Confirmed, we have the worst still camera...

[japclev]

Ive been taking photos with cam scanner app.... They seem better.... Makes me want better software not hardware...

 

[ccw1134]

I'm only posting this picture because of the questions of the shutter speed by some. While the picture is a bit washed out, it did a great job capturing the fast motion as this kid was midair after jumping off of a diving board. The settings were all set to automatic FYI.

 

[CarrieK]

CC, that is definitely an action shot with no blur. It looks pretty darned good. I'll take a dollar for each post from those who say you just got lucky on that one though. I figure I'd have enough money to buy the beer for tailgating tomorrow

 

[linzgeneral]

I change more settings then most because I'm anal, and also know it will turn out better for me if I do so. leaving your white balance on auto will be fine too in my examples. your flash will go off if indoors, wont go off if outdoors. you will still have to change your ISO on a SGS2 in ultra low light or you'll get the same results as an evo3d, good to poor depending on your subject and your skills.
so on a SGS2 phone it will know that my subject is being back lit by the sun and she wont turn out dark? I won't have to change the exposure setting to +1 on the SGS2? really? the phone just "knows" that she is being back lit? cool, I'm running out and getting one now....yeah, right.

I should chill out when I'm giving out some damn good advice on how to take better pictures on any camera phone? really? I should chill?
I'm not looking down anyone's nose who is at least willing to understand that with any camera you need to understand the basics of photography. the more you know and understand the less you'll stop blaming a camera and look in the mirror.

we might dissagree on some things but I still think you are a great person. so here is some thanks and likes from me.

I have both phones. I got the Epic touch for the camera alone. I wanted the 3D camera to be good so badly but it is not to be. I tried everything, got one or two ok shots and more bad ones than good ones after trying every setting imaginable. My kids first day of school is ruined as I trusted that the 3D would do the job...not... I can tell you that I don't even know how to get to the setting for the Epic touch (don't need to know) and I was the first in my Corporate store to get it on launch day. A low light pic on the galaxy touch looks better than the best ideally lit pic on the 3D after fumbling with settings. It is a night and day difference.

 

[CarrieK]

I have both phones. I got the Epic touch for the camera alone. I wanted the 3D camera to be good so badly but it is not to be. I tried everything, got one or two ok shots and more bad ones than good ones after trying every setting imaginable. My kids first day of school is ruined as I trusted that the 3D would do the job...not... I can tell you that I don't even know how to get to the setting for the Epic touch (don't need to know) and I was the first in my Corporate store to get it on launch day. A low light pic on the galaxy touch looks better than the best ideally lit pic on the 3D after fumbling with settings. It is a night and day difference.

I don't understand. You kept your EVO 3D but got an Epic Touch for the camera alone. If better quality pictures than those you take on the EVO 3D are that important to you, even for the 200 dollars you would pay for an upgrade you could get a much better quality digital camera than any in a cell phone.

 

[Wiley_11]

I don't understand. You kept your EVO 3D but got an Epic Touch for the camera alone. If better quality pictures than those you take on the EVO 3D are that important to you, even for the 200 dollars you would pay for an upgrade you could get a much better quality digital camera than any in a cell phone.

I like your style!! lol ltm loltm

 

[CarrieK]

I like your style!! lol ltm loltm

I hope no one misinterprets my question. I'm really not trying to be rude. We got a very nice 8 mp digital camera at Electronic Express for a little more than 100 dollars. I rarely use it though, which bugs my husband to no end. Not that he gets mad, but he wonders why we even bothered to buy it because I am the picture nut and I rarely use it. I am truly curious as to why someone wouldn't just get a good digital camera instead.

Fwiw, I don't use our Flip camcorder either!

 

[warpdrive]

I don't understand. You kept your EVO 3D but got an Epic Touch for the camera alone. If better quality pictures than those you take on the EVO 3D are that important to you, even for the 200 dollars you would pay for an upgrade you could get a much better quality digital camera than any in a cell phone.

But at this close to owning a EVO3d, he would have to pay full price. Yet for $200 or $300, he could get a awesome P&S. I agree, its silly to get a phone just for the camera. Just think about it, madam, can I get a GSII and no don't activate it. I just want it for the camera.

sent with my EVO3D with lazer beams

 

[Wiley_11]

I hope no one misinterprets my question. I'm really not trying to be rude. We got a very nice 8 mp digital camera at Electronic Express for a little more than 100 dollars. I rarely use it though, which bugs my husband to no end. Not that he gets mad, but he wonders why we even bothered to buy it because I am the picture nut and I rarely use it. I am truly curious as to why someone wouldn't just get a good digital camera instead.

Fwiw, I don't use our Flip camcorder either!

I don't see how anybody could misinterpret a question delivered with laser guided precision.

 

[japclev]

I'm only posting this picture because of the questions of the shutter speed by some. While the picture is a bit washed out, it did a great job capturing the fast motion as this kid was midair after jumping off of a diving board. The settings were all set to automatic FYI.

Can't wash out that Ginger!

 

[VickMackey#AC]

X-POST from "what is the biggest issue for you with the EVO3D"

UPDATE: CAMERA. Just got back from Mexico, Compared side by side with my 2 year old Canon A570 and while I understand that one's a camera and a phone, The 3D's photos are noisy as hell and almost unsharable. This is after using the tweaks from various camera threads. Even for a cellphone camera it's bad. And Even if it's the settings, this is still not acceptable performance.

I don't think the picture below is good, or even acceptable performance for a phone of this level. I also adjusted the settings several times.

 

[CarrieK]

X-POST from "what is the biggest issue for you with the EVO3D"

UPDATE: CAMERA. Just got back from Mexico, Compared side by side with my 2 year old Canon A570 and while I understand that one's a camera and a phone, The 3D's photos are noisy as hell and almost unsharable. This is after using the tweaks from various camera threads. Even for a cellphone camera it's bad. And Even if it's the settings, this is still not acceptable performance.

I don't think the picture below is good, or even acceptable performance for a phone of this level. I also adjusted the settings several times.

I agree, that isn't a good picture. I have been able to get much better results consistently, in all types of light, subjects, motion, etc. I have shared quite a few of them here on the forums. I don't know what is different between what you are doing and what I am doing but clearly something is wrong somewhere.

 

[warpdrive]

Vick,

quick questions...what ISO was that shot at? what was the white balance set at?
could you also give me a better understanding of just where this was shot at, like was it full outside or was it only partly outside such as under a shade?

 

[VickMackey#AC]

Vick,

quick questions...what ISO was that shot at? what was the white balance set at?
could you also give me a better understanding of just where this was shot at, like was it full outside or was it only partly outside such as under a shade?

Very bright day. iso was about 100. White balance was set to auto. I found some success with this setting in some situations, but poor in others. Sat was neg 1.

 

[warpdrive]

Very bright day. iso was about 100. White balance was set to auto. I found some success with this setting in some situations, but poor in others. Sat was neg 1.

while you gave me a lot of detail that I need, this shot was not done in direct sunlight...I don't care how bright it was outside, this was not done in bright, direct sunlight. there would be shadows from the bars located above and around the iguana. what I'm asking is where was this subject taken at? under a shade? in a green house? an indoor/outdoor bar or garden by the swimming pool?

regardless, there are reasons I've asked people to try my settings. the camera on this phone has an F-stop that is a bit closed down for most peoples needs. as a result, you'll get great depth of feild in photos of landscapes and such. but if forces the camera to also use a shutter speed that is too low at times. yes, even in bright light. the flip side is that if it was more open to let in more light (say for low light photos) it would give you a super low depth of field and thus a lot of your backgrounds and forgrounds will be out of focus.
changing your ISO to 200 like in my settings helps to solve this problem for most people as it gives you a slight increase in shutterspeed.

since you didn't use the flash (I can tell), and you also used a low ISO in defused and soft lighting, I'm not suprised that the shutter speed was too low for "you" to shoot at. in fact, most people who are not photographers just can't shoot at slow shutter speeds. some have such shaky hands that even 1/125this too low.

if you feel that the colors lack punch, then you could also increase the saturation to 0. but I think it's ok.
contrast looks ok for indirect lighting.

 

[CarrieK]

My cat in his favorite spot... looking at the birdies and squirrels through in the bay window
Taken in very low light.

 

[CarrieK]

Scary kitty Very low light.

 

[onesie13]

wow the second picture looks awesome, the first one....not so much lol

 

[Wiley_11]

Hey Vic I found your next phone!! http://gizmodo.com/5845043/the-pana...p-might-not-suck-at-being-a-camera-or-a-phone


Maybe mine also.

 

[warpdrive]

Hey Vic I found your next phone!! The Panasonic Lumix Phone 101P Might Not Suck at Being a Camera or a Phone


Maybe mine also.

OMG, it's water proof? gimme now. lol