So I thought I was crazy yesterday......and then I read this.

[anon(10092459)]

The excuses to justify this is astounding.

Just because the article is a month old is irrelevant.

The point is this isn't a new deveopment as OP is reacting as though it is ...

And there's no excuse needed. Mistteps happen.. No one was harmed or even put in harms way. Google explained what happened thoroughly and issued an apology.

 

[Mr Segundus]

The point is this isn't a new deveopment as OP is reacting as though it is ...

And there's no excuse needed. Mistteps happen.. No one was harmed or even put in harms way. Google explained what happened thoroughly and issued an apology.

They still did it.

 

[Mr Segundus]

Yeah, that should be the excuse you were looking for to return your Pixel 3 XL and go running back to Apple.

And the excuses keep piling up.

Who said I was going back to Apple?

 

[anon(10092459)]

They still did it.

And..? What's your point? We should all turn in our Android phones and run to the fruit?

 

[TraderGary]

And the excuses keep piling up.

Who said I was going back to Apple?

I reread my post and I've deleted the paragraph about "returning to Apple". Sorry for that. The rest of my post I stand behind. What Apple did for years, secretly crippling older phones to sell new ones, was absolutely criminal, dirty and underhanded. What Google did was a one day testing mistake that was immediately corrected.

 

[mustang7757]

All the manufacturers do something stupid at one point .. Can you trust any of them ? Nope just got to go with the flow

 

[J Dubbs]

Well, this seals it for me. I'm returning my Pixel 3 XL tomorrow. I was just looking for an excuse and this is it.

The pixel 3 series is a hot mess right now anyways...... might not be a bad call ;-)

 

[puch96]

What Apple did, secretly throttling devices for years in order to sell new ones, was dirty, underhanded and egregious. And they had the gall to try to tell folks when they got caught that it was to "protect" their older phones.

Compare that to Android's accidentally turning ON a Battery Saver feature during testing and quickly turning it OFF again and then quickly telling people about the mistaken setting the next day.

Very well said. And it looks like Samsung got caught also throttling ..... When connected to data, any device, any company and or third party can do things people would not imagine...

 

[puch96]

The pixel 3 series is a hot mess right now anyways...... might not be a bad call ;-)

Hey.. At least they are not exploding in people's hands...

 

[osubeavs728]

All the manufacturers do something stupid at one point .. Can you trust any of them ? Nope just got to go with the flow

C'mon Stang, you know that's not how it works around here. People like to be dramatic

 

[Jeremy8000]

What Apple did, secretly throttling devices for years in order to sell new ones, was dirty, underhanded and egregious. And they had the gall to try to tell folks when they got caught that it was to "protect" their older phones.

Compare that to Android's accidentally turning ON a Battery Saver feature during testing and quickly turning it OFF again and then quickly telling people about the mistaken setting the next day.

+1

Google screwed up, and people have a right to be bothered by it, but before standing up in a righteous fury to run to Apple and bathe in its motherly embrace, the proverb "the grass is always greener on the other side" should be remembered and a little more scrutiny applied.

Apple's actions were done in (what Apple reported, after being caught) was what it decided was in the 'best interests' of its customers. Their changes were clandestine and cloaked in an OS upgrade highly promoted and pushed out to the devices, and with no ability provided for consumers to opt-out or reverse the change upon install. Essentially, Apple took it upon itself to sacrifice one aspect of performance which the device owner may have based their purchase on in favor of another that may have been less important to that owner, and by so doing deemed that their customers either lacked the mental capacity to be provided the option to make that decision for themselves, or did not deserve the right to make that decision for themselves.

As to why kept it clandestine, the best case argument in Apple's favor is that they didn't think changes performed from their end were worthy of mention. A less generous interpretation would be that they didn't feel it was in Apple's best interests to have it known, and as many have interpreted it it was a self-serving act of accelerating obsolescence to drive a faster upgrade cycle among its customers.

There's plenty of great reasons to buy or stay with the Pixel. There's plenty of great reasons to buy or stay with an iPhone. or a Samsung. Or an LG, a Huawei, or a ______ of your choice. But if you're considering a switch, be mindful of the facts and avoid making decisions based on forum or marketing 'spin' thereof.

All of the OEMs are businesses. They're all going to do things openly or secretly that we would prefer they didn't. Sometimes we'll catch them, sometimes we won't. But at least with regards to accidents, be mindful that accidents happen, and will happen again, with every OEM. What will likely be of much greater value to your long-term peace of mind is how those OEM's handle accidents.

 

[mustang7757]

C'mon Stang, you know that's not how it works around here. People like to be dramatic

Lol I know

 

[Mooncatt]

...by so doing deemed that their customers... did not deserve the right to make that decision for themselves.

Hasn't that been Apple's mantra all along? Lol

 

[Mike Dee]

Almost reminds ya of when Apple forced that U2 album on everyone.

Free music....love it

 

[ptkelly]

Ah then you are sending your Pixel back and using the iPhone exclusively?

Didn't Apple recently slow down their phones to either encourage sales of new phones or make the batteries last longer?

 

[Almeuit]

Didn't Apple recently slow down their phones to either encourage sales of new phones or make the batteries last longer?

Not quite the same thing here. They didn't push that as a setting change they had it built into the OS. This topic is about a setting being changed on phones out in the wild.

 

[ptkelly]

What Apple did, secretly throttling devices for years in order to sell new ones, was dirty, underhanded and egregious. And they had the gall to try to tell folks when they got caught that it was to "protect" their older phones.

Compare that to Android's accidentally turning ON a Battery Saver feature during testing and quickly turning it OFF again and then quickly telling people about the mistaken setting the next day.

Bingo.

 

[legion125]

The joy's of living in a tech bound 21st century.

 

[bhatech]

I see lot of Apple hate , at least on iOS 12 they have worked to improve performance on older devices. There are a lot of things Apple does bad same way as Google or any other company but I got to give Apple credit for supporting their devices for long. Sure the issue of intentionally slowing down devices for whatever reason was bad from Apple, at least they worked on improving the performance on older devices on latest version. One main reason I love Pixel devices is the platform and security updates from Google and can't be obtained by other OEM.

I don't think Google did anything intentionally here since mistakes happen, and the same way Apple is also not some evil

It's ok to have preference just like every other thing in life, car, clothes and many other things. It's just phones we get personal and start getting on other brands which we are not using.

 

[ScottsoNJ]

ANY smartphone company or os company can alter our software and do whatever they would like to our phones. If it's not Google turning things on and off by mistake, it's Apple intentionally slowing down iPhones or Samsung sending out something to brick the Note 7. If you are connected to wifi and or data you have no way around it. Unfortunately we live in a society where privacy is almost nonexistent