Bionic's still coming, is defintely new hardware - XT875

Im confused as well?

are you saying the guy is blushing because you think he's had training for it already?

Id like for that to be true but I highly doubt that.
oo i thought he meant the guy was hitting on him or something.

i dunno.
 
i dont get it, what are you implying here?

I think he's telling us about an unexpected homoerotic encounter he had at the Verizon store...

:p

Seriously though, as we near 200 pages on this thread, still without any of the supposed inventory leaks Phil said were coming (again, not blaming him, just saying), I think its interesting to take a step back and see the thread has actually gone.

The fact is, the Bionic itself is now one of the side-topics of this thread. Despite all this interest, Motorola has so utterly failed to stoke the flames with even the smallest hint of anything official that many people have lost interest. Many people in this thread, myself included, have already given up and either purchased a Charge or something similar, or have decided to wait for something bigger and better than the Bionic. With the sheer lack of info from Moto, this thread has turned into honest speculation about Moto's ability to deliver a competitive product, or if they even know how to be a player in this game, and arguments over whether various assumed specs of the Bionic are better or worse than the competition.

Interest is waning, focus has shifted off the product, and many people have already moved on. I think that fact speaks greater volumes about Moto's ability to compete than anything else. You have no business hyping a product that's supposed to shake up the industry and be THE device to get if you can't actually deliver it, or any other competitive product, in a reasonable time frame, not to mention the extremely generous time frame they've already had.

At this point I'm still in this thread because its interesting, the Bionic's release date is already irrelevant to me. It was an exciting superphone when first announced, capable of blowing everything else out of the water. Even in late April, when they announced the "redesign" (aka, failure), it was still really exciting, and the promise of something to beat out even the latest competition was very tempting. But now this phone won't be coming out until all the other manufacturers have had powerful dual-cores of their own out for some time, all with various special features of their own. So I don't see how it can be anything more than an equal competitor by this fall.

Remember also that its not about the specs of the phone, its how well you can sell it. All of these other phones have been well-detailed and hyped up in preparation for their release. We heard about them a few months ago, saw pictures, saw specs, read press releases, saw hands-on videos, and release dates. Now they're coming out or soon to release, and interested consumers are excited for their release. Compare this to Moto, who announced a device in February, hyped it a bit, cancelled it in April and swept it under the rug, only to announce it would be "redesigned". They haven't said anything since then, and we've had one set of leaked pictures, and trustworthy rumors of a mid-August release. Its pretty hard to stay excited about something you saw in February all the way through August, and the average consumer doesn't go digging through pages of posts on enthusiast message boards to find rumors and leaks about a device they are considering.

So they're very slow in bringing a device to market that should match the competitors specs, but recent devices give cause for us to worry about the hardware, and it also has zero marketing. Sounds like a real plan for success...

It'd be great if Moto gets the next Nexus, seems like they'll need it at this point just to get their head back above-water. It really doesn't look like the Bionic will be enough at this late date.

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Yeah but cruiser once the leaks and dates start pouring in EVERYONE will forget about everything that transpired and be all excited. Then the device will launch and people will be raving about it. 2 weeks will go by and then the "I'm so disappointed" "Bionic was a waste" "Sorry guys I'm returning it and waiting for the....." threads will start pouring in

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This guy had no clue what the heck you were talking about lol. You may as well have spoken to him in Farsi.

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Agreed. Verizon spends hours on end training their employees to ensure that they know absolutely nothing about anything. He probably would've had the exact same response if you asked him when the verizon was going to release the EVO 3D
 
Agreed. Verizon spends hours on end training their employees to ensure that they know absolutely nothing about anything. He probably would've had the exact same response if you asked him when the verizon was going to release the EVO 3D

He would have said in March 2012 as the '3 Thunderbolt D'.
 
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You know I am still interested in the Bionic, but I am also still interested in the Droid 3. I have to agree that the hype surrounding the Bionic has waned significantly since it was announced, seemingly scrapped, and then brought back to life. I am a huge fan of Motorola and the build quality of their devices. I have used them for 10 plus years and I have always had great luck with them. I am continuing to be patient with the upcoming releases and want to see just what they are truly bringing to the table, keeping an open mind on both of these handsets. Time will surely tell everyone.
 
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Only problem with that thought is that Samsung bought the company that developed Pentile and, therefore, owns the patent on that technology as well...

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"Nouvoyance is a technology development company that develops PenTile? technology, in partnership with Samsung Electronics, for flat-panel display manufacturers and their IC suppliers to improve the brightness, resolution, contrast, and power consumption of flat-panel displays.
PenTile technology was originally developed by Clairvoyante, Inc. Clairvoyante was founded in July 2000 by Candice H. Brown Elliott. Ms. Brown Elliott theorized that display performance could be significantly improved by capitalizing on the principals of human color perception, which led her to develop PenTile? subpixel layouts and related image-processing algorithms. Samsung Electronics aquired Clairvoyante's assets in March 2008. Nouvoyance was founded in early 2008 as an independent enterprise to provide continued engineering support, research, and development of PenTile technology and other improvements to color displays. Nouvoyance is led by CEO Candice Brown Elliott and Sr. Vice President of Strategic Sales and Marketing Joel Pollack, formerly CEO of Clairvoyante and prior to that a senior executive with Sharp Microelectronics of the Americas.

Nouvoyance is an intellectual property company—it does not manufacture displays. Licensing of this technology is now done through Samsung Electronics, following the aquisition of all of Clairvoyante's assets."
Thank you for that. I did not know that.
 
Sensation will be great Jasper, snatch it up. I'm not a fan of HTC but overall I think it's a "better" product. Screen is really nice too :)

The Sensation is awesome. The only thing that people have to consider is if they have good T-mobile coverage since its spottier than VZW. I'm loving it so far though.
 
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Yeah, Samsung bought the license for Pentile so they could use it on the first s-amoled screens to improve the effective pixel density without actually increasing the number of pixels, because it made them much easier to manufacture. It didn't produce the best results in terms of text readability though, so the plus version (that I'm using right now) switched back to a normal layout with more pixels, but they kept the license so they could sell it to others.

Keep in mind though that the "competing" technology, S-LCD, is actually a joint venture between Sony and Samsung, with Samsung owning one more share. So pretty much any nice screen these days is putting money in Samsung's pocket.

I don't think some of you realize just how big of a player Samsung is in the tech world. Nearly any gadget you buy has a few components in it with their name on it, whether the device itself does or not...
 
Well i'd still get the Bionic of course, just need a DROID Charge to lock in Unlimited. Then throw it on Ebay once the Bionic comes out.
 
I don't think some of you realize just how big of a player Samsung is in the tech world. Nearly any gadget you buy has a few components in it with their name on it, whether the device itself does or not...

I have a Samsung tv, phone, and laptop. I just realized that. lol