LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

still looking; gentleman on the Verizon forum who posted this also looking... he tells me,

"Yes there were one for the V710, but there was one for Blackberry where it had Bluetooth and it was later removed in an update. There was a lot of hoopla about it. Since recent things happening with BB, and Verizon including other lawsuits it's probably buried at 100+ pages. I will see if I can find it."

I'm not sure what he means "buried at 100+ pages"... maybe some legal transcript, but anyway still looking because I would really like to know just exactly how we got into this screwed up system of carriers buying in or not to all these different features, and then it is all OK and all legal as long as somewhere in the fine print it is stated "features may vary by carrier" or some other such nonsense...

We went down a wrong path somewhere... especially when you don't see this kind of thing overseas (supposedly, anyway?) but they do seem to have better phones than what we're offered... like the LG v34... the waterproof version... or S7 Edges with more than 32GB... not available here, though.

Carriers in the US have power over what phones are available to consumers. It's basically been that way since day 1.

You want them to stop?

All these cool unlocked phones - buy them.
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Most definitely. Another thing to consider...the Note 7 is done. You're not going to be getting any future updates and what are you going to do when Sammy sends the "kill" code to the phone? Do you want to keep using an obsolete phone and miss out on any deals being handed out now? So you just keep on playing with fire, pun intended, and when it stops working next week, next month, and nobody is offering any discounts on replacing it, you'll be stuck forking out several hundred dollars for a new phone.

...which are exactly the very reasons why I've spent quite a few hours investigating the Pixel XL and the v20 and the S7 Edge... (My husband asked me pretty much the same thing this morning... LOL)

I guess I'm just over it for now... Over trying to find a replacement phone... Not willing to be annoyed 10-20 times a day every time I pick up a phone I'm just not even remotely happy with. The v20 I could have been happy not unhappy with. If it was delivered to me with everything working that I expect to work... which for me is everything or doggone close to it. Like when I buy a Samsung...

I'm stubborn, I have a mental block, my OCD has kicked in... whatever the case, I'm not paying nearly full price for a 7 month old 32GB phone (S7 Edge), or a phone with lab tests showing weak antenna & bad camera lens flare (Pixel), or a phone with what I consider premium features disabled/not-supported/not-bought-into/nah-nah-nah-we-don't-have-to (v20).

As for security updates? Meh... Big Red is never in a hurry to push those out anyway... Verizon will give people warning when they are about to shut off our Note 7's. Then I will revisit this exercise in futility... :-)

By January or so, maybe something else will be out that I might be interested in. I might go for an S8 then trade-off when the Note 8 comes out, for example. We'll see...
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Carriers in the US have power over what phones are available to consumers. It's basically been that way since day 1.

You want them to stop?

All these cool unlocked phones - buy them.

Ummm... I did just buy one - the unlocked version of the v20... and it wasn't so cool... I'm boxing it up to go back to B&H today.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg...0-us-996-verizon-has-anyone-already-done.html

But, I'm open to suggestions? What do you like?
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Just curious....... Why cant you just keep your unlocked phone and activate to another carrier such as T-Mobile, or AT&T that is known to have the "FM feature activated" ?? Why does it have to be Verizon?
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

I think you're right that it might have been ALL related to the Motorola phone not the Blackberry phone, (regardless of what I was reading on the Verizon forum); because I can't find it. let me investigate that a bit further by asking the one who posted that for me if he has a reference, and further see what I can find, too - because it seems to be relevant to the discussion.

And no, it's not just lack of an FM radio, but that plus Smart Settings removed, plus Google In Apps Search Shortcut removed. And the fact that neither LG or Verizon will tell you what they will or won't support...
Not just LG. I spoke to 2 different guys in samsung tech support today and both agreed s7e supports mhl and hdmi. I know for a fact it does not. I told them that but each assured me hdmi would work fine wi mhl adapter. These companies don't tell tech support anything
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Just curious....... Why cant you just keep your unlocked phone and activate to another carrier such as T-Mobile, or AT&T that is known to have the "FM feature activated" ?? Why does it have to be Verizon? [url]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/slave2_ragdolls/thcats.gif[/URL]

...yeah... so wish I could! You missed where I mentioned it earlier I think but I live in a remote area of the Arkansas Ozarks, behind a bluff on a river... Verizon has a tower south of me. Nothing else works here - yet!
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

...yeah... so wish I could! You missed where I mentioned it earlier I think but I live in a remote area of the Arkansas Ozarks, behind a bluff on a river... Verizon has a tower south of me. Nothing else works here - yet!
Guess that I missed that part......
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Ummm... I did just buy one - the unlocked version of the v20... and it wasn't so cool... I'm boxing it up to go back to B&H today.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg...0-us-996-verizon-has-anyone-already-done.html

But, I'm open to suggestions? What do you like?

As a Verizon customer, these are the other options for unlocked phones that will work out of the box:

Nexus 6
Nexus 5X
Nexus 6P
Pixel
Pixel XL
Motorola Moto X Pure Edition (third generation)
Motorola Moto G (fourth generation)
Motorola Moto G Plus (fourth generation)
Motorola Moto G Play (fourth generation) - there's also a prepaid Verizon version of this phone
iPhone 6 and up (including SE)
Samsung Galaxy S7
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge
LG G5
BlackBerry PRIV

As far as Verizon blocking or disabling FM radio, the hilarious thing is that I know that the Verizon prepaid variants of the Motorola Moto G (first gen) and Motorola Moto E (second gen) allow the use of Motorola's FM radio app.
 
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Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

As a Verizon customer, these are the other options for unlocked phones that will work out of the box:

Nexus 6
Nexus 5X
Nexus 6P
Pixel
Pixel XL
Motorola Moto X Pure Edition (third generation)
Motorola Moto G (fourth generation)
Motorola Moto G Plus (fourth generation)
Motorola Moto G Play (fourth generation) - there's also a prepaid Verizon version of this phone
iPhone 6 and up (including SE)
Samsung Galaxy S7
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge
LG G5

As far as Verizon blocking or disabling FM radio, the hilarious thing is that I know that the Verizon prepaid variants of the Motorola Moto G (first gen) and Motorola Moto E (second gen) allow the use of Motorola's FM radio app.

Which one(s) do you personally like best?
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

...which are exactly the very reasons why I've spent quite a few hours investigating the Pixel XL and the v20 and the S7 Edge... (My husband asked me pretty much the same thing this morning... LOL)

I guess I'm just over it for now... Over trying to find a replacement phone... Not willing to be annoyed 10-20 times a day every time I pick up a phone I'm just not even remotely happy with. The v20 I could have been happy not unhappy with. If it was delivered to me with everything working that I expect to work... which for me is everything or doggone close to it. Like when I buy a Samsung...

I'm stubborn, I have a mental block, my OCD has kicked in... whatever the case, I'm not paying nearly full price for a 7 month old 32GB phone (S7 Edge), or a phone with lab tests showing weak antenna & bad camera lens flare (Pixel), or a phone with what I consider premium features disabled/not-supported/not-bought-into/nah-nah-nah-we-don't-have-to (v20).

As for security updates? Meh... Big Red is never in a hurry to push those out anyway... Verizon will give people warning when they are about to shut off our Note 7's. Then I will revisit this exercise in futility... :-)

By January or so, maybe something else will be out that I might be interested in. I might go for an S8 then trade-off when the Note 8 comes out, for example. We'll see...

Well since you're not leaving Vzw in the next couple years, why not jump on the Black Friday deal Vzw is having this Friday and get an S7 for $10/mn for 24/mns and see what's available at the end? The Note 8 probably won't be out until 2018 and give it a few months to iron out any issues and BOOM, it's time to upgrade.
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Well since you're not leaving Vzw in the next couple years, why not jump on the Black Friday deal Vzw is having this Friday and get an S7 for $10/mn for 24/mns and see what's available at the end? The Note 8 probably won't be out until 2018 and give it a few months to iron out any issues and BOOM, it's time to upgrade.

Good suggestion, good suggestion... I appreciate the input, and I will consider that.

Off the top of my head, for me... 1.) I think the S8 will come out in the Jan/Feb time frame with the option for a larger screen(?) I hope, which I would be more interested in. 2.) As far as the Note 8, I'm hoping for a lot quicker delivery than that! Do you hear me, Samsung? :-), and 3.) right now, for the first time in years, I'm on month-to-month on all 4 lines of my plan. I would like to stay in that position for awhile... I've been hearing rumors locally about AT&T putting in a tower south of me, somewhere near the Verizon one. If my carrier options do indeed open up, then I won't be stuck in contracts.

But again, ty for the suggestion.
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Good suggestion, good suggestion... I appreciate the input, and I will consider that.

Off the top of my head, for me... 1.) I think the S8 will come out in the Jan/Feb time frame with the option for a larger screen(?) I hope, which I would be more interested in. 2.) As far as the Note 8, I'm hoping for a lot quicker delivery than that! Do you hear me, Samsung? :-), and 3.) right now, for the first time in years, I'm on month-to-month on all 4 lines of my plan. I would like to stay in that position for awhile... I've been hearing rumors locally about AT&T putting in a tower south of me, somewhere near the Verizon one. If my carrier options do indeed open up, then I won't be stuck in contracts.

But again, ty for the suggestion.

Yeah, I knew from reading your posts that you're likely to pay full price for your phone/s, and I figured the GS8 would have caught your eye. I don't pay full price for cellphones, guess that's why we've been month-to-month for a few years now and I have an Nokia Icon I bought 3rd party, my wife has an iPhone 5c and my stepson has an iPhone 4s, lol. The Vzw bf deal on the GS7 is right up my alley and with the failings of WP10, decided it's time to switch. Oh, and I've ordered the Gear S3.
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Yeah, I knew from reading your posts that you're likely to pay full price for your phone/s, and I figured the GS8 would have caught your eye. I don't pay full price for cellphones, guess that's why we've been month-to-month for a few years now and I have an Nokia Icon I bought 3rd party, my wife has an iPhone 5c and my stepson has an iPhone 4s, lol. The Vzw bf deal on the GS7 is right up my alley and with the failings of WP10, decided it's time to switch. Oh, and I've ordered the Gear S3.

I'll tell you this, though... if they offer the Note8 at 50% off for a 2 year golden noose around my neck? I'm in! LOL
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Good suggestion, good suggestion... I appreciate the input, and I will consider that.

Off the top of my head, for me... 1.) I think the S8 will come out in the Jan/Feb time frame with the option for a larger screen(?) I hope, which I would be more interested in. 2.) As far as the Note 8, I'm hoping for a lot quicker delivery than that! Do you hear me, Samsung? :-), and 3.) right now, for the first time in years, I'm on month-to-month on all 4 lines of my plan. I would like to stay in that position for awhile... I've been hearing rumors locally about AT&T putting in a tower south of me, somewhere near the Verizon one. If my carrier options do indeed open up, then I won't be stuck in contracts.

But again, ty for the suggestion.
The s7 edge is only $15 a month too but does not apply to new blue one.
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Well, I'm finishing boxing up both my Verizon v20 and Unlocked v20 to ship back to Verizon & B&H respectively... it's been a good test drive, but the v20 is just not the phone for me, at this time anyway, with Verizon.
Thanks to all who helped me wade through this!
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

Well, I'm finishing boxing up both my Verizon v20 and Unlocked v20 to ship back to Verizon & B&H respectively... it's been a good test drive, but the v20 is just not the phone for me, at this time anyway, with Verizon.
Thanks to all who helped me wade through this!
What was the key problem? For me it was the LCD screen.
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

What was the key problem? For me it was the LCD screen.
For me, it was a couple of different things. As long as I didn't set it beside a Samsung phone, I think I could have learned to live with the LCD screen.

On the Verizon model, no FM radio, and the Google in apps search shortcut being removed were my main gripes. Google in-app search shortcut is awesome... It's something I would have used at least 10 times a day.

Smart settings being disabled also bothered me, but some people pointed out that I could do the same thing better with macrodroid, so I could get over that.

On the unlocked model, again, no FM radio, and the loss of video calling, no wifi calling. Loss of video calling was a biggie.

On both phones, I really did miss waterproof.

At the end of the day, I realize that some of these things would have been different had I been able to be with a different carrier.

Overall, it just felt like way too much compromise. I shouldn't have to try so hard to like a phone.

I loved the audio...
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

All good points. The only one I couldn't get over was the screen. I often watch Netflix or NFL games. They look better (to my eyes I understand this is an individual thing) on my old Note 3.
 
Re: LG v20 - No FM Radio; A Verizon "Get The Runaround" Special! Help Me if You're Annoyed, too.

The Note 8 probably won't be out until 2018 and give it a few months to iron out any issues and BOOM, it's time to upgrade.
Probably a poor choice of words to use in conjunction w/ a Note phone.
 

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