Where's Froyo for the Fascinate?

[Kevin Gossett]

Just switched over to one of the stupidfast kernals last night, and battery life seems pretty comarable to what I had before... JT's super clean ROM with the stock kernal, I was getting a solid two days' worth of battery

 

[Drootz]

For what it's worth I just got of the phone with vzw tech support. After resolving my issue. I asked what the deal was with froyo and when are we gonna get it? The tech I talked to said that the fascinate will be skipping froyo and going straight to gingerbread.

He said the samsung tablet will get it first then the fascinates.....

I call bs but we will see...i hope he's right!

Drootz

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[Chris Kerrigan]

For what it's worth I just got of the phone with vzw tech support. After resolving my issue. I asked what the deal was with froyo and when are we gonna get it? The tech I talked to said that the fascinate will be skipping froyo and going straight to gingerbread.

He said the samsung tablet will get it first then the fascinates.....

I call bs but we will see...i hope he's right!

Drootz

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Heh, that's what we all wish, but we all know the sort of BS that spews out of the mouths of VZW tech/CS reps. No knock on you, it's a good question to ask, but I'll definitely believe it when I see it. And I'm banking on I won't be seeing Gingerbread before FroYo

 

[TedLWJR]

BS on that, had i known how hard hardware updates would be to get I would of went with the Droid X. I'll know next time, guess it time to delve deeper into ROMS seeing as Froyo won't be here for a while.

 

[RobUM2011]

At this point they might as well skip FroYo. I'm (partially) sure Samsung has been testing Gingerbread.. and it's likely it will start to trickle out for other devices. FroYo is yesterday's operating system. Does that mean it'll work out that way? No.. we'll probably get FroYo in January or February.. and Gingerbread by November or December. At that point whatever is after Honeycomb will probably be in the testing stages. Unfortunately that's the way the cookie (or other cleverly named dessert item) crumbles. Coming from Blackberry I'm use to it though.. I'd hate to compare to Apple, but I think they do it best. I owned an iPhone for 8 months back when the very first one came out. All updates were done straight from Apple, since there were no alterations to the OS by the carrier. Takes out the middlemen, and prevents this cat and mouse game.

 

[NickA]

I'd hate to compare to Apple, but I think they do it best. I owned an iPhone for 8 months back when the very first one came out. All updates were done straight from Apple, since there were no alterations to the OS by the carrier. Takes out the middlemen, and prevents this cat and mouse game.

I have had this thought all along, and I can't believe more people haven't brought it up. I love how my iPhone (and iPod) get updated at the same time. No waiting for an update, no checking my phone constantly for two weeks while an update is being rolled out. Apple is usually pretty close to the date they commit to as well.

In my list of things that I think make Android look inferior is how the update process works. And it's actually the carriers and not Google. While I don't like how much control Apple likes to have, it works. It would be nice if there were a Nexus S for every carrier, with no bloat and the latest/greatest OS.

 

[bduschel]

Thats my thinking, because Gingerbread is so close, why bother with Froyo? If it hasnt pushed thru by now? Chances are, you wont see it anytime soon.

 

[voghan]

To hell with Froyo! I'm rocking Gingerbread.....theme on my phone. Check it out.

[Theme] Ultimate GingerBread ~DJ05~ ~V2.5~[Updated 12/17/10] - xda-developers

 

[adellc3]

DJ05 fixed the gps problem altogether. So that should be true for froyo as well.



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It did? Well for some reason, according to google maps and google navigation at the moment, I'm in the middle of a lake.:O
When I'm clearly not. In fact, I am actually sitting in my living room, which is not even close to a lake.

 

[Chris Kerrigan]

It did? Well for some reason, according to google maps and google navigation at the moment, I'm in the middle of a lake.:O
When I'm clearly not. In fact, I am actually sitting in my living room, which is not even close to a lake.

Yeah but keep in mind GPS can get kinda screwey indoors. I mean, it usually works, but I've had it tell me I was in the middle of the Yukon one time when I was indoors.

 

[brackett5]

I just want the gps fix and flash other than that I dont care what we go to and I would like it sometime soon. Not next winter.

 

[Sta11i0n]

Yeah but keep in mind GPS can get kinda screwey indoors. I mean, it usually works, but I've had it tell me I was in the middle of the Yukon one time when I was indoors.

Agreed. Indoors it always tells me I'm blocks away from my actual location and takes a couple minutes to get a fix. As soon as I step outside or I'm in my truck, which would be the times I'd actually use it, it's dead accurate and fast.

 

[jackmei2]

I'm starting to want Froyo since new app updates such as gmail and facebook are coming out solely for Froyo or with features that you can only access with Froyo. the new gmail app looks nice and for facebook, you can only get push notifications if you have froyo... so I'd hate to be left behind on app updates just because we are behind on the system update.

 

[icu]

My GPS has worked flawlessly OotB I guess i just lucked out that way.

Things are working well for me and perhaps it's due to my newness with Android in general that I'm not too upset over the update, but being denied. access to newer apps like Gmail and Youtube etc. (really don't need Flash) is a bit of "wtf?" moment. Beyond that a performance boost is always nice.

Of course at this rate we might get a Nexus S Gingerbread ported ROM before we get Froyo.

 

[joebob2000]

What would make more sense for Samsung to keep people working on? FroYo fixes for whiny verizon customers or Gingerbread fixes for their Nexus S? Although I am sure they have a thousand engineers so it doesn't matter either way, but it wouldn't surprise me if they already ceased any froyo work and have everyone (including those responsible for the galaxy s) working on gingerbread. It's just cheaper to have everyone working on the same code.

 

[Sta11i0n]

Galaxy S with Android 2.1 OS

Do you want the whole world in your hands? How about the whole universe? Tens of thousands of apps populate Android Market -- everything from popular games to productivity tools to constellation maps. Powered by the latest Android platform (and upgradeable to 2.2), this phone fully integrates with Google Mobile Services. You're now at one with your Gmail account, Google Maps, YouTube videos and more.

-Samsung.com


Don't give up hope yet.

 

[RobUM2011]

What would make more sense for Samsung to keep people working on? FroYo fixes for whiny verizon customers or Gingerbread fixes for their Nexus S? Although I am sure they have a thousand engineers so it doesn't matter either way, but it wouldn't surprise me if they already ceased any froyo work and have everyone (including those responsible for the galaxy s) working on gingerbread. It's just cheaper to have everyone working on the same code.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the Nexus S has any form of a Samsung OS? Pretty sure it's pure Google, which I would assume means Google is the only one worrying about updates for that particular device. Again, I'm not claiming to know much about how this works.. but if it isn't TouchWiz, my guess is Samsung isn't too worried about the operating system on the Nexus S.

 

[Kevin Gossett]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the Nexus S has any form of a Samsung OS? Pretty sure it's pure Google, which I would assume means Google is the only one worrying about updates for that particular device. Again, I'm not claiming to know much about how this works.. but if it isn't TouchWiz, my guess is Samsung isn't too worried about the operating system on the Nexus S.

Agreed, the updates for the Nexus S will come directly from Google. So while Samsung probably has people who worked directly with Google on the OS, it didn't come from Samsung.

 

[xgunther]

Oh how I wish wish wish we could crack the RIL and get an AOSP experience.

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[icu]

My hand-held computer didn't come with installation disks. I'd like to wipe my drive and reinstall from scratch, please.

I would have paid say $50 extra (over the $0 I paid ...) to get my phone with just plain jane vanilla Android on-board. If their added bits and bobs are so great give me the option to install them?

Sometimes I wish Google had been a little less "open" in allowing manufacturers and carriers to modify the core OS. I'm unfamiliar with iOS - does Apple allow AT&T to shove anything on their phone? (I doubt it)