would never have noticed the shadows.

Unless I am seeing wonky colors on my xl 2 while using it normally, I'll be keeping it.

I have a Galaxy Note Edge (same as note 5 but with one sloped edge) - 3 years old now. I just tested extreme angle viewing on it and I do see a color and brightness change when I view it from extreme angles. I never even knew this phone had this "flaw". I have been 100% happy with the Note Edges screen so if the XL 2 can match it, I'll be happy. However, I have a feeling when viewing normally, the XL 2 screen will look even crisper than the Edge.

A week to go. I will see...

 

[JHBThree]

This is not correct. Glass substrate is bendable as well, but it is more difficult. The Android Authority article needs some backup to go along with their claim that Samsung is using plastic substrate for their panels, because Samsung was adding curves to their displays and was for sure bending glass substrate, if not still, until very recently. Whether they still do it is the real question, and if not, then they are years ahead of LG.

Anyway, my point was just that it is not correct that glass substrate cannot bend. Back to the regularly scheduled programming now of Pixel 2 XL display being bad

Nope they switched to plastic. Part of their attempt to integrate the fingerprint sensor under glass.

 

[johnnysd]

Four days ago, this issue was relegated to a few comments in forums here and elsewhere. Today there are multiple articles detailing the issue and twitter is a-buzz. I think there is 100% chance that Google will issue a software fix that will address the issues as best as possible. I went to Verizon yesterday and just used it like normal for 30 mins and after a while the display just looked good, and much much better than my note 4. The blue shift is way less noticeable on the V30, so there is definitely tunings that will address both the washed out (likely more accurate) colors and the blue shift. Google made an active decision for this look and it appears that it is backfiring in a large and public way, expect a update that turns vividness up to 11/10 shortly.

 

[seb1509]

This thread reminds me of the Kindle Paperwhite forum when it first came out. People complained for pages and pages about a slight shadow at the bottom of the screen.

I got my Paperwhite 3 years ago and did notice slight shadows at the bottom but have read 200 + books on it and never once thought about it after the first few days. Last night I looked for the shadow and it still there.

I am thinking if I did not read the paperwhite reviews and forums I would never have noticed the shadows.

Unless I am seeing wonky colors on my xl 2 while using it normally, I'll be keeping it.

I have a Galaxy Note Edge (same as note 5 but with one sloped edge) - 3 years old now. I just tested extreme angle viewing on it and I do see a color and brightness change when I view it from extreme angles. I never even knew this phone had this "flaw". I have been 100% happy with the Note Edges screen so if the XL 2 can match it, I'll be happy. However, I have a feeling when viewing normally, the XL 2 screen will look even crisper than the Edge.

A week to go. I will see...

Not trying to be rude. But people showing comment these type of things until they buy an 2XL and use it for a bit. This is not a slight issue when viewed at extreme angles.

In day to day use you will see the display color temperature change a lot.

For example i lay my phone on the table and frequently turn it on to change the music playing or send a quick test. In this angle my phone looks very blueish if I move my face it gets more yellowish and then blue again.

Or even when maneuvering to click things higher up on the screen. I see the screen have waves of blue or yellowish whites depending on the angle. It's there and it is distracting. More importantly for a hefty priced "upgrade" to last year's pixel.. it shouldn't have a worse display PERIOD

 

[openwheelracing]

I am looking at both Pixel and Pixel 2 in sRGB, and the Pixel 2 definitely has better colors. It is ever so slightly more vibrant without being cartoonish. So I think Pixel 2 screen is an upgrade. 2XL is probably an upgrade too except the blue tint issue which I doubt can be solved by software. I hope Google give us more color profiles so we can choose between sRGB or cartoon mode.

I do wonder, does sRGB yield better battery life?