I currently have a Pixel XL and was all set to upgrade to the 2 but I'm being swayed by the LG V30. It just looks better in almost every area and isn't as bland as the Google phone. I'm very impulsive and can't wait till October 4th to see what the XL 2 will offer. Do you think it will actually be any better than the V30?
Talk me out of getting a V30
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It refers to a band (a range of frequencies) that is allocated by the FAA for cellular providers to use to expand coverage in some areas (think FM band, AM Band, etc). Band 71 is, for some reason not in the FCC spec for the XL2 so, if you are in an area that only has Band 71 coverage, your phone won't work. Google for more details but I read in another thread that this affects T-Mobile customers more than others(?). Anyways, you asked what a "band" and there you go. I'll leave it to others to fill in the details.
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It only matters if you have T-Mobile and live in an area where it will actually be turned on anytime soon.
dsignori
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It won't now. Not much use at all in worrying about it.
It's for TMO's 600mhz band which - in the future, along with other bands that are supported on the Pixels - will eventually support 5G, but for now it is of very little use to anyone (perhaps rural areas?)
"T-Mobile’s 5G won’t be limited to 600 MHz, however. Legere said the carrier will deploy 5G on all its spectrum bands, including its 28 GHz and 39 GHz airwaves."
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dsignori
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Can you even buy the v30 yet? I wasn't aware that it was on sale yet. Assuming you can:
Try to be patient. The v30 has some advantages, but we won't know for sure until the PIxel announcement (less than 3 weeks away).
From the rumors, the v30 advantages might be:
- Wireless charging
- Dual cameras (if that is your thing)
- TMO's new 600Mhz band support (not much use to anyone in the next year or 2)
- Audio
Cons
- Android 7.1.2
- slower updates
- OTHER STUFF we don't know about yet because the Pixel XL 2 isn't announced (squeezable actions, etc?)
- The camera is likely to be very good on both, so it's hard to compare without the XL2 out yet. The FPS should be great on both so that is basically a push. Battery life too is unknown for both. And the displays will likely be very similar.
Bottom line - WAIT. Walk in a store in 3 weeks and pick them both up and see ...
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Maybe in terms of "speed" and "smoothness" since Oreo will be fine tuned with the new Pixels in mind. Photo processing may also be more consistent and more accurate since Google seems to have a better handle on that than LG already.
But it's really hard to see Google giving a crap about audio output (hence, the disappearing headphone jack) or to see them reimagining the Pixel as a content-creation machine for video to the extent that LG has done with their V phones.
I'm assuming that the XL will be the better all-around phone and offer the better point-and-shoot experience, but that the V30 will be the more fun to use of the two iff you're wiling to invest the time in learning how to deal with all of its options.
the headphone jack going g is not ideal on the new pixel although if they include some Bluetooth headphones I think I'd manage. not sure how likely that is though.
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Pixel 2 XL is rumored to look like the V30 so the V30 may not look better in EVERY area.
Long time LG owner (Optimus M, Optimus V, Optimus 2X, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, G3, G4, V20). Best LG phones I've owned were the two Nexus phones and the G3, but only after flashing CM. G3 + CM is the what phone I've owned. G3 on stock LG software is one of the worst.
The performance of LG devices is disappointing. Feels like a new phones at first, but degrades. You'll find yourself doing multiple factory resets during the life of the phone. Unless, of course, you're one of those people who don't really push your $700+ phone and could actually be happy with a phone half that price if we all weren't slaves to marketing...
The V20 is the first phone since the Optimus 2X (this was the worse phone I ever owned and, if not for the Nexus 4, this was almost my last LG phone) that I don't want to keep for a full year. Even though I kept my G4 for over a year and was mostly happy with it, 8baxfuslly switched back to my G3 as my primary phone before it stopped reading SIM cards like 2+ years later.
Appearance wise, the LG software looks great. People who still talk down on it are looking at old LG phones. It seriously doesn't look that far off from stock except for a few apps (most of which are replaceable) and you could easily find a Pixel theme on the Play Store.
The problem with LG software is I just never feel like it's fully optimized. Like I said above, performance degrades. Noticeably. Or it's just not great to begin with (my G4 would randomly lock up at times). Performance on my V20 is inconsistent. Sometimes, it's as snappy as I'd expect a high end phone to be, but then there are times where performance just drops for no reason and everything is slow (even after a reboot and even after not using the phone so overheating can't be blamed). More often than not, though, performance is just average. If I still had my G3 to compare, it wouldn't surprise me if my G4 running Cyanogen had better performance overall.
Battery life is average. It's been more or less the same on every LG phone I've had. Less on the earlier phones and Nexus phones, noticed an increase in battery life with the G3, but the G4 and V20 have remained consistent with what I expect from battery. For me, having a spare battery is necessary. The V30 theoretically should have better battery life (but so does every new phone E every single year) so maybe battery won't be a problem. If it is, spare battery backups are a thing of the past. This is my experience. Other people are happy with battery life. And some people are also happy having to always charge their phones or carry around bulky power banks.
On to the software experience... LG adds a lot of cool, useful features to Android, but a lot of it also feels half assed. There's just a lot of room for improvement with a lot of LG specific features and it's hard not to notice, unless you're either very accepting or very forgiving. The second screen on the V20, for example, is kind of meh. A lot of people swear by it, but there are so many ways it can be made better. And LG won't update their apps after releasing them. What you see is what you get.
And who knows how long we'll all be waiting for Oreo?
My biggest gripes are probably battery and performance. Can't do anything about battery, but I've seen better performance just by running a CM ROM... So that tells me that I'd be happier with something closer to stock. LG seriously makes great device, they just need to step up on the software optimization side of it.
Also, the wide angle camera is dope. Best dual camera setup, in my opinion. It's super useful, especially if you're on vacation.
While I can't speak for the V30, I can speak for the G3 and G6 I've had. G3 had issues with bootloops. G6 died (no power, or anything) less than 2 weeks after I bought it. I'm pretty turned off on LG right now.
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I know it's a weird argument, but hear me out. Don't get the the V30 and wait for the Pixel 2 because the V30 is an LG phone. As others have said, I have had an LG phone and it took 3 phones before I got a consistently working phones. Issues with dead parts of the screen, random apps opening (it really looked like it was being hacked or controlled by an outside user, weird), and others. I enjoyed the phone out of the box, but quickly needed to get another.
With the Pixel 2 u have the HTC or LG option. As someone else said, even though the XL version is made by LG, since Google had the say in everything, hopefully the issues I associate with LG will be mitigated.
With the Pixel 2 u have the HTC or LG option. As someone else said, even though the XL version is made by LG, since Google had the say in everything, hopefully the issues I associate with LG will be mitigated.
Thank you. You answered many questions I had about LG phones.
I don't think the V30 will be for me, because I cannot bare having another phone that sends me updated security patches once every eight months, or a phone that sounds like it has Samlag-esque performance issues.
New Pixels or perhaps one of the Xperias are looking like the best options now.
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600 mhz means alot to me since I camp alot in the midwest and having coverage out there in rural areas is huge.
I also like the dual camera feature.... for those reasons I like the V30 over the XL 2. Although, has it been confirmed the regular pixel 2 will not have band 71?
I also like the dual camera feature.... for those reasons I like the V30 over the XL 2. Although, has it been confirmed the regular pixel 2 will not have band 71?
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Is the 600 actually being activated for you in your neck of the woods? Just because the next phone supports it doesn't mean your area will.
The only thing that I think should temper marcus.plans's post a bit is that there's been multiple reports from reviewers (I think it was Erica Griffin and Flossy Carter) that the G6's performance, unlike previous LG devices, haven't deteriorated at all in the 6 or so month its been out. So that one issue may very well have been solved by LG.
Buying both
v30 and xl 2. Maybe pixel 2 but depends on how similar it is to my u11Similar threads
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