Samsung's UI will always be better than stock

[Golfdriver97]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

One person's treasure is another person's trash. I'm honestly glad Samsung has done so well. We may not even be discussing this OS without them. However, I think my Note 5 is going to be my last Samsung. I didn't care for all the extra features that came with it, and helped me to appreciate my Nexus/Pixel even more.

 

[Umbrokhan]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

ok no problem fair enough
most of the Samsung app's i don't use, but i like to have options.
and i will think about stock android in the future. let see how Google uses AI chip and AR.

 

[garak0410]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

One person's treasure is another person's trash. I'm honestly glad Samsung has done so well. We may not even be discussing this OS without them. However, I think my Note 5 is going to be my last Samsung. I didn't care for all the extra features that came with it, and helped me to appreciate my Nexus/Pixel even more.

I agree Samsung has made some good strides in their Samsung Experience (TouchWiz) and I loved the Note 8 but I simply prefer the performance and the camera on the Pixel 2 XL.

 

[recDNA]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

Every Android phone I've ever owned flew like lightening the first month but after about a year they lag more and more. I've never owned a Pixel but I've owned several Samsung and Moto phones. I used to alternate back and forth due to features I liked. My LG phone also super fast for about 6 months now lags like a Samsung or Moto. I suspect it is an Android thing. As new OS comes out apps are updated yet old phone specs don't change. Gradually phone just can't hack it. My V20 was the fastest phone ever but now it isn't much faster than my Note 3.

 

[ZOMMBIE1]

Another reason I don't care to have the latest version of Android right away. It might take up until Android Q to come close to this

https://www.phonearena.com/news/16-...day-to-day-Android-experience-better_id102137

 

[cpaight]

Stock Android will never have all that because not everyone wants or needs it....you simply add on the features you actually want instead of having them all pre-crammed on your phone.

 

[Mike Dee]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

Every Android phone I've ever owned flew like lightening the first month but after about a year they lag more and more. I've never owned a Pixel but I've owned several Samsung and Moto phones. I used to alternate back and forth due to features I liked. My LG phone also super fast for about 6 months now lags like a Samsung or Moto. I suspect it is an Android thing. As new OS comes out apps are updated yet old phone specs don't change. Gradually phone just can't hack it. My V20 was the fastest phone ever but now it isn't much faster than my Note 3.

I don't use it every day but my V20 still rocks

 

[andytiedye]

Stock Android = No S-Pen
No way!

 

[Aquila]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

Every Android phone I've ever owned flew like lightening the first month but after about a year they lag more and more. I've never owned a Pixel but I've owned several Samsung and Moto phones. I used to alternate back and forth due to features I liked. My LG phone also super fast for about 6 months now lags like a Samsung or Moto. I suspect it is an Android thing. As new OS comes out apps are updated yet old phone specs don't change. Gradually phone just can't hack it. My V20 was the fastest phone ever but now it isn't much faster than my Note 3.

This rant isn't against or to you, just quoting one of the main points above.

I'd have to recommend trying a phone that doesn't suck. Not trying to be rude to the other OEM's, but at this point there's nothing but Pixel or iPhone that I can possibly recommend in good faith to anyone that's not looking for something VERY specific that the good phones can't offer. Samsung, Moto, LG, OnePlus, Essential, Huawei, etc, etc... all too many compromises to justify spending a cent on them IMO. And "Nokia" and "BlackBerry", unfortunately their fans can't admit that those dreams died prior to the rights to their names being sold to the fakes and phonies that currently operate under those names. I'm really hoping that someone steps up to compete and to give us choices again, because right now it's boring ... but if you actually give a damn about performance, over time - more RAM isn't the answer, it's not mucking up the software. Right now no one is taking that game seriously except Google and Apple.

While we're on the things that the Sammy Giant has been passed on...

And if you actually care about privacy and security and are buying something that's not direct from Google and Apple... well, then you don't know what you're talking about on your priority of "privacy and security".

Camera... Samsung is competing, but currently being edged out by Google and Apple.

Displays, Apple is still (has been for 3 years now) the best displays on the market - and on pure accuracy, LG (V30 only) and Google both just passed Samsung.

Fast updates? Only Google and Apple are even trying. Obviously they have an advantage ... but Google makes it VERY easy for OEM's to get a major OS update out within days of a public release ... but not one OEM has even tried.

Now, that isn't to say that Samsung and Moto and HTC aren't making great phones. They are, especially Samsung. But they're great for a few months, or a year, as indicated above, that phone is out of date, probably lagging, typically all but abandoned by the OEM and has been trounced on progress that it could have held its own among... if the OEM had decided to spend even a little bit of effort supporting their existing devices rather than focusing only on getting the next phone out, ready or not.

 

[TheDonJ77]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

This rant isn't against or to you, just quoting one of the main points above.

I'd have to recommend trying a phone that doesn't suck. Not trying to be rude to the other OEM's, but at this point there's nothing but Pixel or iPhone that I can possibly recommend in good faith to anyone that's not looking for something VERY specific that the good phones can't offer. Samsung, Moto, LG, OnePlus, Essential, Huawei, etc, etc... all too many compromises to justify spending a cent on them IMO. And "Nokia" and "BlackBerry", unfortunately their fans can't admit that those dreams died prior to the rights to their names being sold to the fakes and phonies that currently operate under those names. I'm really hoping that someone steps up to compete and to give us choices again, because right now it's boring ... but if you actually give a damn about performance, over time - more RAM isn't the answer, it's not mucking up the software. Right now no one is taking that game seriously except Google and Apple.

While we're on the things that the Sammy Giant has been passed on...

And if you actually care about privacy and security and are buying something that's not direct from Google and Apple... well, then you don't know what you're talking about on your priority of "privacy and security".

Camera... Samsung is competing, but currently being edged out by Google and Apple.

Displays, Apple is still (has been for 3 years now) the best displays on the market - and on pure accuracy, LG (V30 only) and Google both just passed Samsung.

Fast updates? Only Google and Apple are even trying. Obviously they have an advantage ... but Google makes it VERY easy for OEM's to get a major OS update out within days of a public release ... but not one OEM has even tried.

Now, that isn't to say that Samsung and Moto and HTC aren't making great phones. They are, especially Samsung. But they're great for a few months, or a year, as indicated above, that phone is out of date, probably lagging, typically all but abandoned by the OEM and has been trounced on progress that it could have held its own among... if the OEM had decided to spend even a little bit of effort supporting their existing devices rather than focusing only on getting the next phone out, ready or not.

For the most part I agree with most of what you said, it's one of the reasons I have been pondering getting a Pixel XL2 to really try out for a few days and decide if I would keep it and sell my note 8 or just keep my note. I don't really dislike much of anything about the note but the lack of security updates on an unlocked device and no timetable on Oreo is troubling.

 

[Aquila]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

For the most part I agree with most of what you said, it's one of the reasons I have been pondering getting a Pixel XL2 to really try out for a few days and decide if I would keep it and sell my note 8 or just keep my note. I don't really dislike much of anything about the note but the lack of security updates on an unlocked device and no timetable on Oreo is troubling.

I was pretty sick to see OnePlus releasing 8.0 today instead of 8.1. I'm fully expecting Sammy to do the same thing. If Samsung would get their act together on software and possibly get rid of a few design issues (glass body, square camera lense, FPS location) I think they'd make one hell of an amazing device.

 

[TheDonJ77]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

I was pretty sick to see OnePlus releasing 8.0 today instead of 8.1. I'm fully expecting Sammy to do the same thing. If Samsung would get their act together on software and possibly get rid of a few design issues (glass body, square camera lense, FPS location) I think they'd make one hell of an amazing device.

Yeah, I just don't understand how a company as large as Samsung won't get serious about timely updates to their flagship devices. It's mind boggling

 

[Aquila]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

Yeah, I just don't understand how a company as large as Samsung won't get serious about timely updates to their flagship devices. It's mind boggling

It's because the vast majority of their customers don't care and because their revenue cycles are based on people buying more phones, not keeping the same phone for longer.

 

[TheDonJ77]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

It's because the vast majority of their customers don't care and because their revenue cycles are based on people buying more phones, not keeping the same phone for longer.

Valid point. I'm gonna look and see what the note 8 is selling for on swappa just in case. I know google will only give me 370 and that is way too low. My Note 8 is in mint condition if I decided to sell

 

[ZOMMBIE1]

Stock Android will never have all that because not everyone wants or needs it....you simply add on the features you actually want instead of having them all pre-crammed on your phone.

But stock Android slowly gets these features every year. Every Android update I see something that Samsung has already had for years already. And these features make it better they are not crammed they are just part of the UI if you need it it's there if not no need to use it. I'd rather have the option than nothing at all.

 

[Umbrokhan]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

my mum, sister, brother in law and friends don't care about fast updates or Security Patches. i only hear it on forum's, web sites, YouTube.
Note 8 is fully packed with features so why do i want a major update?
i don't care about Security Patches. NEWS channel just trying to scare us. never seen a virus on android unless it was a fake ad. try not to install APK files outside Playstore.
don't care if Google getting my data, privacy..because its to late. Google own's the YouTube, Gmail, so can't escape.

 

[davidnc]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

I love close to stock android phones over other phones.

Fast smooth performance.
Latest OS
Fast Security updates
Does not have a bunch of features I would never use . That I would just disable them since would be unable to delete.
No bloatware imo
No Duplicate Apps

I been using pretty much close to stock android for almost 5 years now. I don't think its boring. But as mentioned to each their own.
But I wont use anything but close to stock android from now on. I can understand why everyone does not feel this way.Use what makes you happy , its all good

 

[con5150]

The great thing about Android is the choice. I have really liked what Samsung has done over the last few years. A friend has the pixel XL and yeah it's really cool . I'm happy, he's happy , another had the LG V30 , pretty cool too.

 

[Aquila]

Re: i don't understand why people like Stock Android so much?

my mum, sister, brother in law and friends don't care about fast updates or Security Patches. i only hear it on forum's, web sites, YouTube.
Note 8 is fully packed with features so why do i want a major update?
i don't care about Security Patches. NEWS channel just trying to scare us. never seen a virus on android unless it was a fake ad. try not to install APK files outside Playstore.
don't care if Google getting my data, privacy..because its to late. Google own's the YouTube, Gmail, so can't escape.

The masses are right there with you with the same misconceptions and opinions... that's why Samsung sells so many phones, because they're making the phone that most people want and the things that they suck at .... most people don't care at all.

 

[Dooki]

Stock Android = No S-Pen
No way!

I have a note 8 tablet running paranoid Android. S open works perfectly. Just not with any of the horrible Samsung apps that came with the tablet, 4.2. S pen is hardware.