Why so much hate?

[phonejunky]

I find it humorous, ignorant and hypocritical when people keep throwing the word "innovation" around when talking about what they want mobile companies to do with future smartphones, but it's mostly only when Samsung tries new things (and they do more than any other company, except for maybe HTC) that people always refer to them as gimmicks without even trying them out.

Totally understand. I'm just telling the op the feeling I'm getting and what I'm reading from around the community.

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[xlDeMoNiClx]

Totally understand. I'm just telling the op the feeling I'm getting and what I'm reading from around the community.

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And that's what I say to the community: quit being ignorant, and quit asking for innovation and then pass off all of Samsung's efforts at doing something new as gimmicky just cause it's Samsung (which most people do), especially when the only device that can do those things isn't even out yet.

 

[phonejunky]

I guess. Doesn't really matter what the community thinks they aren't the ones pushing sales anyway.

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[xlDeMoNiClx]

I guess. Doesn't really matter what the community thinks they aren't the ones pushing sales anyway.

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If they're gonna play stupid, then no it doesn't matter what they think. I've just lost about 98% of my faith in the masses over the last few years. Anyway, moving on.

 

[omniusovermind]

You realize it will have a snapdragon chipset right?



Hmmm... Ill take the plastic one.. ;-)

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z188/beto2424/compare_zpsa759cebb.png

The only thing more ridiculous than that analogy is the lack of sense of those who liked it

 

[omniusovermind]

My upgrade is a logical one, I hate the Lumia 920, but love WP8 even though Microsoft hinders devices with it. The Ativ S didnt come out in the US, and I have an upgrade... Might as well get the S4!

I would jump ship to wp8 in a heartbeat if they fixed a few things that would bother me too much because it's a damn fast OS and I kinda like the whole UI appearance, the MS ecosystem. But the notification system is far poorer than jelly bean's and using Xbox music to manage music sucks terribly. No file management either.

 

[Podunks]

I would jump ship to wp8 in a heartbeat if they fixed a few things that would bother me too much because it's a damn fast OS and I kinda like the whole UI appearance, the MS ecosystem. But the notification system is far poorer than jelly bean's and using Xbox music to manage music sucks terribly. No file management either.

I only put pictures to the analogy already posted, showing it in light of my favor...

I find it humorous, ignorant and hypocritical when people keep throwing the word "innovation" around when talking about what they want mobile companies to do with future smartphones, but it's mostly only when Samsung tries new things (and they do more than any other company, except for maybe HTC) that people always refer to them as gimmicks without even trying them out.

Agreed.

 

[Ry]

I believe everyone feels Samsung was lazy. They pulled an Apple by not doing what people expect from Android manufacturers, and make something new and cutting edge not just for software but hardware as well. Also a lot of tech journalist and Android fans alike are mad that Samsung pretty much dissed Google by not even mentioning them. Finally a lot of the features seem gimmicky.

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Curious, how much did HTC mention Google during the One presentation?

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[Aquila]

Curious, how much did HTC mention Google during the One presentation?

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I'm not sure it's in their best interest to push Google... HTC and Sammy both make WP8 devices too. I'd love for them to come out from a philosophical standpoint arguing the merits of Android and their interpretation of it being expounded upon by improvements to Google's genius... but that makes them sound like they stand on the shoulders of giants, rather than at peer level.

 

[croppz]

Another Benchmark Test...Galaxy S4 beats them all again

Samsung Galaxy S4 beats Apple iPhone 5 and HTC One in benchmark scores | NDTV Gadgets

And once again, another statistic that doesnt mean anything. From all the videos I have seen, I have noticed lag. Im just hoping it was pre release software causing it. Now I will say this, with a custom ROM, the s4 is going to FLY.

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[Aquila]

Too much hate = sad knee high trolls with more ear hair than a wallaby.

 

[anon5664829]

Another Benchmark Test...Galaxy S4 beats them all again

Samsung Galaxy S4 beats Apple iPhone 5 and HTC One in benchmark scores | NDTV Gadgets

1. The S4 lagged(possible due to pre production unit)
2. What the **** do you expect? the iPhone is boarder line 7 months old. and I refuse to believe the S4 beats the HTC One.

 

[Johnly]

Too much hate = sad knee high trolls with more ear hair than a wallaby.

Lol

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[goelz83]

and I refuse to believe the S4 beats the HTC One.

Why do you refuse to believe this? They have basically the same hardware but the processor in the S4 is clocked at 200 Mhz higher (1.9Ghz vs. 1.7 Ghz).

 

[MikeLip]

Why do you refuse to believe this? They have basically the same hardware but the processor in the S4 is clocked at 200 Mhz higher (1.9Ghz vs. 1.7 Ghz).

Has anyone run comparative benchmarks on them? I haven't seen any. If not, there are no facts to back up anyones opinion as to actual, useable speed. My money says they will both be frikkin' fast.

 

[xlDeMoNiClx]

Why do you refuse to believe this? They have basically the same hardware but the processor in the S4 is clocked at 200 Mhz higher (1.9Ghz vs. 1.7 Ghz).

Cause it's a Samsung product and he just universally hates everything Samsung. Honestly though whether or not the S4 beats the One will vary from person to person, that's it.

 

[cormaster628]

So anyway my "hate" is gone. Yeah the presentation was terrible and at a glance it seems like a minor update. But reality is its a major update and it is superior to the gs3. A couple thoughts.

*cheap plastic - everyone harps on this too much. Samsung phones may appear cheap, but they are tough as nails, I've typically gone longer with them without making a warranty claim then any other manufacturer. Also it's made out of polycarbonate, the same material used to make the "not so cheap" One X. The cheapness notion might come more from the fact it's battery is removable, but wouldn't we all rather have a removable battery?

*Updates. Samsung does it better than the rest, but still this is something that your going to deal with with all oems, however at least Samsung makes it easy to go stock Android yourself, vs others like the nightmare that is htc. Otherwise if your worried about KLP, get a nexus!

*skins as we call them. Samsungs touchwiz has come along way and it's very nice. Overall if you don't wanna deal with that stuff, again get a nexus. Otherwise don't complain, because it's pointless. It's been said a million times, but before you purchase a phone, make sure you go with the intent of buying a said model for what it is, not what it might be.

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[Podunks]

So anyway my "hate" is gone. Yeah the presentation was terrible and at a glance it seems like a minor update. But reality is its a major update and it is superior to the gs3. A couple thoughts.

*cheap plastic - everyone harps on this too much. Samsung phones may appear cheap, but they are tough as nails, I've typically gone longer with them without making a warranty claim then any other manufacturer. Also it's made out of polycarbonate, the same material used to make the "not so cheap" One X. The cheapness notion might come more from the fact it's battery is removable, but wouldn't we all rather have a removable battery?

*Updates. Samsung does it better than the rest, but still this is something that your going to deal with with all oems, however at least Samsung makes it easy to go stock Android yourself, vs others like the nightmare that is htc. Otherwise if your worried about KLP, get a nexus!

Spot on, I find the cheap* complaints silly. My Samsung Focus is the same, and have lasted through quite a few big drops over the last year and a half/2 years..

With that Cheap* poly-carbonate, you get a reduced weight... HTC One - 5oz, S4 - 4.59oz...

Also, the software updates, look fantastic!! This idea that they are gimmicky is funny.... As that seems to be an excuse to hate on the S4. Other than main applications such as email, etc. Arnt all software updates, gimmicky? Yet people only whine now....

I would jump ship to wp8 in a heartbeat if they fixed a few things that would bother me too much because it's a damn fast OS and I kinda like the whole UI appearance, the MS ecosystem. But the notification system is far poorer than jelly bean's and using Xbox music to manage music sucks terribly. No file management either.

I would stick with it, if I was not limited to the teeth by Microsoft... Really though, no file management, or browsers. Developers are held back by Microsoft's rules. They wont even let devs have access to some hardware like internal compass, etc.

Otherwise, I looove WP8! But its just not mature enough yet.

 

[smooth4lyfe]

1. The S4 lagged(possible due to pre production unit)
2. What the **** do you expect? the iPhone is boarder line 7 months old. and I refuse to believe the S4 beats the HTC One.

Every phone can lag, I doubt the HTC One will never lag in its lifetime

Galaxy S4: fastest smartphone ever - Telegraph

 

[smooth4lyfe]

Has anyone run comparative benchmarks on them? I haven't seen any. If not, there are no facts to back up anyones opinion as to actual, useable speed. My money says they will both be frikkin' fast.