After stopping in my local vzw store on friday I asked their store manager, I refuse service from anyone but him, about froyo for the fascinate and what the hold up was about. He immediately took a step back and said major updates are only pushed to phones with known issues and there currently weren't any with the fascinate! I told him my gps had not worked since day one and he then told me there was a fix on the way but not to expect froyo. So after leaving, I decided to call in to CS just to see if they would verify this in any way. After reaching tech support I asked where froyo and media hub access were for the fascinate and how they could say this phone could do and have access to these things yet they aren't available. This is where it gets interesting, vzw tech places me on hold and comes back and says VZW is only responsible for voice and data and any other questions had to be directed to samsung. He then immediately places me on hold and transfers me to samsung. After about an hour on the phone, 95% of that on hold, a supervisor comes on and without letting me say a word tells me samsung is only responsible for manufacturing the phone and that they can say the phone can do or have access to whatever they want and as long as the phone didn't release with what was advertised they were not liable and that any other questions needed to be directed to VZW. WTF?!! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? If this is really the case fascinate owners are really getting screwed. I on the other hand immediately ported both my numbers to sprint, where so far my coverage and evos have been great!