Screen protectors will stop the fingerprint reader from working: knock-out criterium?

[jlangner]

WinFutures is reporting that Samsung is going to sell PLASTIC screen protectors for the S10 series.

I read as well, probably cheaper but if upgrade may go tempered glass thru whitestone.

 

[dirt4444]

WinFutures is reporting that Samsung is going to sell PLASTIC screen protectors for the S10 series.

That might work as well. I just need to have a hard screen protector on my phone for drops, the film ones don't give enough protection.

 

[Rose4uKY]

Well I don't want some cheap protector on my phone either I would like to have the Whitestone glass one. But they're so expensive I'm worried if it doesn't get put on just right cuz I want it on perfect. I will wait till tomorrow and see maybe Samsung will announce they're going to have one already on the phone.

I'm just mad cuz I have to be at work at 2:30 in the afternoon and it starts at 11 a.m. which is to my time. Will I be able to watch a repeat of it? I'll get to watch the first 30 minutes of it on my way to work and it's tomorrow.

 

[tcdude]

Well I don't want some cheap protector on my phone either I would like to have the Whitestone glass one. But they're so expensive I'm worried if it doesn't get put on just right cuz I want it on perfect. I will wait till tomorrow and see maybe Samsung will announce they're going to have one already on the phone.

I'm just mad cuz I have to be at work at 2:30 in the afternoon and it starts at 11 a.m. which is to my time. Will I be able to watch a repeat of it? I'll get to watch the first 30 minutes of it on my way to work and it's tomorrow.

I'll be at work also they should have replays of the event on YouTube

 

[Rose4uKY]

I'll be at work also they should have replays of the event on YouTube

Cool! I should catch the 1st 25 - 30 minutes of it and will get to watch another 30 minutes on dinner break.

 

[dirt4444]

I missed the event but did they confirm anything new about the fingerprint scanner not working with most screen protectors? Or if it will be coming with one from Samsung?

 

[Vassili94]

Yeah, They are really Good! Pretty much the same price as Zagg, but way Better! I saw that they are having here that there is a giveaway as well.

 

[zipro]

Samsung are already selling their plastic ones here in Europe. In the US they’ve teamed up with Whitestone. However, the latter are expensive as h.

And no, there’s no screen protector pre-installed.

 

[Rose4uKY]

So I should try whitestone? Or maybe I'll call Zagg directly and see if their going to work or not, I just like how the kiosk they put them on for you. Whitestone is expensive and I know you get 2 in the box but I would need one for my husband also and if one gets messed up were screwed.

 

[dirt4444]

Nothing we don't already know but hopefully some other companies come out with different options. I'd prefer to see an install video for the Whitestone before committing to that. I don't mind spending that as long as it works perfectly.

https://bgr.com/2019/02/20/galaxy-s10-specs-screen-protector-problem/

 

[SpookDroid]

I missed the event but did they confirm anything new about the fingerprint scanner not working with most screen protectors? Or if it will be coming with one from Samsung?

Confirmed: The ultrasonic sensor doesn't work with materials that are too thick. So while thin-film protectors will be fine, tempered glass ones might not. There are companies like Dome who already have their version working, and Samsung will put out a list of 'approved' protectors that are tested to work (whether they have to use a different material process or had to thin out their protectors, I don't know).

But yeah, this is new tech, and if the protector companies don't adapt, then theirs won't work. Would you ding a company for not being able to make a foldable tempered glass protector that's also under the 50-dollar mark for the Galaxy Fold?

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

U guys need to drop the zero and get with the hero man! Cellhelmet is the way to go. 0% touch screen sensitivity reduction as well as top of the line screen protection on top of a $300 (for the Liquid Glass PRO+ model) replacement protection for less than $80? Cmon guys. Gimmie a break! So many power users here and so few talking about cellhelmet? Catch up to the times and get urself a cellhelmet. U won't regret it, I promise.

I googled cellhelmet and found exactly 0 credible reviews on the first 3 pages of results. The first and last review of the product was in 2012 by cnet, of all places, regarding a protector for the iPhone 4s. Cnet is not a place to get credible reviews either, they're simply the only tech blog to have reviewed it at all.

The cellhelmet website still shows a mockup of a Galaxy S4, a 2013 device, on their website.... as in right now. Even when I change the search term to "cellhelmet review" - there's still nothing. Of the top 3 results for videos, 1 of them starts with the words, "DO NOT BUY".

Further research indicates that this is a product that began its career on Kickstarter in 2012. The company that makes these, Kane and McHenry Enterprises, LLC, has a 3/5 star review score (only 4 reviews) on the BBB, which also indicates that cellhelmet does not provide its own warranty, but contracts that out. There are somewhere between 31 and 35 employees in their single office location, which is a suite in a small "town centre" type complex, with 16 other companies on site. They also do work out of a mutli-purpose warehouse facility that services them and 30 other consignees in space (approximately 300 square feet on the loading floor) rented from another company, one of four that uses that location. They list this asset as being used for manufacturing and assembly, however past job descriptions for "warehouse associates" make it clear that this is taking things out of the box it is shipped to them in and putting it into the box that will be sent to a customer. Basically, it's a repackager.

One very interesting note, is that on their wholesaler about page, it shows a giant cellhelmet logo on the building that they are one of 17 companies to rent. However, Google Maps, looking at the exact same building, from the exact same side, shows no sign that said sign was ever there. Just to be sure this isn't a conspiracy by Google, I went ahead and checked bing too.



One of the biggest selling points on the site is that they offer made-in-USA products, however for that purpose they seem to do a lot of importing from Yantian, China, imported through New Jersey and delivered to the warehouse facility.

Other than being sued for patent infringement (settled), the owner, Michael Cane, who has a bachelors in marketing, and his company do not make the news much. There is a YouTube channel of his which has some 38 videos on it: https://www.youtube.com/user/cellstuff4you/videos - mostly reviewing cases. For some reason that channel went dead about 4 years ago. Then 2 years ago, cellhelmet's channel went live, and it averages a tiny amount of views per video with a couple of exceptions on very old videos. The actual crux of Mr. Cane's business partnerships has been owning third party Verizon franchise stores. Mike, according to his wholesale site bio, spends much of his time in Shenzhen, which is where the products are designed and made. But made by who?

One thing is for sure; their marketing team has gotten MUCH better since they hired their new VP of marketing, who outsources most of that work, it instead of letting the CEO do marketing.

This is probably NOT a product that should be recommended, given that it seems to have no traction, no track record and, despite claiming to be a globally recognized brand, which operates their entire supply chain, including off-shore manufacturing, product design, logistics and fulfillment - though it appears they own no factories, onshore or offshore, has no trucks, appears to employ no designers, appears to have a manager for every 1.33 associates, claims to make products in the USA and ... a whole lot of it doesn't add up. In addition to that made-in-USA tag, their site also says, "it is our goal to move as much of our manufacturing as possible to the United States over the next 10 years and we welcome you to join us on this incredible journey".

It's almost as if everything about this company, from it's fake locations, to it's fake made-in-USA tags, is ... well, fake?

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

One more thing on cellhelmet - just to throw out some wild math, based on the information available at inc.com

2017 35-40 employees, 15 of which are mid to upper management, and only 6 million in revenue. A healthy percentage of gross labor to gross payroll is 15-20%. Even if we jacked that up to 25%, that means that 40 people are splitting $1.5 million dollars. That's a mean salary of $37,500 to $42,850, which again, includes as much as 43% of the staff being management. Let's say the average manager salary, including executives, is only twice that of the average associate. Splitting the difference we get around $40,200. This would give us approximately 22 employees with an average salary of around 28,856 and 15 with an average salary of 57,692. This is in a town where the median family income is double the national average.

That seem realistic?

A merchandising company employing 40 people in this town would almost be required to gross in the 13 to 15 million dollar range in order to be able to support the workforce at competitive rates. The way to avoid all that overhead is to have a product that doesn't require a lot of space, such as software. As an example, a similarly sized company in New Jersey, a town with half of the median income of Wexford, has 44 employees and 5.3 million in revenue. That is realistic because a) it is a media company, meaning it has very little overhead in terms of space needed, supplies, shipping, etc. b) lower cost of living = lower average salary and c) they aren't overpromising warranty services because their products are mainly digital.

Now key in on the fact that inc.com also shows that 6 million in revenue as representing 600% 3 year growth. That means in 2014 the gross income was closer to 1 million dollars.

I definitely could be wrong, but I don't see this as being a viable model and the shadiness of the other aspects of the operation, particularly the made-in-USA but really made-in-China sketchiness just makes a lot of things that would normally be overlooked stand out like they're on fire.

 

[Almeuit]

I googled cellhelmet and found exactly 0 credible reviews on the first 3 pages of results. The first and last review of the product was in 2012 by cnet, of all places, regarding a protector for the iPhone 4s. Cnet is not a place to get credible reviews either, they're simply the only tech blog to have reviewed it at all.

The cellhelmet website still shows a mockup of a Galaxy S4, a 2013 device, on their website.... as in right now. Even when I change the search term to "cellhelmet review" - there's still nothing. Of the top 3 results for videos, 1 of them starts with the words, "DO NOT BUY".

Further research indicates that this is a product that began its career on Kickstarter in 2012. The company that makes these, Kane and McHenry Enterprises, LLC, has a 3/5 star review score (only 4 reviews) on the BBB, which also indicates that cellhelmet does not provide its own warranty, but contracts that out. There are somewhere between 31 and 35 employees in their single office location, which is a suite in a small "town centre" type complex, with 16 other companies on site. They also do work out of a mutli-purpose warehouse facility that services them and 30 other consignees in space (approximately 300 square feet on the loading floor) rented from another company, one of four that uses that location. They list this asset as being used for manufacturing and assembly, however past job descriptions for "warehouse associates" make it clear that this is taking things out of the box it is shipped to them in and putting it into the box that will be sent to a customer. Basically, it's a repackager.

One very interesting note, is that on their wholesaler about page, it shows a giant cellhelmet logo on the building that they are one of 17 companies to rent. However, Google Maps, looking at the exact same building, from the exact same side, shows no sign that said sign was ever there. Just to be sure this isn't a conspiracy by Google, I went ahead and checked bing too.

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One of the biggest selling points on the site is that they offer made-in-USA products, however for that purpose they seem to do a lot of importing from Yantian, China, imported through New Jersey and delivered to the warehouse facility.

Other than being sued for patent infringement (settled), the owner, Michael Cane, who has a bachelors in marketing, and his company do not make the news much. There is a YouTube channel of his which has some 38 videos on it: https://www.youtube.com/user/cellstuff4you/videos - mostly reviewing cases. For some reason that channel went dead about 4 years ago. Then 2 years ago, cellhelmet's channel went live, and it averages a tiny amount of views per video with a couple of exceptions on very old videos. The actual crux of Mr. Cane's business partnerships has been owning third party Verizon franchise stores. Mike, according to his wholesale site bio, spends much of his time in Shenzhen, which is where the products are designed and made. But made by who?

One thing is for sure; their marketing team has gotten MUCH better since they hired their new VP of marketing, who outsources most of that work, it instead of letting the CEO do marketing.

This is probably NOT a product that should be recommended, given that it seems to have no traction, no track record and, despite claiming to be a globally recognized brand, which operates their entire supply chain, including off-shore manufacturing, product design, logistics and fulfillment - though it appears they own no factories, onshore or offshore, has no trucks, appears to employ no designers, appears to have a manager for every 1.33 associates, claims to make products in the USA and ... a whole lot of it doesn't add up. In addition to that made-in-USA tag, their site also says, "it is our goal to move as much of our manufacturing as possible to the United States over the next 10 years and we welcome you to join us on this incredible journey".

It's almost as if everything about this company, from it's fake locations, to it's fake made-in-USA tags, is ... well, fake?

Damn they sound completely awful lol.

 

[mustang7757]

I haven't had time to read this topic from beginning .. does the s10 come with a screen protector on the phone?

 

[GrooveRite]

Damn, should I cancel my spigen screen protector then??? It's the flexible one, not glass. I've stopped using glass because they're either to thin and break easily or too thick with problematic screen sensitivity.

 

[strikeIII]

Pfft, what's a screen protector.

 

[ScottsoNJ]

This is interesting. I did a search on Google myself and look what popped up. This is just a FEW more reviews than you said they had...View attachment 298542

Should I look into the rest of you claims or assume they are all false because of one quick Google search with an intimidate dubunk? Furthermore, continuing on reviews, there are some pretty definitive youtube reviews on it. Please don't let this guy overwhelm you with all this data, because let's call it what it is, it's data (information would be useful) look into it yourself and don't let what some dude on the internet be the determining factor. I always encourage everyone to research something before they buy it, but I was sharing my positive experience aimed at people who may be frustrated with plastic or glass screen protectors. I was trying to help.

And should we just trust you with 17 posts claiming this is the greatest? Of all the people on here nobody else has recommended this product which is kind of crazy since we are all cell phone fanatics and most of us have tried 1 thing or another

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

This is interesting. I did a search on Google myself and look what popped up. This is just a FEW more reviews than you said they had...View attachment 298542

Should I look into the rest of you claims or assume they are all false because of one quick Google search with an intimidate dubunk? Furthermore, continuing on reviews, there are some pretty definitive youtube reviews on it. Please don't let this guy overwhelm you with all this data, because let's call it what it is, it's data (information would be useful) look into it yourself and don't let what some dude on the internet be the determining factor. I always encourage everyone to research something before they buy it, but I was sharing my positive experience aimed at people who may be frustrated with plastic or glass screen protectors. I was trying to help.

I specified credible reviews. I've never heard of trustpilot and they are not one of the major tech review sites. The data indicates that there's no reason to believe that cellhelemet is a product that any, let alone many, power users utilize over actual trusted brands, on any of their products.

 

[filanto]

absolutely hated my Zagg on my S8. they would replace my glass one, which fell off easily and had terrible sensitivity, with their vinyl one because they never got any more of the full screen adhesive ones in stock. I went with the Dome one and had it chip once. they replaced it within a couple days. I won't even consider anything else for when I get the S10. now I just have to figure out if I should get the regular or +