6+ months is too, too, long.....

[g1toevo678]

Im up for upgrade, and I WANTED to get this phone really bad. Then I started reading on the forums. Thanks for saving me a huge headache.

That being said, instead of getting the Gnex, I think im going to wait for SGS3. I like Samsung, I had the Fascinate. That phone had so much potential....

The Rezound is lame. Lame in the fact that the Dev community ran off Protekk. He figured out the RIL and didnt release it to the Rezound community because most of them are all childish little brats. Look at all the good Dev's the Rezound lost due to the community attitude running them all off.

The Motorola Droids suck, because its Motorola and we all know why. The Incredible 4G isnt that outstanding, although I like that it has Sense 4 and ICS along with the S4. Everything else about it is tame.

That doesnt leave much else on Verizon, which sucks. Where I live AT&T (POS) and T-Mobile do not get good service and Sprint is hit or mis.

So in short, I wanted to have this phone so bad, then I read the forums. SO im stuck waiting for something to come to Big Red worth getting Ever time I talk to VZW rep they say, "Yeah, I would not get that phone...get a RAZR!!!!!"

I got my nexus as a free replacement after 5 CLN's didn't resolve my Droid Charge issue (ironically, missed calls). First they tried to get me to burn one of my upgrades but when I refused to do that, they offered me the revolution-thunderbolt-bionic. When I asked for the Rezound, they relented and gave me the nexus. For some reason, they refused to give me the Rezound. After agreeing to take the nexus, I started doing some research and immediately called them back again to try to convince them to give me the Rezound. I feared by taking the nexus as a Droid Charge replacement, I had jumped out of the pot and into the fire.

When I received the nexus, I was fully expecting to have the signal issue along with random reboots, one way mic, battery drain, etc. I've had it about a week now and am relieved to say I have none of those problems. If I am not on wifi, I am always on 4G; I have never even seen the phone go into 3G. It may have to do with the 4G coverage in my area but the Droid Charge did switch to 3G once in awhile in the same area. The switch over from wifi to 4G is almost instantaneous if I turn on/off wifi. I've had conversations on the phone that have lasted almost an hour to people on Verizon and landlines and haven't had the one way mic issue. The battery does seem to drain faster than the Droid Charge but Verizon sent me the extended battery so I can usually go a day with moderate use. I haven't had a single reboot unless it's doing it when I am asleep.

I will say the camera leaves something to be desired. It might even be a step back from the Charge and more comparable to the DX. The fast shutter is definitely nice but seems a little pointless considering the focus can't seem to keep up with it. The screen is "grainy" at low light settings but at 50% or higher, it pretty much goes away.

I use the camera quite a bit to take impromptu photos of my son so I put the nexus up for sale and started shopping for a used Rezound (in my area, used Rezound and Nexus are both going for about the same price; maybe a few dollars more for the Nexua). But when it came time to pull the trigger, I couldn't bring myself to give up the Nexus. Maybe it's the clean form factor or my previous experience with the original Evo, but I decided to stay with the Nexus for now. When and if the GS3 or the Note comes to Verizon, I will probably use an upgrade and switch out.

I don't doubt many owners are having issues. And if I had issues that hindered the basic functionality of the phone, I would be doing exactly what they are doing and probably then some. I wouldn't root and rom in hopes of trying to resolve issues that are and should be covered under warranty. Nothing wrong with tinkering with the phone. I've done it myself with the G1 and DX. But I would never do that until I had a phone that was functioning properly in its stock configuration.

If you really want this phone and don't feel there's anything worthwhile on the horizon, you should take the plunge. There's a chance you may have these issues, in which case you can just return it, but I think there's a greater chance you will end up with one that works properly as I have.

 

[Undertoad]

I own four other devices and the forums on Android Central for those devices are void of complaints.

Since there are no perfect devices and 4.0.4 has only started to reach other devices, any forum that is VOID of complaints is an indicator that the device for that forum is not for the most demanding users.

Such as the users of any of the Nexus phones.

As I pointed out yesterday the Maxx forums are VOID of complaints that they are still on Gingerbread... they are like, gee it would be nice if someday we got the latest software, given that we have a locked bootloader, but in the meantime, we LOVE our unremovable battery, trolololol life is great in Maxx land!

Might as well get one if the forums love it so much, right?

While the GNex forums are FILLED with angry complaints about WAITING for a DOT release even though there is a back-end procedure to upgrade. In fact this is a thread about that complaint.

Here, we have people whining about the radios, but when asked about dropped calls they do not respond. We have people whining about data handoff even when data handoff is fixed for everyone with the OTA any day now. Are these the people keeping you from getting the device? That ain't right. Just get one with 4.0.4 and be ready to use the 14-day exchange period if you're one of the 1% with some sort of issue.

 

[whitecomet]

imo carries should update on moth 3 6 12 18 24. this is fair 3 since a new phone like the nexus at 6 month needs raido upgrades. For big red it's better less updates cost less mony and you use less data that should be illegal.

 

[Johnly]

Headaches suck! And Android Central are the greatest forums in the world. I respect the Rootz, but any statement by someone comparing forums and criticizing AC, that continues to hang out at AC has me ROFLMAO! It is okay to pass on the Verizon Nexus, it is okay to get a better device. I would.

 

[Johnly]

Since there are no perfect devices and 4.0.4 has only started to reach other devices, any forum that is VOID of complaints is an indicator that the device for that forum is not for the most demanding users.

Such as the users of any of the Nexus phones.

As I pointed out yesterday the Maxx forums are VOID of complaints that they are still on Gingerbread... they are like, gee it would be nice if someday we got the latest software, given that we have a locked bootloader, but in the meantime, we LOVE our unremovable battery, trolololol life is great in Maxx land!

Might as well get one if the forums love it so much, right?

While the GNex forums are FILLED with angry complaints about WAITING for a DOT release even though there is a back-end procedure to upgrade. In fact this is a thread about that complaint.

Here, we have people whining about the radios, but when asked about dropped calls they do not respond. We have people whining about data handoff even when data handoff is fixed for everyone with the OTA any day now. Are these the people keeping you from getting the device? That ain't right. Just get one with 4.0.4 and be ready to use the 14-day exchange period if you're one of the 1% with some sort of issue.

I will respond, I had two nexus's on every OS and radio possible. The mic dropped ALL of my calls but one on both phones. Only short calls were good. Anything 11 minutes plus, and my Nexus choked. I would never wish anyone into one unless they wanted the hack ability and beta possibilities. If you aren't for that, and want a media/social/phone powerhouse, get the new crop of devices with a15 cores. The old a9 and gpu of the nexus are so old. And the camera/mic/speaker/radio.....pass pass. This is my opinion and I am entitled to it by experience and money paid.

 

[DroidDev]

You based your decision off of Android Central forums, seriously? Try going to Rootzwiki or XDA Developers. Complainers on Android Central represent the vocal minority when it comes to the GNex. This is the ONLY forum I'm active at that people complain.

The GNex is hands down the best Android I've ever used!

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Honestly everywhere you go you will find about the same complaints. I dont know about you but I really like the community here and trust their input and their experiences. That being said, if I go somewhere to see what the community at large is experiencing with their phones and the overwhelming majority is experiencing signal issues then yes, that will infact deter me. I need a phone that works, and if there is a 70-30% change it wont then that is not acceptable.

To correct you, "YOUR" GNex is hands down the best Android you've ever used.

 

[g1toevo678]

I was thinking about getting rid of the Nexus for the Rezound (mainly for the camera). As I was browsing the Rezound forum and noticing the relative lack of "complaint" threads, it occurred to me that those who seem so annoyed by all the complaint threads in this forum might have been happier if they had gotten the Rezound...if only for their blood pressure. Just a thought.

 

[SOTK]

The Verizon forum has many complaints, as does androidforums.

I don't understand how people can say the complaints are of the minority.

I don't understand how people can come to a forum and make the statement that based on their own experience or the number of threads that the phone is defective. Do you realize how few people actually post at forums in comparison to the overall number of device users? While I can't produce a scientific number of my own or a link, I've read articles in the past which showed the percentage as extremely low...almost negligible. Further, of the percentage of users who do post at forums, the majority post unfavorable experiences. You rarely see people sign up just to post how thrilled they are with their phone.

Its also interesting to note that at places like XDA or Rootzwiki the number of unhappy phone users is extremely lower almost to the point of not existing. People can state all day until their blue in the face that they shouldn't have to unlock/Rom (yada, yada, yada), but flashing Roms with the latest code and leaked radios have fixed the majority if not all of most user's woes. Since there is a good percentage of users here who either are afraid to unlock or who are just too stubborn to unlock, its not surprising to me in the least that the unhappy experience threads are greater in number. Its also not surprising that Verizon forums are the same.

Not necessarily directly only at you SOTK, but to ALL who keep making that statement.
Show me a statistic that shows more people are satisfied than dissatisfied.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but when people throw out comments like that, I like to see their proof of legitimacy rather than their own possible biased opinion.

I would also like to see that stat broken down between those who call themselves techies that like to tinker and those who just wanted a new phone.

Why is that burden placed on us? As I've said, of all the forums I frequent, Android Central is the worst for negative opinions. Since you and/or others feel the phone is so defective (that seems to be more the claim here than my stance), the burden of proof lies with that group. You don't see me and/or others with good experiences starting threads claiming that the GNex is statistically a problem free phone. Usually, you see us defending the blanket statements made by disgruntled users who claim the GNex is nothing but defective. Talk about legitimacy.





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[DroidDev]

To be clear, Im not saying the phone is defective. Im saying that there is a HIGH chance I would possibly get a defective unit as opposed to a perfectly operational unit. That is a chance I am not sure I want to take. Take the Fascinate for example. I had it. Regret it. People complained about it much in the same way people are about the Gnex. I took the plunge anyways, and ended up going through 9 of them before they gave me a Dinc2.

Am I prepared to maybe have to do that with a Gnex? Im Not sure.

 

[DroidDev]

Its also interesting to note that at places like XDA or Rootzwiki the number of unhappy phone users is extremely lower almost to the point of not existing. People can state all day until their blue in the face that they shouldn't have to unlock/Rom (yada, yada, yada), but flashing Roms with the latest code and leaked radios have fixed the majority if not all of most user's woes. Since there is a good percentage of users here who either are afraid to unlock or who are just too stubborn to unlock, its not surprising to me in the least that the unhappy experience threads are greater in number. Its also not surprising that Verizon forums are the same.

Could that possibly be because those are Rooting havens. People that frequent those forums often root and customize their phones. Heck, I do to. But I at least want a solid phone. I root as a hobby, I dont like rooting because I feel like I have to.

 

[SOTK]

Honestly everywhere you go you will find about the same complaints. I dont know about you but I really like the community here and trust their input and their experiences. That being said, if I go somewhere to see what the community at large is experiencing with their phones and the overwhelming majority is experiencing signal issues then yes, that will infact deter me. I need a phone that works, and if there is a 70-30% change it wont then that is not acceptable.

To correct you, "YOUR" GNex is hands down the best Android you've ever used.

Anywhere you go? Seriously? Where else are you going then? Rootzwiki and XDA probably has the greatest community of end users anywhere on the net. Try going there and then tell me whether or not they are happy or unhappy with their experiences. Also, read some technological reviews. I enjoy Android Central; however, the end user community here is very small in comparison to the aforementioned forums. Do you see active development teams posting their work here and supporting it through the forums? They don't. Speaking of development, this phone has so many teams to it I've lost count. If this phone is so "defective", please explain why there are so many development teams developing on it?


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[DroidDev]

To reply to that, please read the post above yours. Would also be beneficial to re read the post above that one too. You know, where I said, "Im not saying the phone is defective..."

Also, AndroidForums, AndroidCentral, and any other non development centered forum devoted to Android products you will see complaints. XDA and RootsWiki while great, in no way what so ever represent the majority of the Android Community.

On a side note, there are so many development teams for it because it is AOSP. Makes a good reference device for ICS. Etc etc. Im not trying to be difficult on you but you keep implying that I think the GNex sucks and I am hating on your precious device. I dont. I just dont know that I would personally want to get a phone that does infact seem prone to reception issues. Went through that with the SAMSUNG Fascinate, do not want to do it again. Went to Verizon store and two of three GNex devices on display had sub par reception, while one of them had great reception. Both on 4.0.2. That being said I am going to wait for official 4.0.4 before I make my final decision.

 

[SOTK]

Could that possibly be because those are Rooting havens. People that frequent those forums often root and customize their phones. Heck, I do to. But I at least want a solid phone. I root as a hobby, I dont like rooting because I feel like I have to.

Then you are right. This phone is decidedly not for you.


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[pool_shark]

I don't understand how people can come to a forum and make the statement that based on their own experience or the number of threads that the phone is defective. Do you realize how few people actually post at forums in comparison to the overall number of device users? While I can't produce a scientific number of my own or a link, I've read articles in the past which showed the percentage as extremely low...almost negligible. Further, of the percentage of users who do post at forums, the majority post unfavorable experiences. You rarely see people sign up just to post how thrilled they are with their phone.

Its also interesting to note that at places like XDA or Rootzwiki the number of unhappy phone users is extremely lower almost to the point of not existing. People can state all day until their blue in the face that they shouldn't have to unlock/Rom (yada, yada, yada), but flashing Roms with the latest code and leaked radios have fixed the majority if not all of most user's woes. Since there is a good percentage of users here who either are afraid to unlock or who are just too stubborn to unlock, its not surprising to me in the least that the unhappy experience threads are greater in number. Its also not surprising that Verizon forums are the same.



Why is that burden placed on us? As I've said, of all the forums I frequent, Android Central is the worst for negative opinions. Since you and/or others feel the phone is so defective (that seems to be more the claim here than my stance), the burden of proof lies with that group. You don't see me and/or others with good experiences starting threads claiming that the GNex is statistically a problem free phone. Usually, you see us defending the blanket statements made by disgruntled users who claim the GNex is nothing but defective. Talk about legitimacy.





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At what point have I written that the device is so defective?
....waiting...
....waiting...
...still waiting...

Oh wait! I didn't make ANY statements as to whether or not it is defective, or if the complaints are of the minority, you did.

My point was that I don't understand how someone (anyone) can make an open statement like that with ZERO proof. If you have no proof of the stats then the comment is invalid in my opinion.

If someone posted that most Nexus users have had bad experiences, I would ask for the exact same proof of accuracy.

That's why the burden is placed on "you", because you made the blanket statement.

I have no bias, I don't care enough, it's just a damn phone.

Some are zealots for one side or the other.
Either; shutup and root, or I shouldn't have to root to make it work as advertised.

It seems not very many can see both sides (I do), and that's why these girlish little catfights exist.

Oh yeah, I forgot to address your rootzwiki/xda vs other sites comment:
"I would also like to see that stat broken down between those who call themselves techies that like to tinker and those who just wanted a new phone."
Get it?

 

[SOTK]

At what point have I written that the device is so defective?
....waiting...
....waiting...
...still waiting...

Oh wait! I didn't make ANY statements as to whether or not it is defective, or if the complaints are of the minority, you did.

My point was that I don't understand how someone (anyone) can make an open statement like that with ZERO proof. If you have no proof of the stats then the comment is invalid in my opinion.

If someone posted that most Nexus users have had bad experiences, I would ask for the exact same proof of accuracy.

That's why the burden is placed on "you", because you made the blanket statement.

I have no bias, I don't care enough, it's just a damn phone.

Some are zealots for one side or the other.
Either; shutup and root, or I shouldn't have to root to make it work as advertised.

It seems not very many can see both sides (I do), and that's why these girlish little catfights exist.

Oh yeah, I forgot to address your rootzwiki/xda vs other sites comment:
"I would also like to see that stat broken down between those who call themselves techies that like to tinker and [B}those who just wanted a new phone.[/B]"
Get it?

No, actually, I don't get it or you. You don't seem to have an opinion at all.

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[g1toevo678]

A lot of valid points on this thread. But I think it's time to step back and reassess where we are with it....

 

[DroidDev]

Originally Posted by DroidDev
Could that possibly be because those are Rooting havens. People that frequent those forums often root and customize their phones. Heck, I do to. But I at least want a solid phone. I root as a hobby, I dont like rooting because I feel like I have to.

Then you are right. This phone is decidedly not for you.


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If by that statement you are saying that the GNex is not a solid phone, and I HAVE to root it to get it to work like a phone then I guess you're right

 

[pool_shark]

No, actually, I don't get it or you. You don't seem to have an opinion at all.

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Some are zealots for one side or the other.
Either; shutup and root, or I shouldn't have to root to make it work as advertised.

It seems not very many can see both sides (I do), and that's why these girlish little catfights exist.

 

[SOTK]

A lot of valid points on this thread. But I think it's time to step back and reassess where we are with it....

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That's actually pretty funny! However, I can say I'm not mad in the least though! Its all good.

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[SOTK]

If by that statement you are saying that the GNex is not a solid phone, and I HAVE to root it to get it to work like a phone then I guess you're right

You are free to take it however you want. Given your statements, I just deduced that its not the phone for you.

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