Unlimited Data is back

[FloatingSpots01]

So the tethering is 10 GB before being reduced to 3g speeds. Any talk of what that actual cap speed is? There is a large range of 3g speeds...

 

[Jaycemiskel]

So the tethering is 10 GB before being reduced to 3g speeds. Any talk of what that actual cap speed is? There is a large range of 3g speeds...

Probably whatever the 3g speed at your current tower is. My guess is it'll vary.

 

[Almeuit]

So the tethering is 10 GB before being reduced to 3g speeds. Any talk of what that actual cap speed is? There is a large range of 3g speeds...

Probably whatever the 3g speed at your current tower is. My guess is it'll vary.

This.

 

[userx]

When my phone drops or goes into 3g spectrum it's unusable on data. I have the old unlimited plan. My phone will not load web pages on 3g in any area. It it extremely slow. Like .02 mb slow. I am able to make calls and thats it. People think they could get by on 3g are in for a HUGH disappointment. This new unlimited plan is a classic bait and switch. If you have the old unlimited plan and use more than 20 gigs, do not switch. The new FCC will allow any throttling and net neutrality is DEAD. Expect future price increases like fast lane data tiers for the new 4 k video at home. Net neutrality is 100% officially dead. Sounds great for 50-70% peps but I smell a huge pile of ****. It's in no way true unlimited data. That boat has sailed

read this... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-kushnick/-americas-wireless-unlimi_b_14717798.html
and
http://www.businessinsider.com/unlimited-data-is-a-myth-2017-2

 

[HawaiiD]

That's not bad. I would have to add $30 a month to get hotspot although mine would be unlimited. That said I pay for sms and minutes so if I go over I pay more. If I add hotspot to my plan price is probably similar. Other people understand pricing better than I. My wife's phone is in my bill but she gets 2gb on a contract so my bill is confusing.

John Leger today said starting this Friday new and current T-mobile One customers with get HD video streaming and 10 GB of 4glte mobile Hotspot added to their current plan at no extra cost.

 

[HawaiiD]

According to my friend who isva verizon manager no corp discount on unlimited plan

Even the 4 line plan has no corporate discount?

 

[HawaiiD]

I went through their site, chose two devices (my wife and I) and went all the way to checkout hoping we'd be paying the same, if not less than we do on T-Mobile. T-Mobile is fantastic where we live so there's no need to switch, but I was curious, and as you can see below, the prices seem incredibly high.

Even if I remove $22 of insurance and $6 off in difference of what we pay per month on an installment plan, it's still far more expensive than T-Mobile. For only Two devices!!

Don't know why all the screenshots aren't showing, but the plan looks like this:

Account Access (Plan) - $110
LG V20 - $28/mo
Insurance - $11
Line access - $20
iPhone 6s (128g) - $27/mo
Insurance - $11
Line access - $20

Total $227/mo

Do you have the 2 lines unlimited everything for 100?

 

[Coraya]

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$227 for two devices. It's way too much money. $20 line access each. If the line access was removed, I would be paying the same that I pay now with T-Mobile. Verizon wireless device isn't $40/month better than T-Mobile. At least not in my area.

 

[lafountain]

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$227 for two devices. It's way too much money. $20 line access each. If the line access was removed, I would be paying the same that I pay now with T-Mobile. Verizon wireless device isn't $40/month better than T-Mobile. At least not in my area.

Is what you are paying on T-Mobile including the add on of device payments? Once the devices are paid off, it will be much cheaper than $227.

 

[Lodingi]

I must be missing something. Aren't they advertising 4 lines for $180? I would save a whopping $1.33. Too funny. Another oddity, my monthly bill is $330 complete. Kinda hard to make an informed decision when Verizon makes it so confusing.

Here's my comparison.

 

[Aquila]

It appears 3 of your lines may be on contract, raising the line access on the new plan from $20 to $40 per month. The $110 for data would be reduced by $10 if you set up automatic payment. Once those lines are off contract they'd reduce by $20 each. So for now it'd be $240 with autopay and when all three lines are off contract it'd go down to $180 with autopay.

The $10 autopay isn't in the column on the right, so for now you'd actually save $11 per month while waiting for contracts to expire.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

So how long do you think it will be when these new unlimited data plans are grandfathered and Verizon will try to push us off them.

I switched, I had 4 grandfathered data plans, I'm saving almost $175 a month. I can't afford to keep trying to hold onto them, and in my opinion it's a matter of time Verizon just sends out letters to everyone irregardless of usage.

 

[Lodingi]

It appears 3 of your lines may be on contract, raising the line access on the new plan from $20 to $40 per month. The $110 for data would be reduced by $10 if you set up automatic payment. Once those lines are off contract they'd reduce by $20 each. So for now it'd be $240 with autopay and when all three lines are off contract it'd go down to $180 with autopay.

The $10 autopay isn't in the column on the right, so for now you'd actually save $11 per month while waiting for contracts to expire.

Thanks for the explanation. Judging by my actual bill total ($330), it appears neither option includes the insurance, taxes and fees. Overall it appears to be a $100 swing. Deduct the $60 line access fees once the contracts expire, plus the additional $40 for the data increase when the 2 unlimited line's contract expires. I'd probably make the switch if they offer current customers free phones as an incentive.

 

[LeoRex]

To help people understand how the 22GB limit works.... When you are connected to a tower with a bunch of people, think of it as you and a bunch of other people plugged into the same router. That router has limited bandwidth to the outside world, so the management software on the router has to dole out bandwidth to the users. If there are enough people, everyone's data speeds begin to drop as it balances the load across all the endpoints.

The way the data cap works is that if you hit it, you sort of get put in the back of the line. If there are enough people on a segment with you, they are going to handcuff your speed in order to 'free up' bandwidth for other users... it's a 'you've had your fill, now you have to wait' sort of thing. Once the traffic begins to drop, or you move on to a less-congested tower, you will see your speeds go back up to normal.

So for a heavy user in a congested area, yeah, it'll sort of suck getting dropped to speeds that are nearly unusable.... but you might also be coming from a data plan that had a MUCH lower permanent cap.... so it is still a win/win scenario for you. And I would hope that if your local segment has been slammed 24x7, Verizon would have taken it upon themselves to go in and upgrade things to handle the loads at some point.

 

[Climb14er]

I've watched Verizon the last few years do EVERYTHING to get long time UDP customers off these plans. Since TMOBILE came around with their unlimited all inclusive of taxes and fees plan, VZ has been scrambling to look for an alternative plan to compete, not one year after they rolled out their tiered carryover plans.

Then yesterday, TMOBILE'S Legere announced an ENHANCED unlimited plan.

Know what? I don't trust Verizon at all! Haven't for quite some time. They'll throttle and move you to a basically data useless 3G at 22GB's limit... and I don't believe a single word other than this unlimited plan is a narrowed tiered plan with caveats and loopholes that benefit... Verizon.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

I've watched Verizon the last few years do EVERYTHING to get long time UDP customers off these plans. Since TMOBILE came around with their unlimited all inclusive of taxes and fees plan, VZ has been scrambling to look for an alternative plan to compete, not one year after they rolled out their tiered carryover plans.

Then yesterday, TMOBILE'S Legere announced an ENHANCED unlimited plan.

Know what? I don't trust Verizon at all! Haven't for quite some time. They'll throttle and move you to a basically data useless 3G at 22GB's limit... and I don't believe a single word other than this unlimited plan is a narrowed tiered plan with caveats and loopholes that benefit... Verizon.

Your right, but if your thinking the grandfathered unlimited data plans are going to be around forever, my speculation is no. I average 20 gigs a month and I can use less data, like use WiFi at home, I use 4g at home instead of WiFi because I'm unlimited so cares attitude kicks in.

Heavy users are not going to like this plan, but I think the heavy users are going to run out of road eventually with the grandfathered unlimited data, they are taking baby steps now.

 

[Aquila]

I'd have to agree with being cautious and not putting all of one's eggs into Verizon's unlimited basket.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

I'd have to agree with being cautious and not putting all of one's eggs into Verizon's unlimited basket.

So where should I spread them, I live in rural Iowa, my choices where I live is Verizon and US cellular.

I can get straight talk, but with Verizon plan, around same price I am getting 22 gigs at full speed instead of 10.

 

[Aquila]

So where should I spread them, I live in rural Iowa, my choices where I live is Verizon and US cellular.

I can get straight talk, but with Verizon plan, around same price I am getting 22 gigs at full speed instead of 10.

I'm in Iowa too! I am on Verizon as well, I'd love to be on TMO but they suck here (as in don't exist at all). Depending on how much data you use, IMO the only real choices are Project Fi or Verizon in Iowa for the time being.

 

[LeoRex]

I'd have to agree with being cautious and not putting all of one's eggs into Verizon's unlimited basket.

Yeah... that would make we wary of this move. Verizon has basically spent the past few years equating unlimited data to an affront to all that is good... they've been downright hostile to the users that were on older UDP plans, etc. They didn't make this move because they felt it was time to reintroduce the plans, they were basically forced to do so. With all those studies coming out that T-Mobile had significantly closed the network gap that had been, not long ago, pretty wide, Verizon could not longer sit back and just point at their network as a reason to do business with them.

So their hand was effectively forced... Now, you have to question their commitment to a type of plan they vilified only a couple of months prior. But as long as T-Mobile keeps up the pressure, Verizon will have no recourse other than to stick to it.