I still only have "order in progress"
U seem to be further than me.
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U seem to be further than me.
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Shipping notification....Who's first?
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Quis89
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I pre-ordered knowing that I would get it before the 18th or on the 18th. I need a phone by the 23rd/24th, I thought it would be safe since I was guaranteed a phone by the 18th. What's so wrong with that?
Glenn
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What bubble did you think you were bursting, exactly? Of course I know there's no tracking number, and nothing has been shipped yet. Were the words "if" and "miracle" not tentative enough?
My point is, according to this page, they're planning to ship it via "Next Day PM," not "2nd Day Air," which would take a day longer. So whenever they do actually ship it, I should get it on the next business day, not two business days later.
It's so nice and calm here when everybody is sleeping, dreaming about their EVO 4G LTE, just to wake up and keep complaining until they hear otherwise...
bigrey81
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This is what i just read from the foss website from december and it seems that HTC felt that they have corrected the issue. Personally i think apple is just bullying ...: MO ND AY, D EC EM BER 1 9 , 2 01 1 Apple wins ITC ruling of narrow technical scope against HTC: a limited victory but just the beginning
After twice postponing its final ruling on Apple's first complaint against HTC, the United States International Trade Commission (ITC) has finally announced its decision.
The formal order (which is not part of the document I linked to above) makes it clear that this is not a general ban against HTC Android devices:
[...] the Commission hereby ORDERS that: 1. Personal data and mobile communication devices and related software covered by claims 1 or 8 of the '647 patent that are manufactured abroad by or on behalf of, or imported by or on behalf of, [HTC and its affiliates] are excluded from entry for consumption into the United States, [...]
So what Apple has won is a formal import ban scheduled to commence on April 19, 2012, but relating only to HTC Android phones implementing one of two claims of a "data tapping patent": a patent on an invention that marks up phone numbers and other types of formatted data in an unstructured document, such as an email, in order to enable users to bring up other programs (such as a dialer app) that process such data. The import ban won't relate to HTC Android products that don't implement that feature, or that implement it in ways not covered by those patent claims.
If Google can implement this popular feature, which users of modern-day smartphones really expect, without infringing on the two patent claims found infringed, this import ban won't have any effect whatsoever.
Otherwise HTC will have to remove this feature, which would put HTC at a competitive disadvantage as compared to other smartphone vendors, including other Android device makers.
Either way, this ruling falls far short of anything that would force HTC out of the U.S. market in the near term. Also, out of ten patents originally asserted, Apple finally prevailed on only one. Apple will need a higher "hit rate" in the future, and it will have to enforce patents that are greatly more impactful than this one.
Out of ten patents originally asserted, Apple finally managed to enforce one, and it's one of medium value.
In mid-July, an Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) found HTC to infringe two of four Apple patents still in play at that stage of the process. HTC asked the Commission, the six-member decision-making body at the top of the ITC, to review the finding. Apple would have preferred for the Commission to adopt the ALJ's recommendation, but in the event that a review would take place (as it did), Apple also wanted to raise some questions of its own and asked for another look at the two patents the ALJ did not deem infringed. But as I expected, the review focused on the two patents the ALJ deemed infringed.
A much broader and potentially more impactful patent on realtime signal processing was not deemed infringed. That one could have had much more impact on HTC and, more generally, Android than the data tapping patent.
It's important to bear in mind that Apple is not the only one to sue: it is being aggressively countersued by all three major Android device makers. In a world in which only Apple holds patents, it could enforce patent after patent in order to force its competitors to remove certain features. But in the real world, there's a race going on for the first decision of major disruptive impact, and the ten patents Apple initially selected for this first ITC complaint were clearly chosen for that purpose (mostly operating system patents). A knock-out blow is a must-have, not merely a nice-to-have, when you're embroiled in a race for leverage with a view to settlement negotiations.
After twice postponing its final ruling on Apple's first complaint against HTC, the United States International Trade Commission (ITC) has finally announced its decision.
The formal order (which is not part of the document I linked to above) makes it clear that this is not a general ban against HTC Android devices:
[...] the Commission hereby ORDERS that: 1. Personal data and mobile communication devices and related software covered by claims 1 or 8 of the '647 patent that are manufactured abroad by or on behalf of, or imported by or on behalf of, [HTC and its affiliates] are excluded from entry for consumption into the United States, [...]
So what Apple has won is a formal import ban scheduled to commence on April 19, 2012, but relating only to HTC Android phones implementing one of two claims of a "data tapping patent": a patent on an invention that marks up phone numbers and other types of formatted data in an unstructured document, such as an email, in order to enable users to bring up other programs (such as a dialer app) that process such data. The import ban won't relate to HTC Android products that don't implement that feature, or that implement it in ways not covered by those patent claims.
If Google can implement this popular feature, which users of modern-day smartphones really expect, without infringing on the two patent claims found infringed, this import ban won't have any effect whatsoever.
Otherwise HTC will have to remove this feature, which would put HTC at a competitive disadvantage as compared to other smartphone vendors, including other Android device makers.
Either way, this ruling falls far short of anything that would force HTC out of the U.S. market in the near term. Also, out of ten patents originally asserted, Apple finally prevailed on only one. Apple will need a higher "hit rate" in the future, and it will have to enforce patents that are greatly more impactful than this one.
Out of ten patents originally asserted, Apple finally managed to enforce one, and it's one of medium value.
In mid-July, an Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) found HTC to infringe two of four Apple patents still in play at that stage of the process. HTC asked the Commission, the six-member decision-making body at the top of the ITC, to review the finding. Apple would have preferred for the Commission to adopt the ALJ's recommendation, but in the event that a review would take place (as it did), Apple also wanted to raise some questions of its own and asked for another look at the two patents the ALJ did not deem infringed. But as I expected, the review focused on the two patents the ALJ deemed infringed.
A much broader and potentially more impactful patent on realtime signal processing was not deemed infringed. That one could have had much more impact on HTC and, more generally, Android than the data tapping patent.
It's important to bear in mind that Apple is not the only one to sue: it is being aggressively countersued by all three major Android device makers. In a world in which only Apple holds patents, it could enforce patent after patent in order to force its competitors to remove certain features. But in the real world, there's a race going on for the first decision of major disruptive impact, and the ten patents Apple initially selected for this first ITC complaint were clearly chosen for that purpose (mostly operating system patents). A knock-out blow is a must-have, not merely a nice-to-have, when you're embroiled in a race for leverage with a view to settlement negotiations.
HTC should have just removed the feature and let the developer community fix it after distribution. Heck they could have easily 'leaked' the API hooks to implement the fix.
Many other software patents and disputes in other industries are 'solved' in much the same way.
Many other software patents and disputes in other industries are 'solved' in much the same way.
it's already been reported that those features were never on the One X or EVO LTE/
bigrey81
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Just in from Inside Sprint Now: 6AM Update: HTC Gets help from Economics Minister – & Warehouse Info 2 Votes
The sun isn’t even up yet, so there’s not any new information this early on the status, but there is one HTC update from overnight:
Taiwan Economics Minister offers assistance, if needed, to resolve current customs issues dealing with the Apple patent.
Taipei, May 17 (CNA) Minister of Economic Affairs Shih Yen-shiang said Thursday his ministry will provide smartphone vendor HTC Corp. with assistance, if necessary, to deal with the ongoing litigation on patent infringement brought against the Taiwanese firm by rival Apple Inc.
Shih told lawmakers at a legislative session that the ministry has kept in close touch with HTC to keep informed of the progress of the particular litigation.
Also, a question from the inbox overnight, asked by about 100 people…
Where is the sprint warehouse?/Do you have any info on the Sprint warehouse?
Those not in the industry may find this odd – but Sprint actually doesn’t have a warehouse. At least not in the traditional sense. Our primary ‘warehouse’ is actually outsourced (as with almost everything in the enterprise) to UPS. It’s UPS employees that run the operation, answer the phones, process the return kits, ship out your new phones, and yes they even do the basic phone repairs(Level 1-3). And it’s almost entirely automated, in a 500,000 sq/ft space in Louisville, KY. And yes, there is a bonded customs area (foreign trade zone) within the complex as well, for international shipments(hint: think HTC). While I’ve never been there in person, I was able to find a couple of older articles about it, one of them cited “a highly automated UPS fulfillment system utilizing four pick modules which are three layers high and over 200 feet long. Capacity is available to handle 65,000 orders a day“. I’ll try to dig around internally today and see what other info I can find on it, but as it’s outsourced, I’m not sure just how munch info we have on the actual day to day operations, other than processes.
The sun isn’t even up yet, so there’s not any new information this early on the status, but there is one HTC update from overnight:
Taiwan Economics Minister offers assistance, if needed, to resolve current customs issues dealing with the Apple patent.
Taipei, May 17 (CNA) Minister of Economic Affairs Shih Yen-shiang said Thursday his ministry will provide smartphone vendor HTC Corp. with assistance, if necessary, to deal with the ongoing litigation on patent infringement brought against the Taiwanese firm by rival Apple Inc.
Shih told lawmakers at a legislative session that the ministry has kept in close touch with HTC to keep informed of the progress of the particular litigation.
Also, a question from the inbox overnight, asked by about 100 people…
Where is the sprint warehouse?/Do you have any info on the Sprint warehouse?
Those not in the industry may find this odd – but Sprint actually doesn’t have a warehouse. At least not in the traditional sense. Our primary ‘warehouse’ is actually outsourced (as with almost everything in the enterprise) to UPS. It’s UPS employees that run the operation, answer the phones, process the return kits, ship out your new phones, and yes they even do the basic phone repairs(Level 1-3). And it’s almost entirely automated, in a 500,000 sq/ft space in Louisville, KY. And yes, there is a bonded customs area (foreign trade zone) within the complex as well, for international shipments(hint: think HTC). While I’ve never been there in person, I was able to find a couple of older articles about it, one of them cited “a highly automated UPS fulfillment system utilizing four pick modules which are three layers high and over 200 feet long. Capacity is available to handle 65,000 orders a day“. I’ll try to dig around internally today and see what other info I can find on it, but as it’s outsourced, I’m not sure just how munch info we have on the actual day to day operations, other than processes.
Has my phone been shipped yet?
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I feel we need to support Sprint and HTC. I'm no company nut-hugging fanboy but I'd hate to see (rotten) Apple's actions be successful in damaging two companies who I feel are offering a superior product. HTC's stock has already taken a big hit from this and it's a result of Apple's "patent" on a common sense feature. Not to mention our new phone's will be crippled(not that it's a major feature, but it should be there) due to HTC's effort to work around the patent. I understand people's frustration with not getting an immediate refund for canceling the pre-order but I imagine it's a big deal to make a major change to policy and practice in a large scale operation. Also, by canceling your pre-order, Apple wins. Sprint, a company who is not in the greatest financial shape, is a pretty good alternative to the higher rates and data overage fees of competitors who are successful because sheeple will pay more for less. HTC, who c*nty analysts have been sh*tting on for a while because they've been in a relatively short term period of less profit between major offerings, is a pretty good alternative to overpriced, small screened, proprietary sheeple phones. So I'd recommend focusing our frustration on those who deserve it. Give the people at Sprint a break. We'll all get our phones relatively soon. Instead, I think Apple deserves to have their phone lines occupied with our voices. This also hurts Google in a less direct way. I hope they do a bully beatdown on Apple in support of HTC.
Didn't you get it DD? I heard you were moved to the front of the line.
Well that didn't answer my question.
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Ordered it on 7th, but cancelled it due to there being no official release date. Re-ordered it from amazon.
Jackson Galaxy
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My HTC Medialink isn't very fun without my new EVO...Just sits there...and the fingers move up the screen every once and awhile...Boring show
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Really? :thumbdown:
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