HTC One delayed in US until Mid April
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Yea, b/c I'm talking to a wall! You REALLY think he just made up the mid April release timeframe? And then when he was asked to clarify whether his statement was for the US market he REITERATED that his response was, indeed, in regard to the US release? You can't POSSIBLY be that naive.
Nobody says that is even his real twiiter account.. I could hop on twitter anyday and make and account with the name Jason Mackenzie and everybody would think its him. You just take everything up front and don't ever read into it so I think youre the na?ve one
Two things I know for sure:
1. It will come eventually.
2. It will get here when it gets here.
Heck, the parts shortage for smartphones and tablets may not be the only hurdle this phone has to clear. Apple hasn't even sued them yet.
The only issue of import this creates is that HTC may not beat the Galaxy S4 to market. That said, most buyers of high-end flagship phones know what they're getting into before they buy and I haven't seen or heard many agnostics. Most potential buyers have already decided and having to wait an extra week or two won't convert more than a handful at most.
1. It will come eventually.
2. It will get here when it gets here.
Heck, the parts shortage for smartphones and tablets may not be the only hurdle this phone has to clear. Apple hasn't even sued them yet.
The only issue of import this creates is that HTC may not beat the Galaxy S4 to market. That said, most buyers of high-end flagship phones know what they're getting into before they buy and I haven't seen or heard many agnostics. Most potential buyers have already decided and having to wait an extra week or two won't convert more than a handful at most.
Agree with everything you said except Apple suing them. Believe they worked out a licencing agreement.
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Mid-April is only a month away. Keep your hats on, folks.
Yea but which hat!!! to many things to choose from AHHHHHH
LOL
Just think of how long we had to wait for the SGSII to come to the US. That was something like 5 or 6 months. The SGS-1 was announced at MWC in February and didn't make it to the US until July. I'm happy to wait ONLY till mid-April.
Just think of how long we had to wait for the SGSII to come to the US. That was something like 5 or 6 months. The SGS-1 was announced at MWC in February and didn't make it to the US until July. I'm happy to wait ONLY till mid-April.
Yeah but we expect that.. but HTC said the device will be out in march.. and pre-orders start the day of the event.. to over 80+ countries and so on.. since then.. no site has taken pre-orders besides phones4u and Rogers in canada
There is some pretty serious cash up for grabs in the US for the first next generation android to make it to market. Sony, HTC, and Samsung need to get it in gear. The iPhone 5S will soon start getting hyped. By July folks should be in a tizzy about when it will be launched and what it will do. So you have from now until July to sell, sell, sell.
Sony seems to not care about making a big splash in the US in 2013. The Xperia ZL is only going to be available unlocked on their site for a ridiculous price. So the US isn't even getting their real flagship, the Z. I wish Sony cared more, but I still view them as trying to figure out strategy after their breakup with Ericsson. Maybe next year for them. I fully expect Samsung and HTC to get it together in time to be successful in 2013. Especially Samsung, they're a well oiled machine at this point in the mobile game.
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HTC Says Its Next Phone Is Delayed Because It's No Longer A 'Tier-One' Customer
"The company has a problem managing its component suppliers as it has changed its order forecasts drastically and frequently following last year?s unexpected slump in shipments. HTC has had difficulty in securing adequate camera components as it is no longer a tier-one customer."
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I think that the HTC One will be plagued with problems during the coming month or so. Sad to say but I think HTC missed this round too and that Samsung will take the lead yet again. Let's see what Google/Motorola or LG bring to the table. I am quite excited for Google I/O, can't wait.
"The company has a problem managing its component suppliers as it has changed its order forecasts drastically and frequently following last year?s unexpected slump in shipments. HTC has had difficulty in securing adequate camera components as it is no longer a tier-one customer."
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I think that the HTC One will be plagued with problems during the coming month or so. Sad to say but I think HTC missed this round too and that Samsung will take the lead yet again. Let's see what Google/Motorola or LG bring to the table. I am quite excited for Google I/O, can't wait.
The US mobile market is fiercely competitive and will only get more so as new players large (HP) and small (Blu) keep lining up to try their luck. That's a good thing for consumers because it forces the players to keep innovating and not rest on their laurels. It's always sad to see a once-great company fall on hard times but HTC won't be the first one and it won't be the last.
I see their problem as having lost their way and alienating their core customers. HTC was a popular brand before they started locking bootloaders, eliminating slots for microSD cards and making phones with non-user replaceable batteries. While these things don't bother some buyers they are deal breakers for others and an unprofitable company struggling to survive isn't in a position to turn off a large percentage of their potential buyers. When was the last time you heard someone say, "Yeah, too bad about the Note 2 having a battery I can replace. I was going to buy it before I heard that. I'll never buy a phone with a battery I can replace".
I see their problem as having lost their way and alienating their core customers. HTC was a popular brand before they started locking bootloaders, eliminating slots for microSD cards and making phones with non-user replaceable batteries. While these things don't bother some buyers they are deal breakers for others and an unprofitable company struggling to survive isn't in a position to turn off a large percentage of their potential buyers. When was the last time you heard someone say, "Yeah, too bad about the Note 2 having a battery I can replace. I was going to buy it before I heard that. I'll never buy a phone with a battery I can replace".
I highly doubt non-removable batteries and non-expandable memory is why HTC hasn't been performing so well since 2011. Especially since the One X was only introduced last year. HTC was a popular brand because the mobile landscape wasn't established as much as it is now. They are up against a juggernaut in Samsung with their resources. Look at the marketing budget that Samsung has spent compared to all manufacturers. HTC tried to play Samsung's game and flood the market from low to high end with all these different devices...I mean how many Incredible EVO Desire Sensation One S V X XL 4G 3D mix and match names did they have? Then they tried to create their own version of the Galaxy line with the "One" series of X,V,S lines and keep from becoming convoluted. It was too late for that. Samsung has created a huge foothold with providers in the US with the success of the Galaxy S line...the same can be said for the Motorola-Verizon partnership with the Droid branding. Your example quote is almost as ridiculous as someone saying "I'm gonna buy an iPhone or Nexus4 because the battery isn't removable and I can't expand the storage. I was gonna get another phone, but when I heard those two phones have locked in batteries and locked amount of storage, I was sold. I'll never buy a phone with a battery that can be replaced."
HTC has decided to focus more on the strength of their company which has been in the industrial design of the device. The One X was always given praise for it's design in reviews. The HTC One continues to follow that design blueprint and keeping to a solid one piece means losing features like removable battery and expandable memory, while retaining a thin profile and solid feel ala Apple. The biggest knock on Samsung devices has always been their use of "cheap" materials which in reality may not be cheap, but creates a feel of it. It seems as HTC wants to be the direct opposite of Samsung's weakness in order to stay in the game. With the strength of Samsung's market visibility and resources, the mobile landscape is quickly becoming a two horse race with Apple and Samsung.
"You can't polish a turd, Beavis." - Butthead
If all it takes to be #1 is, "resources" and a, "marketing budget" you'd think Microsoft phones and Intel processors would be doing much better in the mobile market.
Oh, SNAP!
The tech market is very different from that of laundry detergent - it takes more than a cute commercial with a cool catch-phrase to turn a company around. At some point the products have to speak for themselves. In a fiercely competitive market even good products can get lost in the shuffle. Also-ran products from companies who don't understand their customers tend to fade much more quickly.
"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got." - Henry Ford
The fact is HTC's phones haven't been selling well. There are many reasons why but the most important one is that HTC has lost their way and they don't understand mobile customers as well as they used to. The way to correct this is to LISTEN to their customers and CHANGE their course - otherwise, they're doomed to fail.
I know HTC fanbois LOVE to hear about microSD cards and user-replaceable batteries so I'll throw this out. LG also isn't doing very well. Their LG Optimus G had great specs but didn't sell as well as they had hoped. The Optimus G doesn't have a microSD card slot or a user-replaceable battery. LG had focus groups and listened to the feedback they received from reviews and their users. Low and behold, the successor (LG Optimus G Pro) DOES have a user-replaceable battery and a microSD card slot. Will the LG Optimus G Pro outsell the new Samsung Galaxy S4? Nope. Will it outsell the Optimus G? Absolutely.
?If you want me to treat your ideas with more respect, get some better ideas.? - John Scalzi
Modern smartphones have a glass screen made of alkali-aluminosilicate glass, a side bezel a fraction of an inch thick and a removable backplate. All manufacturers are trying to get the largest display possible and shrink the border around the display so differences are minimal - no top-end phone has a 320x480 resolution or a resistive touchscreen. The backplate for a popular phone is easily replaced with aftermarket models for less than $20 - delivered. If you want brushed aluminum, pink with a Hello Kitty logo, tiger print or rhinestones they're all easy to find. This means that the only design issue a user has to put up with if they don't like it is the bezel and the border around the display. Most folks shell out for a case for their $500+ phones and this covers the side bezel so the, "design" "strength of their company" boils down to the bits of the border around the display that aren't covered by the case. Awfully weak value proposition.
If all it takes to be #1 is, "resources" and a, "marketing budget" you'd think Microsoft phones and Intel processors would be doing much better in the mobile market.
Oh, SNAP!
The tech market is very different from that of laundry detergent - it takes more than a cute commercial with a cool catch-phrase to turn a company around. At some point the products have to speak for themselves. In a fiercely competitive market even good products can get lost in the shuffle. Also-ran products from companies who don't understand their customers tend to fade much more quickly.
"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got." - Henry Ford
The fact is HTC's phones haven't been selling well. There are many reasons why but the most important one is that HTC has lost their way and they don't understand mobile customers as well as they used to. The way to correct this is to LISTEN to their customers and CHANGE their course - otherwise, they're doomed to fail.
I know HTC fanbois LOVE to hear about microSD cards and user-replaceable batteries so I'll throw this out. LG also isn't doing very well. Their LG Optimus G had great specs but didn't sell as well as they had hoped. The Optimus G doesn't have a microSD card slot or a user-replaceable battery. LG had focus groups and listened to the feedback they received from reviews and their users. Low and behold, the successor (LG Optimus G Pro) DOES have a user-replaceable battery and a microSD card slot. Will the LG Optimus G Pro outsell the new Samsung Galaxy S4? Nope. Will it outsell the Optimus G? Absolutely.
?If you want me to treat your ideas with more respect, get some better ideas.? - John Scalzi
Modern smartphones have a glass screen made of alkali-aluminosilicate glass, a side bezel a fraction of an inch thick and a removable backplate. All manufacturers are trying to get the largest display possible and shrink the border around the display so differences are minimal - no top-end phone has a 320x480 resolution or a resistive touchscreen. The backplate for a popular phone is easily replaced with aftermarket models for less than $20 - delivered. If you want brushed aluminum, pink with a Hello Kitty logo, tiger print or rhinestones they're all easy to find. This means that the only design issue a user has to put up with if they don't like it is the bezel and the border around the display. Most folks shell out for a case for their $500+ phones and this covers the side bezel so the, "design" "strength of their company" boils down to the bits of the border around the display that aren't covered by the case. Awfully weak value proposition.
c'mon. The iPhone sales have proven this is a BS argument for years now but you guys just can't stop trying to say those 2 things are the reason for Samsung success. Want to know why iPhone sells so well? Branding. Same goes for the Galaxy phones. No android OEM pumps money into market branding like Samsung does. And the OG Pro isn't going to sell any better than Sony, HTC, or anyone else who didn't spend an obscene amount of money advertising so comparing how it sells against itself is useless.
Yeah, because Apple does it so that makes it ok. Let me suggest to you that there are minivans with automatic transmissions that sell very well and performance cars with manual transmissions that sell very well. Putting a 3-speed automatic in a Corvette won't sell more units than the stick version, nor will putting a stick-shift in a minivan. It's Apples and Oranges. Most Apple buyers want something that, "just works" and don't want to hack their phones or sweat the details. They usually buy their accessories from Apple, willingly pay a premium for them and largely tend to look down on non-Apple accessories.
I'll keep the rest simple, since reading comprehension seems to be a challenge for you:
1) HTC's problem is that they have lost touch with what their customer wants.
2) If you're failing at something and don't change your approach, you will keep failing.
I'll keep the rest simple, since reading comprehension seems to be a challenge for you:
1) HTC's problem is that they have lost touch with what their customer wants.
2) If you're failing at something and don't change your approach, you will keep failing.
I think it's clear they're at least attempting to change their approach, with the exception of the two items you seem so fixated on. Marketing is a big part of why Samsung sells so many phones, in addition to the fact that they also make quality devices. Seems like people take personal offense to statements that in any way suggest that the phone/company they like isn't perfect. If you want to start tossing out statistics that are purely annectodate/speculative I know plenty of people who "jailbreak" and hack their iphones.
Also, in response to your "polishing a turd" comment
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I have been a sammy fan for 3+ years now. I never considered another phone brand simply because I always got, mainly pushed, to buy sammy. I did have an HTC Evo for a short while but my fiancee had her Evo for two years and loved it. The whole time I owned my last phone(Epic 4G Touch, SGS2) for nearly a year and a half, I never once bought another battery or ever concidered it. I have only removed the batter cover to get at the SD card and that was very rare. I also only have ever had an 8Gb card in there.
What I'm trying to say is that a removable battery and SD card never really did it for me on those phones. I just don't see how a person can justify that as a deal breaker. But to each there own.
as for why LG is having issues its not. The Nexus 4 is made buy LG and I know three people who own the phone and love it. Sammy is having a great time with sales simply because they played their cards right early in the game and it's paying off for them now. If sammy removed the SD and removable battery I bet no one would notice or ever care. Shoot I'm willing to bet that other than being on this forum for geeks that most everyday people who walk in and don't choose Apple is because they were pushed towards Android and pushed to Samsung. And of those only 30% or less will ever care about a SDcard or buy another battery and that 30% or less is us, the geekier group.... hell that really doesn't include me as I never bought another battery and have been usign the same 8gb SD card for the past 3 years. LOL I just don't think it matter's to the majority it's just the brand, marketing, and more so the sales person.
I have been a sammy fan for 3+ years now. I never considered another phone brand simply because I always got, mainly pushed, to buy sammy. I did have an HTC Evo for a short while but my fiancee had her Evo for two years and loved it. The whole time I owned my last phone(Epic 4G Touch, SGS2) for nearly a year and a half, I never once bought another battery or ever concidered it. I have only removed the batter cover to get at the SD card and that was very rare. I also only have ever had an 8Gb card in there.
What I'm trying to say is that a removable battery and SD card never really did it for me on those phones. I just don't see how a person can justify that as a deal breaker. But to each there own.
as for why LG is having issues its not. The Nexus 4 is made buy LG and I know three people who own the phone and love it. Sammy is having a great time with sales simply because they played their cards right early in the game and it's paying off for them now. If sammy removed the SD and removable battery I bet no one would notice or ever care. Shoot I'm willing to bet that other than being on this forum for geeks that most everyday people who walk in and don't choose Apple is because they were pushed towards Android and pushed to Samsung. And of those only 30% or less will ever care about a SDcard or buy another battery and that 30% or less is us, the geekier group.... hell that really doesn't include me as I never bought another battery and have been usign the same 8gb SD card for the past 3 years. LOL I just don't think it matter's to the majority it's just the brand, marketing, and more so the sales person.
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