The mobile OS war is over

So, you're going to compare 4 and 5 year-old iPhones to new Androids.
Why not?

What is stopping Apple from updating them? Or producing more modern cheaper versions like Android vendors do?

Even I would choose Android in that situation.
So would most people. They even choose cheap Android phones over them.
 
Those are really undesirable to me
And to a lot of people. But you asked for iPhones in those price ranges...they do exist. People just don't want to buy them.

They are not refurbished or used...those are brand new phones. Why are they undesirable compared to Android phones in the same price range? You tell me.

and are not sold directly Apple or the carriers anyways.
Why is that relevant?

All those phones are gonna run iOS 7 like poopoo.
Why is that? The Moto G is in the same price range as the 3GS, and it runs KitKat, the latest Android OS.
 
Do you really have to ask? Would someone buy a 4-5 year-old Android over a new one?
If they are so obsolete, why is Apple charging so much for them?

(For the record, I'd rather have a Droid 1 than an iPhone 5S personally...because it does more)

Does it have 5 year old technology like the 3GS?
Apparently Android is able to put out a much better product for the same price. Even by your standards.
 
I do believe that a iPhone 4 will run iOS 7 better than a 4 year-old Android will run KitKat, except maybe the Galaxy Nexus.
 
I do believe that a iPhone 4 will run iOS 7 better than a 4 year-old Android will run KitKat, except maybe the Galaxy Nexus.
So you do think Android is better. Because the Nexus is pure Android.

I have a Galaxy Nexus and it is running KitKat...it feels like a modern phone. It has never been faster or smoother.
 
And to a lot of people. But you asked for iPhones in those price ranges...they do exist. People just don't want to buy them.

They are not refurbished or used...those are brand new phones. Why are they undesirable compared to Android phones in the same price range? You tell me.


Why is that relevant?


Why is that? The Moto G is in the same price range as the 3GS, and it runs KitKat, the latest Android OS.

You know the answers to the questions you ask but you want to read them from me so here goes

1) the phones you listed were not meant to run software 3+ generations newer anymore than an android phone from that era is meant to run Kit Kat.

2) if I have to scour the web or Amazon to locate the phone I'm not likely to buy it. I want to be able to walk into a retail store and purchase the device because that makes returns easiest FOR ME (I'm impatient) should I change my mind for any reason. That's why it's relevant.

3) the Moto G was built to be low cost and recently. The iPhones were not.


Bottom line, Apple doesn't build for the low cost market. Why or if that is a good decision is debatable. The only way you're going to hit that price range I noted is to buy used or to buy antiquated hardware. Do I want to see a new iPhone that is sold for $200-$250 that runs the latest iOS well? Sure, why not? For some reason Apple chooses not to do this and I think it may have something to do with the quality of the user experience on a device in that range, but I'm just guessing. It may just as likely be corporate/shareholder greed.


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(For the record, I'd rather have a Droid 1 than an iPhone 5S personally...because it does more)

I had a Droid 1 and loved it, but it was slow as molasses.
So you do think Android is better. Because the Nexus is pure Android.

Why would I say it is better when it isn't? But I did give exception to it, but it is the only Android phone that would compare to the 4 on iOS 7. Any other Android would not run KK smoothly. And KitKat on the Nexus is not supported, whereas iOS 7 on the 4 is.
 
Well, even though the android trend is towards larger handsets, what is a good android handset if you want less than or equal to 4"...4.5" and why would I want it more than my iPhone? I'm on AT&T...can I waltz into my local corporate store or Best Buy and purchase this 4"-4.5" handset that is a good as or better than my 5s'?

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You know the answers to the questions you ask but you want to read them from me so here goes

1) the phones you listed were not meant to run software 3+ generations newer anymore than an android phone from that era is meant to run Kit Kat.
So what? What is stopping Apple from re-releasing them with upgraded hardware?

The stuff you are complaining about is exactly why Android is better. Because they are not boxed in to a single model. Thats why the Moto G exists for $100, but you'd have to pay another $40 to buy the much crappier iPhone 3GS. This is an example of why Android is objectively better.

It is obviously not just about price. I have demonstrated you can still get an iPhone cheap. If price was all that mattered, people would still be buying iPhones. It is obviously about capability as well...even you and Pappy are admitting that.

2) if I have to scour the web or Amazon to locate the phone I'm not likely to buy it.
LOL "scour"...I typed "iphone 3gs" into a search engine. Amazon was on the first page.

I want to be able to walk into a retail store and purchase the device because that makes returns easiest FOR ME (I'm impatient).
And that won't happen because no one wants to buy these phones.

3) the Moto G was built to be low cost and recently. The iPhones were not.
What is stopping Apple from doing the same thing? Their OS obviously has fewer hardware requirements, right?

Bottom line, Apple doesn't build for the low cost market.
Why not? What is stopping Apple from doing that? How much do you think it would cost to make a 3GS that can run iOS7?

People keep making these excuses for why Apple has failed to keep up. When it all boils down to choices Apple themselves have made. No one is stopping them from doing the same thing Android is, but they like the high end market because that is where they can gouge you for $100 extra for $5 worth of memory.
 
Can you walk into a store and buy a Rezound, original Nexus, etc.? No.
There is no reason to. There are already cheaper phones that do the same things and better. Android does not overcharge you for hardware like Apple does, because there is competition.
 
FYI, Apple has never had the most marketshare.
That is true.

But at one point they were way ahead of Android, and with a dedicated user base, and with massive name recognition, and with massive funding and a great product. What happened?
 

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