I'm sure they have hundreds if not thousands of machines churning out the chassis as fast as they can. Nice to see someone on here with experience in the manufacturing process.
The HTC One will be a hit, pass Galaxy S4 for ONE reason..
- Thread starter DeadpoolJunior
- Start date
I'm sure they have hundreds if not thousands of machines churning out the chassis as fast as they can. Nice to see someone on here with experience in the manufacturing process.
I'm not interested in specs I'm interested in user experience and OEM overlays like TouchWiz and Sense aren't delivering me the user experience I want.
The thing is, a completely different salesman would probably give a different experience. Between HTC and Samsung, for you, people choose Samsung because of the SD card and removable battery. I dont even know how true that is because I figure if someone chooses the Galaxy S3 over any HTC phone for example, its because its just the more popular phone. SD Card and Removable battery, to me, remain something the tech guy thats on tech forums may care about as opposed to teenager who just wants a phone that works and takes good pictures for Facebook or whatever other reason. Most people just deal with whatever the situation presents. Phone dies? Plug it later. No more space? Delete unnecessary stuff. From what I noticed from peoples habits among college students, this seems to be the case 80 percent of the time.
JHBThree
Well-known member
- Feb 15, 2012
- 4,096
- 147
- 0
The S3 was oversized for its screen size. It is not a magical feat to fit a slightly larger screen in the same frame.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
I think that the whole plastic-doesn't-break-aluminum-does argument doesn't really carry a lot of merit. Samsung, HTC, Sony, Apple, and practically every manufacturer makes these phones with the notion that they're only meant to last two years, since the majority of smartphone users upgrade around the time their contract is up.
So regardless of whether plastic or aluminum holds up better, both are going to disappoint at some time depending on how you drop the phone (which is why the YouTube drop test results have been so variable from person to person). It's the same reason I believe the Xperia Z's "waterproof" feature only goes a long way. Manufacturers purposefully choose materials that are durable up to a certain point on the inside and out. Plus, we all know how lucrative the insurance, repair, and accessory markets are these days, so there isn't really anyone with significant pull pushing manufacturers to change these habits anytime soon.
Both the 'plastic' and 'aluminum' finishes aren't really going to make a difference as far as dropping your phone is concerned, in my opinion.
That being said, I also am inclined to disagree with the idea that an aluminum finish makes a product more "premium," thus attracting buyers looking for the 'most' top-of-the-line product. When you walk into a store and ask a sales representative to direct you to the top-of-the-line phones, (s)he is going to point to the hottest-selling phones with the most features and palatable specs on the market. Aluminum finishes are going to make a difference for a few, select customers - many of whom are aesthetic/design-centric and have already been absorbed into Team iPhone. And regardless, the plastic finish of the GS4 isn't going to drive a significant percentage of consumers away from the GS4 (and, again, we have a reference point: the massive success of the similarly-designed plastic GS3 versus the "more premium" iPhone). The vast majority of buyers don't seem to be offended nor unsatisfied with the Galaxy designs & build quality. And the vast majority of buyers are going to shop for top-of-the-line specs that don't make their brain hurt, anyways (e.g. a massive screen with HD resolution, a camera with a ton of megapixels, and 'cool' features like BlinkFeed or Air View).
So I'm not saying that the HTC One's aluminum finish is not going to make a difference at all - it absolutely will affect how some people weigh the One versus the GS4. But for most consumers, it's not going to be enough to convince them that the One is more superior than the GS4. Mainstream hype surrounding the GS4, coupled with incredible name recognition and a forthcoming marketing blitzkrieg from Samsung, is going to make a difference in moving far more units of the GS4 than the One.
I'm very impressed with HTC's step forward with the One, and primarily for one reason: this kind of inter-market competitiveness between Android manufacturers has driven many to make the best phones in the industry. While I was not taken away by a single feature the One offers over the Galaxy line, I do have to say that it is a beautiful phone that has pushed Sense in a new direction. It suggests A LOT about HTC's future direction, a lot all of us can be excited about.
That being said, I think it is far too early (and far too ambitious!) to claim the One will pass the GS4 in sales. Will it steal some buyers away from the GS4? Absolutely. Will it be enough to pass the GS4 outright? I don't think so...
So regardless of whether plastic or aluminum holds up better, both are going to disappoint at some time depending on how you drop the phone (which is why the YouTube drop test results have been so variable from person to person). It's the same reason I believe the Xperia Z's "waterproof" feature only goes a long way. Manufacturers purposefully choose materials that are durable up to a certain point on the inside and out. Plus, we all know how lucrative the insurance, repair, and accessory markets are these days, so there isn't really anyone with significant pull pushing manufacturers to change these habits anytime soon.
Both the 'plastic' and 'aluminum' finishes aren't really going to make a difference as far as dropping your phone is concerned, in my opinion.
That being said, I also am inclined to disagree with the idea that an aluminum finish makes a product more "premium," thus attracting buyers looking for the 'most' top-of-the-line product. When you walk into a store and ask a sales representative to direct you to the top-of-the-line phones, (s)he is going to point to the hottest-selling phones with the most features and palatable specs on the market. Aluminum finishes are going to make a difference for a few, select customers - many of whom are aesthetic/design-centric and have already been absorbed into Team iPhone. And regardless, the plastic finish of the GS4 isn't going to drive a significant percentage of consumers away from the GS4 (and, again, we have a reference point: the massive success of the similarly-designed plastic GS3 versus the "more premium" iPhone). The vast majority of buyers don't seem to be offended nor unsatisfied with the Galaxy designs & build quality. And the vast majority of buyers are going to shop for top-of-the-line specs that don't make their brain hurt, anyways (e.g. a massive screen with HD resolution, a camera with a ton of megapixels, and 'cool' features like BlinkFeed or Air View).
So I'm not saying that the HTC One's aluminum finish is not going to make a difference at all - it absolutely will affect how some people weigh the One versus the GS4. But for most consumers, it's not going to be enough to convince them that the One is more superior than the GS4. Mainstream hype surrounding the GS4, coupled with incredible name recognition and a forthcoming marketing blitzkrieg from Samsung, is going to make a difference in moving far more units of the GS4 than the One.
I'm very impressed with HTC's step forward with the One, and primarily for one reason: this kind of inter-market competitiveness between Android manufacturers has driven many to make the best phones in the industry. While I was not taken away by a single feature the One offers over the Galaxy line, I do have to say that it is a beautiful phone that has pushed Sense in a new direction. It suggests A LOT about HTC's future direction, a lot all of us can be excited about.
That being said, I think it is far too early (and far too ambitious!) to claim the One will pass the GS4 in sales. Will it steal some buyers away from the GS4? Absolutely. Will it be enough to pass the GS4 outright? I don't think so...
220 minutes for the chassis. Not the total phone.
- - - Updated - - -
So why didn't HTC do it with the One?
JHBThree
Well-known member
- Feb 15, 2012
- 4,096
- 147
- 0
So Cold
Well-known member
- Jul 12, 2012
- 1,260
- 0
- 0
I believe the original comparison was between the s3 and the s4. Comparing a plastic phone to a plastic phone.
You are the reason why htc'ers are the new Apple fanboys. "my phone is just better because it just is" way to be. Enjoy your blink feeds and zoes
Sent from my Note 2
So Cold
Well-known member
- Jul 12, 2012
- 1,260
- 0
- 0
And now we know, I'm glad we got that straight. And here I was thinking variety and choices were a good thing and a benefit of android when there was one right answer all along. Boy was I a sucker
Sent from my Note 2
JHBThree
Well-known member
- Feb 15, 2012
- 4,096
- 147
- 0
Next time try actually reading what posts are responding to before making yourself look silly.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
So Cold
Well-known member
- Jul 12, 2012
- 1,260
- 0
- 0
Next time try actually reading what posts are responding to before making yourself look silly.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
Feel free to provide the context that makes your quote not a ridiculous blanket statement. I'd love to look silly
Sent from my Note 2
Let's stop the silly bickering. The discussion is much more enjoyable without it.
Sent from my Nexus 4
Sent from my Nexus 4
Excuse me? are you stereotyping teenagers and all we use our phones are for facebook selflies?
jimbo
Well-known member
- Mar 10, 2011
- 102
- 3
- 0
Highrisedrifter
Well-known member
- Nov 14, 2012
- 299
- 0
- 0
No he wasn't, he was illustrating a point with an example. Please don't look for confrontation where none is present, Chetan. You've been posting well above that so far and i'd hate to see you descend into bickering too.
I am amazed at how civil people are in this thread, I fully expected this to be shut down after page 10
But again on the basis that Samsung made a huge improvements over the S3 hard-ware wise(thinner,lighter, bigger battery) those same people believe that the 4S to 5 was a small upgrade? Double standards?(not looking at software here because iOS leaves a lot.......to be desired)
But again on the basis that Samsung made a huge improvements over the S3 hard-ware wise(thinner,lighter, bigger battery) those same people believe that the 4S to 5 was a small upgrade? Double standards?(not looking at software here because iOS leaves a lot.......to be desired)
And also build quality:
I absolutely adore premium feeling phones like the iPhone 5 and HTC One(of course Nexus 4)
BUT people also like the ability to remove batteries, for example my dad would be all over it due to him working a lot and using a lot of LTE on his iPhone 5, which drains his battery more so(obviously)
Despite all people saying removable batteries are dead, that's wrong there is still a niche for that.
- - - Updated - - -
And also build quality:
I absolutely adore premium feeling phones like the iPhone 5 and HTC One(of course Nexus 4)
BUT people also like the ability to remove batteries, for example my dad would be all over it due to him working a lot and using a lot of LTE on his iPhone 5, which drains his battery more so(obviously)
Despite all people saying removable batteries are dead, that's wrong there is still a niche for that.
I absolutely adore premium feeling phones like the iPhone 5 and HTC One(of course Nexus 4)
BUT people also like the ability to remove batteries, for example my dad would be all over it due to him working a lot and using a lot of LTE on his iPhone 5, which drains his battery more so(obviously)
Despite all people saying removable batteries are dead, that's wrong there is still a niche for that.
- - - Updated - - -
And also build quality:
I absolutely adore premium feeling phones like the iPhone 5 and HTC One(of course Nexus 4)
BUT people also like the ability to remove batteries, for example my dad would be all over it due to him working a lot and using a lot of LTE on his iPhone 5, which drains his battery more so(obviously)
Despite all people saying removable batteries are dead, that's wrong there is still a niche for that.
So I'm still using my GS2, and I want to check out the One as a possible replacement. I did not get a GS3 because its too big for my tastes. Plus I'm a bit soured on Samsung over their crappy gps performance. Anyway, thats where I'm coming from...just so you know I'm not some fanboy.
Now...to everyone who has called plastic cheap...how can you say that? Depending on very many design factors, a plastic frame could cost as much or more than an aluminum frame. Shape, size, exact material spec, intricacy of design, machinability of features versus moldability of those same features, etc. Unless you were on the Samsung or HTC procurement team, then you have no basis for your claim.
Now my GS2 has a plastic back. And I can't tell if the edges are metal or plastic. But I do know it's been dropped at least a dozen times, onto concrete, mostly from shoulder height, and once from my back pocket while I was doing about 80mph on my motorcycle... and it has never cracked. There are a few little ding/scratch marks on a couple of corners and that's it. And it has never been in a case. The one bad thing this paragraph proves is that it's a dang slippery phone!
I attribute this durability to the fact that the glass doesn't go all the way to the edge. The glass is recessed, although only ever so slightly, into the edge which surrounds it on all four sides. Those of you suggesting that aluminum has some magical property of zero flex are delusional. How thick is it? What alloy is it? What structurally significant reinforing features are machined into the interior, and where are they? I'm pretty sure noone here knows the answers to those questions. But you do know that the ONE has the glass all the way to the edge, at least along two sides, right?
I'm not saying the ONE is a bad design because of this, because I can't answer the above questions either, and it is a phone I want. I'm just making a point. The iPhone 4 and 4s were shattering if you looked at them wrong, and I think it was because they had the glass all the way to the edge all the way around. Aluminum didn't help them. My wife broke the glass on her S3 the seconds day she owned it. It's glass doesn't go all the way to the edges horizontally, but it is proud of those plastic edges (sticks up higher than them), and so is vulnerable to any drop having some face-down angle. It is my humble opinion that such design features play a large roll in the durability of a device, but you people are only arguing over aluminum versus plastic as if those two word are the end-all defining factor of how well a phone will hold up.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
Now...to everyone who has called plastic cheap...how can you say that? Depending on very many design factors, a plastic frame could cost as much or more than an aluminum frame. Shape, size, exact material spec, intricacy of design, machinability of features versus moldability of those same features, etc. Unless you were on the Samsung or HTC procurement team, then you have no basis for your claim.
Now my GS2 has a plastic back. And I can't tell if the edges are metal or plastic. But I do know it's been dropped at least a dozen times, onto concrete, mostly from shoulder height, and once from my back pocket while I was doing about 80mph on my motorcycle... and it has never cracked. There are a few little ding/scratch marks on a couple of corners and that's it. And it has never been in a case. The one bad thing this paragraph proves is that it's a dang slippery phone!
I attribute this durability to the fact that the glass doesn't go all the way to the edge. The glass is recessed, although only ever so slightly, into the edge which surrounds it on all four sides. Those of you suggesting that aluminum has some magical property of zero flex are delusional. How thick is it? What alloy is it? What structurally significant reinforing features are machined into the interior, and where are they? I'm pretty sure noone here knows the answers to those questions. But you do know that the ONE has the glass all the way to the edge, at least along two sides, right?
I'm not saying the ONE is a bad design because of this, because I can't answer the above questions either, and it is a phone I want. I'm just making a point. The iPhone 4 and 4s were shattering if you looked at them wrong, and I think it was because they had the glass all the way to the edge all the way around. Aluminum didn't help them. My wife broke the glass on her S3 the seconds day she owned it. It's glass doesn't go all the way to the edges horizontally, but it is proud of those plastic edges (sticks up higher than them), and so is vulnerable to any drop having some face-down angle. It is my humble opinion that such design features play a large roll in the durability of a device, but you people are only arguing over aluminum versus plastic as if those two word are the end-all defining factor of how well a phone will hold up.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
Highrisedrifter
Well-known member
- Nov 14, 2012
- 299
- 0
- 0
You do realise there is a big difference between 'looking cheap' which most people are arguing over, and actually being cheap, which most people are not arguing over, don't you? And yes, for the record, I think the plastic on my S3 looked cheap. At no point did I say the S3 phone range was actually cheap or intrinsically bad (although my particular device was plagued with software issues but that's not a conversation for this thread) and it certainly didn't stop me from buying the phone. But, my opinion, which is no less or more valid than your own, was that I thought it looked cheap. Now I have no idea how much it costs to manufacture a plastic phone compared to an aluminium phone and frankly I don't care so I made no reference to that.
You're right about the durability of the iPhone 4 and 4S glass front and back as I have seen quite a number of cracked glass phones. Admittedly, although I dropped mine on numerous occasions, never once did I damage it.
I am still on the fence over whether I wish to upgrade my old work S2 to an HTC One or an S4 though. And whilst I think the plastic of the S4 does look cheap, it will spend all its life in a case, so this is not a deciding factor and will certainly not stop me buying the phone if I decide I want to go down that route..
Similar threads
Trending Posts
-
Tracing Wake-Locks to Fix Unexpected Standby Drain on Android 12+
- Started by andrewmil85
- Replies: 1
-
-
Question Downloaded app from play store now endless screens pop up
- Started by ozstar
- Replies: 3
-
-
S25 Ultra: Unergonomic and uncomfortable to hold
- Started by corvette72778
- Replies: 11
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram