The first note I won't buy? (all discussion about lack of microSD and removable battery must go here)

[jim2112]

Note 3 owners here, and No. No SD, Removable Battery, No Sale.

I know it has been said a lot, but these are key features I look for. That's like asking if I would buy the new car if they went back to a stick shift transmission but put a faster engine under the hood, no. I just replaced the batteries in both my Note 3's for $10 each with OEM batteries from Amazon, and ordered a few extra charging ports for them for $6 each "just in case". I'm set until a manufacturer releases one with the features I want. When I am on the boat, and get no service, I want my data on my SD card. The large amount of space the maps take up, the music, etc. etc. Some times you don't have access to a cloud, and even if you do it will cost you several times over. It costs you data to put it on the cloud, and every single time you read it off the cloud. I am unlimited with Verizon, but for most it will matter. Now that Verizon makes you pay full price for these phones, they cost of having someone replace a degrading battery may matter more to everyone in a couple years. That's providing they don't have to send it somewhere to have it done risking loss, damage, or just doing without it for a week or two while they put a battery in the phone. I change mine out and reboot in under a minute, and will insist I keep this valuable feature.

 

[D Android]

Re: No removable battery, no SD card slot

Anyways, complain now buy later.

No, it's the other way round. Buy now and complain later when your battery starts to deteriorate and needs replacing.

 

[trevor42088]

Re: No removable battery, no SD card slot

I have 3 batteries for my Note 4 and I can go almost an entire week without needing a charger. I will have a hard time going back to being glue to a charger ever again.

you can go 2 days on a single battery? are you saying you arent around a wall for 2 hours in the day or night (even while you sleep) out of those 48 hours?

People are over reacting IMO.

 

[chuckawd]

Re: No removable battery, no SD card slot

you can go 2 days on a single battery? are you saying you arent around a wall for 2 hours in the day or night (even while you sleep) out of those 48 hours?

People are over reacting IMO.

I can usually go 2 full working days on 1 battery. I don't use my phone much at all but the thought of absolutely needing to be tethered to a wall plug sucks.

 

[mclarryjr]

Re: No removable battery, no SD card slot

It's really not hard for me to plug my phone in each night before bed. Doing that twice in two days would be less effort that changing the battery once IMO.

 

[dsignori]

Re: Note 3 owners here, and No. No SD, Removable Battery, No Sale.

I ordered one. There are some improvements to be had over the Note 4 which I have now.

- the S-pen writing with the screen off is cool
- 4 GB of RAM
- the quick-access camera access(double tap) and f1.9 lens is also an improvement over the N4.
- fast wireless charging might be a real benefit for me
- Improved fingerprint scanner
- the design looks great to me.
- the YouTube streaming is cool IMO​

I understand the complaints of the people who need all the power specs. Myself, I am not happy about only a 3000 mah battery in this size phone. What's left is a phone that offers some improvements, along with some limitations for sure.

For me it's still well worth it. For others, I can see the issues preventing power users from going this way. Good luck to all.

 

[trevor42088]

Re: No removable battery, no SD card slot

It's really not hard for me to plug my phone in each night before bed. Doing that twice in two days would be less effort that changing the battery once IMO.

and as far as i know, charging spare batteries takes just as much effort, if not more, than just plugging something into your phone instead to charge lol

 

[tadpoles]

Re: Note 3 owners here, and No. No SD, Removable Battery, No Sale.

I ordered one. There are some improvements to be had over the Note 4 which I have now.

- the S-pen writing with the screen off is cool
- 4 GB of RAM
- the quick-access camera access(double tap) and f1.9 lens is also an improvement over the N4.
- fast wireless charging might be a real benefit for me
- Improved fingerprint scanner
- the design looks great to me.
- the YouTube streaming is cool IMO​

I understand the complaints of the people who need all the power specs. Myself, I am not happy about only a 3000 mah battery in this size phone. What's left is a phone that offers some improvements, along with some limitations for sure.

For me it's still well worth it. For others, I can see the issues preventing power users from going this way. Good luck to all.

It may be an attractive upgrade for a Note 3 owner.

from the Elegance

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Re: Note 3 owners here, and No. No SD, Removable Battery, No Sale.

I ordered one. There are some improvements to be had over the Note 4 which I have now.

- the S-pen writing with the screen off is cool
- 4 GB of RAM
- the quick-access camera access(double tap) and f1.9 lens is also an improvement over the N4.
- fast wireless charging might be a real benefit for me
- Improved fingerprint scanner
- the design looks great to me.
- the YouTube streaming is cool IMO​

I understand the complaints of the people who need all the power specs. Myself, I am not happy about only a 3000 mah battery in this size phone. What's left is a phone that offers some improvements, along with some limitations for sure.

For me it's still well worth it. For others, I can see the issues preventing power users from going this way. Good luck to all.

I don't know if you know it exists...

...But I've been using that camera shortcut for 3 years on an old S3.

The secret is some app called Home2, but it's pretty dang old now.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Re: No removable battery, no SD card slot

The reason why I'm an advocate for the removable battery is because it increases the device's lifespan by having a component that will degrade over time easily replaceable.

My old M7, for instance, has a toasted battery. If I could easily replace it, I would still be using it now.

 

[dsignori]

Re: Note 3 owners here, and No. No SD, Removable Battery, No Sale.

I don't know if you know it exists...

...But I've been using that camera shortcut for 3 years on an old S3.

The secret is some app called Home2, but it's pretty dang old now.

Thanks, I didn't know about it. The advantage of the double-tap home button is of course the speed from <phone off> to opening the camera app, so you can quickly get a pic and not miss a shot. If it's slow (and not built in), that would seem to defeat some of the purpose. I can also open it fairly quickly from the lock screen too, so it would have to be faster than that.

Glad to know about the app though. I'm gonna try it on some other phones.

 

[crester]

Re: Note 3 owners here, and No. No SD, Removable Battery, No Sale.

I know it seems to be the cool thing right now to hate on the Note 5... but I WILL BE BUYING ONE. I currently have a Note 3 and while I am a bit concerned about the storage space on the Note 5.... I think I will be fine as long as I get the 64 GB model (or 128 if it becomes available).

I want the much improved camera with optical image stabilization and general improved hardware that comes with the Note 5. I will probably get one as soon as it comes out.

 

[crester]

Re: Note 3 owners here, and No. No SD, Removable Battery, No Sale.

I don't know if you know it exists...

...But I've been using that camera shortcut for 3 years on an old S3.

The secret is some app called Home2, but it's pretty dang old now.

If the camera doesn't open up instantly then it's not the same thing.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Re: Note 3 owners here, and No. No SD, Removable Battery, No Sale.

If the camera doesn't open up instantly then it's not the same thing.

It depends on how quick the phone launches the camera app in the first place.

I installed it on my G4 and it launched the camera in almost exactly the same speed as on the S6.

 

[monsieurms]

Re: Are you gonna buy the Galaxy Note 5?

Legitimate reasons, please.

Don't just say "Because it doesn't have a removable battery and SD card slot" because that's frankly overused and we know that's one reason why you wouldn't buy one over some others.

Well, in addition, ignoring that there are deal breaker issues you referenced, I wouldn't upgrade here. I have been planning to try to stop the constant upgrades in general! Now, I will grant that I'm often subject to that dangerous malady known as "upgrade-itis." So, ignoring those deal breaker issues for the moment as you asked, it is always possible something really cool comes down the pike with features I can't live without, and my resolve weakens and then shatters.

But I'd say in looking at the 5 that there just isn't enough to justify buying such a pricey phone when I already have the 4, a pricey phone, that's paid off, up to date and working great.

The concepts of "good enough" phones and/or "bored with the constant upgrades as changes become incremental" is discussed in this very good article:

Why Samsung should be nervous about its premium Galaxy smartphones - CNET

I think it's the coming thing. The market is changing. By analogy, it reminds me of Microsoft WORD. At a certain point, WORD did so many things so well--including about a billion things I never use---that there just wasn't any point to upgrading any more. What could it really give me to justify the often high upgrade price that I wasn't already doing? Not much. Haven't upgraded in a long time. Now, hardware does tend to wear out and/or become obsolete in specs faster than software, but the upgrade process is slowing down. It just doesn't seem as urgent any more. The incremental advances aren't exciting. I have a phone that does everything I want.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Re: Are you gonna buy the Galaxy Note 5?

Well, in addition, ignoring that there are deal breaker issues you referenced, I wouldn't upgrade here. I have been planning to try to stop the constant upgrades in general! Now, I will grant that I'm often subject to that dangerous malady known as "upgrade-itis." So, ignoring those deal breaker issues for the moment as you asked, it is always possible something really cool comes down the pike with features I can't live without, and my resolve weakens and then shatters.

But I'd say in looking at the 5 that there just isn't enough to justify buying such a pricey phone when I already have the 4, a pricey phone, that's paid off, up to date and working great.

The concepts of "good enough" phones and/or "bored with the constant upgrades as changes become incremental" is discussed in this very good article:

Why Samsung should be nervous about its premium Galaxy smartphones - CNET

I think it's the coming thing. The market is changing. By analogy, it reminds me of Microsoft WORD. At a certain point, WORD did so many things so well--including about a billion things I never use---that there just wasn't any point to upgrading any more. What could it really give me to justify the often high upgrade price that I wasn't already doing? Not much. Haven't upgraded in a long time. Now, hardware does tend to wear out and/or become obsolete in specs faster than software, but the upgrade process is slowing down. It just doesn't seem as urgent any more. The incremental advances aren't exciting. I have a phone that does everything I want.

I totally agree with your statement.

My G4 already does so many things so damn well that every other new phone doesn't seem to warrant the upgrade for me.

I mean, sure. Processor upgrades and whatnot make me excited, but my phone is already more than fast enough and frankly, the UX matters more nowadays.

You'll see me hold my G4 even 3 years from now.

 

[Andrew Blackburn]

Re: The first note I won't buy?

I hope Samsung sales on the Note 5 are horrendous. They do what they want and not what their customers want. I love my Note 4 and will be holding onto it for quite a while now.

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Exactly like a little company I know called APPLE
SAMSUNG ARE NO DIFFERENT.
Other than Apple Actually support their Products.

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[Andrew Blackburn]

Re: Are you gonna buy the Galaxy Note 5?

Legitimate reasons, please.

Don't just say "Because it doesn't have a removable battery and SD card slot" because that's frankly overused and we know that's one reason why you wouldn't buy one over some others.

They are HIS reasons. Would YOU be happier of they corresponded with yours?

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[21stNow]

Re: The first note I won't buy?

Does not have removable battery blah blah blah. Cannot add more memory blah blah blah. The fact is almost nobody carries around extra batteries. If it is so critical get an external quick charge extended battery. We are also moving away from needing everything local. With things like Google photos, carousel, spotify etc etc who cares.

Those few of you out there that like these features, you were never the primary audience of the note. The press so overlays your importance in the success or failure of this phone.

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So who was the primary audience of the Note?

 

[vamp07]

Re: The first note I won't buy?

So who was the primary audience of the Note?

Lately I think it's women and girls with large purses. I'm kind of amazed by how many women I see carrying the note when years ago the comment by most women was they wanted a small device and would never use a large phone.

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