Where's Froyo for the Fascinate?

[DroidXcon]

Agreed. Sounds like you have an unstable kernel causing FCs like that. DJ05 has fixed GPS. I'm not crying about flash. Even if I could put apps on my SD card I wouldn't. I'm already using too much of it with media.

I like the Avatar Killa

 

[Sta11i0n]

Thanks. Figured it's about time I get one. Whipped it up earlier tonight.

 

[DroidXcon]

Thanks. Figured it's about time I get one. Whipped it up earlier tonight.

Looks good mine seems kind of to small now, i think im having avatar envy lol

 

[Sta11i0n]

Looks good mine seems kind of to small now, i think im having avatar envy lol

I'm still playing around with different ideas so you might see it change a few more times. Case in point. ^

 

[Pocketcity]

I thought by spending several weeks away from this site and an Internet search that I would miraculously happen upon Froyo released. Nada. You have to wonder if you could sit down and plan a launch for a new device that could alienate more reviewers, potential customers and users than Samsung and Verizon did for this phone. Your engineers spend thousands of hours creating a top shelf product and the front office people and the marketing people just throw millions of dollars of sales away. This little computer/phone could have come out as a star and at the top of every list. Instead, in a move rivaling a Sarah Palin speech on foreign policy, the phone immediately alienates every reviewer with a Stalinist Bing policy. So, the message is that the only reason to buy this phone is if you are a heavy techie and can root it as well as program it. Then Froyo is proclaimed the savior for the device, except that Froyo is really Godot. I forget why I wanted Froyo. I just keep tinkering. How to throw away millions of dollars of profit in one easy lesson from Samsung and Verizon. Thanks guys.

 

[Chris3D]

So, the message is that the only reason to buy this phone is if you are a heavy techie and can root it as well as program it.

This right here is spot on. A friend of mine is looking to get a new phone, either a Droid X or a Fascinate, and although he's in IT, he has no interest in rooting and fiddling with a phone... he just wants it to work. I told him pretty much flat out that I wouldn't even consider the Fascinate if I had to use it in it's stock form. With a clean ROM, it's one of the best phones out there, but stock, it's pretty much a POS.

 

[drberezin]

This right here is spot on. A friend of mine is looking to get a new phone, either a Droid X or a Fascinate, and although he's in IT, he has no interest in rooting and fiddling with a phone... he just wants it to work. I told him pretty much flat out that I wouldn't even consider the Fascinate if I had to use it in it's stock form. With a clean ROM, it's one of the best phones out there, but stock, it's pretty much a POS.

I think that is a little harsh. This phone works. It's smooth, quick, does what it's supposed to do. I put LauncherPro on the phone with Beautiful Widgets and it works great. Sure, I want Froyo. It should be here soon. A POS the Fascinate is NOT.

I am also in IT. I had an original Droid that I had rooted with Sapphire ROM and was over-clocking it and pushed it as far as it could go. The Fascinate does everything that a smartphone should and is quite fast at doing it and smoother than my OC'd, rooted Droid.

My Fascinate:

 

[voghan]

I think the Fascinate is a nice phone for anyone that doesn't care about Froyo or Gingerbread or any other code name. My wife loves this phone just the way it is. That said what Verizon has done with this phone is criminal.

You have easily the best android phone on the market and don't bother updating it? Froyo is rolling out on other Galaxy S phones but we get nothing. Clearly Google liked it so much they made it their next Nexus phone.

Rooting this phone fairly easy if you have a pc. I recommend if you are past your 30 days to root your phone, remove bing and all the other crap out there. You can flash JT's super clean rom and get yourself to an almost pure Google experience.

 

[Joel S.]

Froyo is rolling out on other Galaxy S phones but we get nothing.

There's only so many times you can say it: the Verizon Fascinate is a CDMA phone, and considering the number of carriers who use GSM vs the number of carriers who use CDMA, CDMA phones are typically the last ones to get updates/devices.

You can go back and look at any number of cross carrier devices, they usually come to the CDMA carriers last, and get updates last. It sucks, but it doesn't mean the phone is being ignored. Verizon has committed to it, and Samsung's official Galaxy S twitter repeatedly says it is coming for the Fascinate.

 

[NickA]

There's only so many times you can say it: the Verizon Fascinate is a CDMA phone, and considering the number of carriers who use GSM vs the number of carriers who use CDMA, CDMA phones are typically the last ones to get updates/devices.

You can go back and look at any number of cross carrier devices, they usually come to the CDMA carriers last, and get updates last. It sucks, but it doesn't mean the phone is being ignored. Verizon has committed to it, and Samsung's official Galaxy S twitter repeatedly says it is coming for the Fascinate.

I'd say you were correct, but weren't the Droid line of phones first to get 2.2? The original Droid keeps getting updates, the Driod 2 was released with 2.2, and the X got it shortly after that.

Next to the Nexus and the EVO, the original Droid got it first for Verizon, then the Incredible. So I don't think it's a CDMA vs. GSM thing in this case.

 

[wabbster]

Aside from the GPS issue, this is probably the most bug-free phone I have ever owned, especially Android based.

Same here. This phone works pretty darn good. I have it rooted with wifi tether
and I can't complain one bit. Best Android phone I have owned.

Wabbs

 

[voghan]

There's only so many times you can say it: the Verizon Fascinate is a CDMA phone, and considering the number of carriers who use GSM vs the number of carriers who use CDMA, CDMA phones are typically the last ones to get updates/devices.

You can go back and look at any number of cross carrier devices, they usually come to the CDMA carriers last, and get updates last. It sucks, but it doesn't mean the phone is being ignored. Verizon has committed to it, and Samsung's official Galaxy S twitter repeatedly says it is coming for the Fascinate.

Samsung Intercept on Spring is getting Froyo tomorrow. I think that CDMA excuse is crap. HTC EVO and the Droid were the first couple phones to get 2.2 and I'm guessing the EVO will have Gingerbread before we get Froyo.

 

[Clak]

Have to admit, that is kind of a slap in the face. I thought the Galaxy S phones were Samsung's flagship phones, they don't treat them like it, at least in the U.S. anyway.

 

[Chris3D]

A POS the Fascinate is NOT.

I base my statement on the force-feeding of Bing, the bloat and the horrible battery life. On the stock phone, I was doing good to get 8 hours on a charge. Rooted and running a clean ROM, I'm getting 48 hours on a charge.

The hardware itself is great, and with decent software it can be a great phone, but with the way Verizon configured it, and the extremely negative impact that configuration has on performance and battery like, I don't think calling it a POS is too far off the mark. You can have the greatest mobile phone in the world, but if you have to have it constantly on a charger, it's hard to legitimately call it a mobile phone.

But that's just my opinion. I really like the phone now that I have it configured the way I want, but if I couldn't or didn't want to root, there's no way I could even consider keeping it.

 

[jackmei2]

I'd say you were correct, but weren't the Droid line of phones first to get 2.2? The original Droid keeps getting updates, the Driod 2 was released with 2.2, and the X got it shortly after that.

Next to the Nexus and the EVO, the original Droid got it first for Verizon, then the Incredible. So I don't think it's a CDMA vs. GSM thing in this case.

exactly, many other CDMA phones are getting froyo before we are, but I still think the blame belongs on vzw for the fascinate not getting froyo any time soon

 

[Clak]

8 hours of battery life? What were you doing with it those 8 hours? Seriously though, I could go all day on mine even when it was stock.

 

[Joel S.]

Samsung Intercept on Spring is getting Froyo tomorrow. I think that CDMA excuse is crap. HTC EVO and the Droid were the first couple phones to get 2.2 and I'm guessing the EVO will have Gingerbread before we get Froyo.

I'd say you were correct, but weren't the Droid line of phones first to get 2.2? The original Droid keeps getting updates, the Driod 2 was released with 2.2, and the X got it shortly after that.

Next to the Nexus and the EVO, the original Droid got it first for Verizon, then the Incredible. So I don't think it's a CDMA vs. GSM thing in this case.

Apples and oranges people. The Droid line are VZW exclusives, so if Moto pumps out the update faster than Samsung, it'll get it faster. The Intercept is an OLDER PHONE (is it a Sprint exclusive?), so it's likely had Froyo in development for longer.

You guys are missing the point. The Galaxy S line is spread out over a number of carriers world wide, the majority of them are GSM based. Samsung is going to push Froyo for GSM based devices out first since it'll cover more carriers. From there, CDMA will get the love, since there are all of 5 or 6 carriers that use it.

When you talk about devices that span multiple carriers, the CDMA devices are usually last in the development list. That in itself is going to delay it's release to Verizon, who is notoriously slow in testing.

 

[wabbster]

Get 2 days without birds

8 hours of battery life? What were you doing with it those 8 hours? Seriously though, I could go all day on mine even when it was stock.

Shhhhhhhhhh He finally beat Angry Birds. Now he is getting 48hrs.

wabbs

 

[TedLWJR]

I base my statement on the force-feeding of Bing, the bloat and the horrible battery life. On the stock phone, I was doing good to get 8 hours on a charge. Rooted and running a clean ROM, I'm getting 48 hours on a charge.

The hardware itself is great, and with decent software it can be a great phone, but with the way Verizon configured it, and the extremely negative impact that configuration has on performance and battery like, I don't think calling it a POS is too far off the mark. You can have the greatest mobile phone in the world, but if you have to have it constantly on a charger, it's hard to legitimately call it a mobile phone.

But that's just my opinion. I really like the phone now that I have it configured the way I want, but if I couldn't or didn't want to root, there's no way I could even consider keeping it.

I'm interested in the rom you are using, I am rooted but other than wireles tether and debinged i see no noticable effects. Could you please shed light on the subject?

 

[F34R]

Yeah, I'd love to get 18+ hours out of my fascinate..