The first note I won't buy? (all discussion about lack of microSD and removable battery must go here)

[charlie hustle]

Im not gonna get it. But this may be the first note i wont buy for different reasons. Im in love with the s6 edge +. If im going to go without the sd card, then my tradeoff is gonna be a beautiful phone. I played with the s6 edge yesterday and i fell in love with it. Ill sacrifice the lack of sd card and stylus for that screen.
And if i want my stylus, i can trade that phone with my wife's note 4. She wont complain after seeing that screen.

 

[HolyBuckeye]

Im not gonna get it. But this may be the first note i wont buy for different reasons. Im in love with the s6 edge +. If im going to go without the sd card, then my tradeoff is gonna be a beautiful phone. I played with the s6 edge yesterday and i fell in love with it. Ill sacrifice the lack of sd card and stylus for that screen.
And if i want my stylus, i can trade that phone with my wife's note 4. She wont complain after seeing that screen.

Thought about the s6 edge+ but with the problems that the s6 had it scares me a bit

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[wvtarheel]

Re: Flagship Device?

People like myself can calm all the way down if we just not think of the 5 as a flagship device. I don't believe Samsung considers the Note 5 a leader of the pack device. The Note 5 is the "Next Thing" not the "Next Big Thing". Samsung's new tablets have been gutted as well. ...and they are working on a Snapdragon 808 flip phone.

I usually buy 2 Notes every year. The wife wants the new Note 5 and it has been pre-ordered. I am currently taking applications for the "Next Big Thing".

I like the Note 5 and mine will hit my house tomorrow. But, I think the LG G4 Pro edition might top it and be the true successor to the Note 4, while the Note 5 is more of a [language removed by mod] love child of the galaxy S6 and a note. The rumors on the LG Pro indicate it will be more of the old school super user device with removable everything.

 

[haydenbe]

Re: Are you gonna buy the Galaxy Note 5?

I had the Note 2 & 3 but i didnt get the Note 4 because i wanted to get away from Samsung. If Samsung would put back the removable battery or at least expandable memory i might consider going back to the Note.

 

[dcstuntman]

So, you don't use a charger? that's maybe why you need to swap out.

I don't use micro-usb charger to my phone most of the time because I have the freedom not to. It's not that I NEED to swap out, its that I want to. The versatility of the the removable battery is what made it great. How was it inconvenient for people to have removable batteries for the past 4 generations of the Note. If they didn't want to remove it, they JUST DIDN'T DO IT. I never heard one person say... ewww it has a removable battery, I'm not going to buy that device. I have, though heard people say the opposite - not only about phones, but other devices like cameras or remote control vehicles.

I think I started the habit of just using the batteries was after my original battery started draining quicker than usual and I picked up a couple spares. I didn't want to just use one new battery - only to see its life shortened... plus NOT using a battery is also not good for its life. So by constantly swapping (if you call once a day constant) I feel I'm extending the life of all 3 batteries (yes I still keep the original in rotation as well.)

Sure I'll plug it in occasionally, but I have the choice to NOT plugin if desired. As a side benefit, I consider the fact that I've had a least 4 devices since the OG ipod Touch where the charging connector eventually stopped working. For the ipod touch... that meant it was a paper-weight. For my Nexus 7 2012 (sealed battery) the only saving grace was the pogo plugs (I can charge through the dock.) While this is hardly a primary reason, I just realized after all this discussion that swapping the battery as I do can also help preserve the fragile micro usb connector. If my other devices had the removable battery - it could have extended their usable life after the connector failed.

Once again I'll state it.. External battery packs are not the same. They don't instantly bring phone to 100%, often not to full capacity; they are bulkier than a spare internal - and don't forget to bring the cable; and having that pack dangle from your phone's usb port while in hand, pocket, or backpack WILL put unnecessary stress on that usb connection.

To me the side-benefit of removable battery is greater than side benefit of sealed battery. In fact, what IS the side benefit of the sealed battery of the Note5? Did they add water resistance? Did they make the battery bigger since it doesn't need extra internal space? Or did they do it to cave into the tech press, many of whom weren't buying their phones to begin with?

I don't need a tutorial on how to plug in a phone... I'm not dumb. I just choose to use the device differently than you do. I chose to make use of the options given to me. And my usage gives a tangible -real world - benefit to me as well. Again what was the hassle of having the option of removable battery?

 

[dcstuntman]

Re: The first note I won't buy?

My Note 2 (from December 2012) is still running with its original battery and it holds a charge just fine.

That's pretty impressive. Some people get lucky, I guess.

Though it may be the difference of holding a charge "fine" and a holding a charge/lasting like new. It happens so gradual that sometimes you don't even notice.

Most rechargable batteries exhibit the effect of lower capacity (right term?) after so many cycles. I think my eneloop AA's say something like they're rated for 500 cycles. Not sure about phone battery tech - but if its similar, and you're charging once a day that means you could expect diminished capacity after about a year and a half. Depending on your usage - you may not notice it... but extremely heavy users (who charge more often = more recharge cycles than typical) could see this sooner, and be more noticable that their device doesn't get them through a full day's work anymore.

 

[Mago27]

I was a Samsung fan too, owning most their flagship: Galaxy S1, S4, Note 2, I need a new phone this year, but is very unlikely to be another samsung.

The issue with micro SD is somthing I can deal, thera are lots of USB-OTG options for storage, plus 32 GB is enough for me, no big deal the lack of SD.

But there are an big issue with the S6/S6e their NON-REMOVABLE Battey also IS'NT SERVICEABLE, which means asap the battey dies, the phone dies, no matter the condition of the LCS, Electronics, System Updates, you can not replace the S6/S6e battery neither seems possible at service centre, other devices with fixed battery allow an moderated skilled technician to replace the battery with std tools, not the case of the S6, so basically you are buying a phone programmed to die.

Still no reports on the Serviceablility of the Note 5's battery, once I read about I'll decide to give another chance to Samsung or sitch to an 2015 Nexus.

 

[jim2112]

Another variable is the signal strength of the local phone tower. If a person lives close to a tower and gets a strong signal, their phone battery will last much longer. A weak phone signal will cause a much faster battery drain. This is another reason removable battery is a good idea. If you have a weak signal where you live or work, then you may need to charge it a few times per day if you use it a lot. I have noticed a weaker signal in many area's I have been lately. I thought it was the phone, but it's the local signal. That said, with Verizon charging full price for all new phones and not subsidizing phone purchases every couple years, it will become very evident to the short sighted how valuable a removable battery can be. Those claiming the Note 5 is a much better phone than another can not possibly know until it has been on the market a while.

 

[xcalibur1011]

Re: Perspective

Just to keep things into perspective. There are 2 groups of people. We as humans don't want to believe that this is us, but it IS us. Even me!

1) They love everything. They try to defend the most horrific changes to the device, sometimes make up reasons why its better.. "A smaller batter is more heat efficient and this will give you more screen time...."?!?!?! These are the people who don't realize theiy are doing it as much. I fall into this category. I personally like the Note 5. Sure its not everything to everyone, but the 3 biggest issues are certainly not "deal breakers" for me. I can easily live without them... of course we are all different.

2) they hate everything, the next thing is going to suck compared to the last thing. The term "deal breaker" is tossed around a lot along with over exaggerated reactions to minor flaws... even now in your head you just went "I don't consider the Ir blaster to be a "minor flaw!" This is traditionally followed by the grander philosophical reference to the end of life as we know it, or at the very least to the company who brought out the offending device.

This happens every time a new device comes out.... case in point.. some thread titles from previous devices first few days....

Note 4
- Note 4 Samsung's feel cheap & are bloated......
- Note 4 Deal Makers and Breakers?
- Note 4 Underwhelmed after the reveal
- Note 4 Anyone else underwhelmed?
- Note 4 Again 5.7inch?
- Note 4 Disappointed with the camera improvements?

We will learn to accept the limitations of the device, or we will learn to use another brand device. In my case, so long as it has an S-Pen I will be in. I can't leave it, so they can do whatever they want to it, and I will be there.

Took the words right out of my mouth. I had the LG G2 which didn't have a removable battery or sd card. People said that is was a underrated device.

 

[cybertec69]

Re: Note 3 to Note 5?

If you don't need a removable battery or expandable storage then the Note 5 is a great choice. Other than the two things I mentioned, it's better than the Note 4 pretty much across the board

Better than the Note 4 across the board, stop inhaling the funny gas, LOL.

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[knighthawk321]

All this hooraw about everything streaming from the cloud so we don't need expandable storage neglects one major point. Not everyone has the unlimited data plan necessary to make such an idea work. Most of us have limited data, which, if we exceed those limits, costs a significant fee. Until they bring back unlimited data plans, or we all get rich, expandable storage has its place.

 

[cybertec69]

Re: Note 3 to Note 5?

Do you guys think it will be worth going from the Note 3 to the 5? I see a lot want to stay with the 4. I think my N3 is getting on it's final legs here soon (having trouble receiving text messages among other things)

Not having a removable battery and no SD slot makes no difference to me as I never used the extra storage and I never use more than the 1 battery

Also If I make the move this weekend, I would have to go on Verizon's device payment plan (or whatever the heck it's called now)..or I can wait until February when my contract is up. Is this phone worth going on that plan you think?

You can get an almost new Note 4 for what you would pay for a Note 5 on a new two year contract $300 initial payment and $20 payments each month for another 2 years, and you would be tied down for another two years. This is where I got my new Note 4, www.swappa.com , never buy a device when it is first released, wait for the reviews and bugs to be sorted out, and in 6 month's time it can be had for a fraction of the cost, a smartphone is like a car, it loses value real quick. You will not be disappointed with the Note 4, which is still a great device, sorry but the a Note 5 is not $400 better than the Note 4, because that is how much more you would be paying for the a Note 5, and with the Note 4 you have more options just like you have with your Note 3.

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[Ry]

All this hooraw about everything streaming from the cloud so we don't need expandable storage neglects one major point. Not everyone has the unlimited data plan necessary to make such an idea work. Most of us have limited data, which, if we exceed those limits, costs a significant fee. Until they bring back unlimited data plans, or we all get rich, expandable storage has its place.

Sounds like a few are already making that point.

Thing is, don't buy it if it doesn't have what you need.

But know your reasons for not buying it may not matter to the people that will buy it.

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[rushmore]

Another variable is the signal strength of the local phone tower. If a person lives close to a tower and gets a strong signal, their phone battery will last much longer. A weak phone signal will cause a much faster battery drain. This is another reason removable battery is a good idea. If you have a weak signal where you live or work, then you may need to charge it a few times per day if you use it a lot. I have noticed a weaker signal in many area's I have been lately. I thought it was the phone, but it's the local signal. That said, with Verizon charging full price for all new phones and not subsidizing phone purchases every couple years, it will become very evident to the short sighted how valuable a removable battery can be. Those claiming the Note 5 is a much better phone than another can not possibly know until it has been on the market a while.

Rationalizing to people that use their own standards as litmus for everyone else is futile. The Cult of the Cardless are a new brand of tyranny. Freeeeeddduuuummm!

 

[rushmore]

Re: Note 3 to Note 5?

Better than the Note 4 across the board, stop inhaling the funny gas, LOL.

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And you appear to be inhaling crack magnet glass

 

[cybertec69]

Re: Note 3 to Note 5?

And you appear to be inhaling crack magnet glass

We can go back and forth with this, but I don't have time to argue with a child.

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[Aquila]

Moderator Note: No we can't do this. It is time to stop.

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[robertopod1968]

I was a Samsung fan too, owning most their flagship: Galaxy S1, S4, Note 2, I need a new phone this year, but is very unlikely to be another samsung.

The issue with micro SD is somthing I can deal, thera are lots of USB-OTG options for storage, plus 32 GB is enough for me, no big deal the lack of SD.

But there are an big issue with the S6/S6e their NON-REMOVABLE Battey also IS'NT SERVICEABLE, which means asap the battey dies, the phone dies, no matter the condition of the LCS, Electronics, System Updates, you can not replace the S6/S6e battery neither seems possible at service centre, other devices with fixed battery allow an moderated skilled technician to replace the battery with std tools, not the case of the S6, so basically you are buying a phone programmed to die.

Still no reports on the Serviceablility of the Note 5's battery, once I read about I'll decide to give another chance to Samsung or sitch to an 2015 Nexus.

The battery will be replaceable. You don't have to throw the phone away if anything ever does go wrong with it. Any repair shop will be able to swap it out for you in probably 20 minutes. Drop it off. Get some lunch and bam...a new battery. No. Not quite as fast as user replaceable. But not the end of the phone

 

[UJ95x]

Re: Note 3 to Note 5?

Better than the Note 4 across the board, stop inhaling the funny gas, LOL.

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I own a Note 4, and I have no problem admitting that. Like I said, if you don't need the removable battery and expandable storage, the 5 is better, even if only a little bit. The S6 camera and display were already better than the Note 4, and I expect some improvements on both of those for the Note. The battery is slightly smaller, but with more efficient hardware, it should be similar if not slightly better. Users with it are already reporting 6-7 hours of SoT on it. It also charges faster, both wired and non-wired, and is more ergonomic.

 

[tadpoles]

I was a Samsung fan too, owning most their flagship: Galaxy S1, S4, Note 2, I need a new phone this year, but is very unlikely to be another samsung.

The issue with micro SD is somthing I can deal, thera are lots of USB-OTG options for storage, plus 32 GB is enough for me, no big deal the lack of SD.

But there are an big issue with the S6/S6e their NON-REMOVABLE Battey also IS'NT SERVICEABLE, which means asap the battey dies, the phone dies, no matter the condition of the LCS, Electronics, System Updates, you can not replace the S6/S6e battery neither seems possible at service centre, other devices with fixed battery allow an moderated skilled technician to replace the battery with std tools, not the case of the S6, so basically you are buying a phone programmed to die.

Still no reports on the Serviceablility of the Note 5's battery, once I read about I'll decide to give another chance to Samsung or sitch to an 2015 Nexus.

I've read folks saying that their local shop CAN replace a degraded battery. I'm trying not to be bummed about it but since my Note 4 is in almost-new condition it doesn't really matter.

from my old nexus 5