[ROM][ACS]SyndicateROM Frozen 1.2 (Updated 6/20)

[tomy2001]

Sounds like you need to recalibrate your battery. After flashing the ROMs

How do I do that?
Could you explain please.
Thanks you Paul!!!

 

[thebullfrog]

i keep reading both here and on xda about people getting terrible batt life on 1.1 but konane and everyone else wants to blame it on calibration, or in the case of konane coming really close to just saying evryone is stupid. i havent tried 1.1 yet myself as im waiting for journaling, but it seems that maybe there really is a battery issue with this rom and the devs need to start taking it seriously and quit blaming everyone else. i know my phone glitched and ate up 50% batt in less than 30 min and my phone got so hot i shut my phone down for fear of the heat killing it on 1.02, but no, we all just need to calibrate the battery. im reluctant to even try 1.1 until the devs at least admit there may be a problem and look into, let alone actually fix it. konane has made some comments about the battery issue that make me question whether im willing to even keep using his ROMS.

 

[thebullfrog]

How do I do that?
Could you explain please.
Thank you Paul!!!

Best/easiest way is to charge to 100% with the phone off. unplug, then plug back in untill it says fully charged again to make sure, then boot into CWM and under advanced settings wipe the battery stats.

 

[Paul627g]

i keep reading both here and on xda about people getting terrible batt life on 1.1 but konane and everyone else wants to blame it on calibration, or in the case of konane coming really close to just saying evryone is stupid. i havent tried 1.1 yet myself as im waiting for journaling, but it seems that maybe there really is a battery issue with this rom and the devs need to start taking it seriously and quit blaming everyone else. i know my phone glitched and ate up 50% batt in less than 30 min and my phone got so hot i shut my phone down for fear of the heat killing it on 1.02, but no, we all just need to calibrate the battery. im reluctant to even try 1.1 until the devs at least admit there may be a problem and look into, let alone actually fix it. konane has made some comments about the battery issue that make me question whether im willing to even keep using his ROMS.

I usually don't bother with battery recalibration myself.. I never do it. I just make sure when flashing I'm at or near 100% on the battery for best results.

Not defending anyone here but k0nane does seem to know his stuff. Plus I don't think this is really ROM related and more kernel related if anything. Before we had the source code we never worried about the kernel, now that they can roll and make custom kernels as you can tell by the mods they can control a lot of different things with the kernel. So if anything it would mostlikely be kernel related that is causing unknown battery problems or over heating... There are so many different "tweaks" going into these kernels lately it wouldn't surprise me to see something unforeseen go wrong.

That is just my take on the situation, like I said I'm not defending anyone I'm just making an observation on the problem at hand and what I do know.

Remember these are all custom ROMs, and with custom ROMs, rooting or hacking we take responsibilities into our own hands from the moment we root the phone. As with anything "custom" it is a work in progress and nothing is guaranteed...

 

[thebullfrog]

oh believe me i know konane knows his crap, and that it could bethe kernel, its just the attitude hes taken towards all the complaints about battery life going into the toilet that bother me. id be happy if hed just aknowledge there may be an issue rather than point fingers at everyone else.

That being said, ive been running Vision kernel all day now and the battery life at 1.4ghz is shockingly good. dont get me wrong, it drains quick, but not signicantly worse than twilight like id expect, so it could very well be an issue with twilight. just wish theyd even accept the possibility. i really hope they can get the kinks worked out because it is a great ROM, once they iron out a few rough edges and get the journaled version working it should be simply fantastic.

 

[Shabbypenguin]

oh believe me i know konane knows his crap, and that it could bethe kernel, its just the attitude hes taken towards all the complaints about battery life going into the toilet that bother me. id be happy if hed just aknowledge there may be an issue rather than point fingers at everyone else.

That being said, ive been running Vision kernel all day now and the battery life at 1.4ghz is shockingly good. dont get me wrong, it drains quick, but not signicantly worse than twilight like id expect, so it could very well be an issue with twilight. just wish theyd even accept the possibility. i really hope they can get the kinks worked out because it is a great ROM, once they iron out a few rough edges and get the journaled version working it should be simply fantastic.

sorry you feel this way but try to understand from his point of view, we have hundreds of users on xda alone that go in and complain about things. he is co-leader of the ACS team, lead rom dev and pointman for a lot of things.. all the while still maintaining a social life and going to school. on xda not sure if you guys here have noticed it but there on the epic forums users tend to have a sense of entitlement, that they deserve a perfectly working rom because they want it. im sorry you are having issues with the rom and ill try my best to bring them up to our devs. i do know our kernel dev was looking into something that was chewing up battery life.

the big issue we deal with is when you get something working just right it breaks 15 more things, so my apologies is patience is worn thin

 

[k0nane]

oh believe me i know konane knows his crap, and that it could bethe kernel, its just the attitude hes taken towards all the complaints about battery life going into the toilet that bother me. id be happy if hed just aknowledge there may be an issue rather than point fingers at everyone else.

Hi, thebullfrog. I apologize if I have come off as dismissive - there have been many times in the past when battery life reports have come up, and calibration has fixed it. As battery life has been excellent in testing, and has been reported to be great by many other users, that will always be my first recommendation.

However, I have acknowledged there may be issues for some users, and if that hasn't been clear, I will do so again: some people are having battery life problems. There are also issues with freezing. The freezes have been attributed to the included kernel; ACS's kernel team is currently looking into it. That issue most likely traces back to the fact that not all devices can handle certain undervolts. The kernel team tried to set default levels that will work for everyone, and I don't blame them for the issue - some things come up unexpectedly. The poor battery life you and some others are seeing is most likely from the same root cause - the kernel. dvsint1 has been increased in voltage from 1.1v to 1.125v - a difference that may seem insignificant, but may also be contributing here. dvsint1's voltage level is only reached for those using 1.2 and 1.3ghz.

Fortunately the fix for both should be the same - I have posted kernel version 1.0.4, the one included in ROM version 1.0.2, in the thread. You can find the post linked in the changelog, which is in the second post of the thread on XDA. I suggest trying it to anyone having battery issues, and strongly recommend it to those getting freezes (users report it fixing the problem completely).

By your user data, it appears you're running 1.0.2 with VisionKernel - VisionKernel is built from the same foundation as Twilight Zone 1.1.0 (included with SRF1.1.0), but has frequency and voltage changes. Did you try VisionKernel already with 1.1.0?

There's a reason why I don't believe that anything in the ROM - other than the included kernel - is causing battery issues (certainly not to that extent): it's merely an updated and tweaked version of 1.0.2. The changes to the system itself, while reimplemented for EC05, are exactly the same. The included apps are the same, with the exception of the removal of Battery Mod (mods for 1.1.0 were not ready at the time of the release). Also, battery life is differing between users, just like the freezes. When I screw something up in the ROM, it's usually consistently broken for just about everyone. As noted before, kernels are fickle because it's a dice roll when it comes to hardware.

We're doing the best we can. Again, I apologize if I have came off as anything negative toward users. We highly value our users, because without them, the ROM would be useless - and you guys are what pushes us to continually do better.

Thank you all for your support. Please note I do not monitor this thread and was notified by another user about the dissatisfaction here. If you would like to reach me directly, please post on XDA, or join irc.fossnet.info #acs-users (FOSSnet web client).

- k0nane, ACS

EDIT:

he is co-leader of the ACS team, lead rom dev and pointman for a lot of things..

Don't give me that much credit. I'm the lead dev for SRF, but I wouldn't say I'm leadership by any means. That's rjmjr69 and second-in-command cquinerly.

 

[Paul627g]

@k0nane & Shabbypenguin, thank you to both of you for coming in and clearing up any misunderstandings. Its nice to see you both show up over here at Android Central and provide some support to our members which are also users of your ROM and kernels.

I'm also glad to see my thought process was aimed in the right direction that this is kernel related and not ROM related knowing what I do from the bit of ROM deving I've done with my own ROM.

Please do continue to stop in from time to time to answer any questions and post any news or updates you feel I maybe missing when I do my updates on your threads.

Paul627g.

 

[k0nane]

@k0nane & Shabbypenguin, thank you to both of you for coming in and clearing up any misunderstandings. Its nice to see you both show up over here at Android Central and provide some support to our members which are also users of your ROM and kernels.

No problem. I hate to put off our users, potential or current. I, and all of ACS, aim to provide the best possible support for our releases. But, being human... we (I) don't always live up to that. So I have to address my mistakes after the fact - egg on face. :-[

I'm also glad to see my thought process was aimed in the right direction that this is kernel related and not ROM related knowing what I do from the bit of ROM deving I've done with my own ROM.

I hesitate to point at the kernel until I have a good idea of whether the issue is there or not, but I did check with the kernel team, and got a confirmation by PM that the older kernel fixed the issue. The kernel team has done a lot of great work, and the ROM wouldn't be where it is today without them.

To those reading, please note that 1.0.4 conflicts with the camcorder - however, using the EB13 camera APK should solve that.

Please do continue to stop in from time to time to answer any questions and post any news or updates you feel I maybe missing when I do my updates on your threads.

I'll do my best - XDA tends to keep me pretty busy. I am, however, often available on IRC and encourage everyone to drop by.

I will try to keep an eye on this thread, though!

 

[WesR6]

I've had my phone 3 weeks and thanks to these forums I've gone from manual update.zip to rooting stock EC05 to installing my first ROM. I must say this thing is fast! I've been toying with OC but even at 1ghz it's blazing fast compared to the stock samsung/sprint ROM.

My question is how can I get sprint navigation back? That's one "bloat" that I did use alot for work and doesn't seem to be on the market place. Don't by chance have another zip file laying around with just that app in it do you paul??

Thanks,

-Wes

 

[thebullfrog]

thank you guys for posting that here. it does clear things up a lot. i was just getting frustrated with the calibration always (at least seeming) to get blamed when i myself had a massive battery glitch yesterday that was in no way a calibration issue. i will say that vision does rape the battery lol, but it just works sooooo well. i havent tried 1.1 yet because im waiting on journaling and some the browser bugs to be worked out. the earlier version of twilight does have much better battery life, as does genocide but i havent tried that with SRF yet. my phone does pretty much pwn with this setup and i really do want to give 1.1 a run once its smoothed out a bit more. you guys really do in fact do great work, it just was starting to feel like a big issue was being passed off. i wish i could post on xda about these things (like my freakish battery death yesterday) but the post limit thing is a pain when i have no reason to post outside the dev forum. again, thanks for clearing things up and sorry if i sounded like a jack-hole, just frustrated is all.

 

[k0nane]

I've had my phone 3 weeks and thanks to these forums I've gone from rooting stock EC05 to installing my first ROM. I must say this thing is fast! I've been toying with OC but even at 1ghz it's blazing fast compared to the stock samsung/sprint ROM.

My question is how can I get sprint navigation back? That's one "bloat" that I did use alot for work and doesn't seem to be on the market place. Don't by chance have another zip file laying around with just that app in it do you paul??

Thanks,

-Wes

Thanks for your support! You can grab Sprint Navigator in the Stock Apps addon, which is in the second post of the XDA thread. It's been updated to the new Telenav Navigation - if you don't want all the stock apps, just pull out TN-6.8(...).apk and either install it or drop it in /system/app.

thank you guys for posting that here. it does clear things up a lot. i was just getting frustrated with the calibration always (at least seeming) to get blamed when i myself had a massive battery glitch yesterday that was in no way a calibration issue.

It's the first thing to try, but in your case it did nothing. I understand your frustration - I just have to recommend it before anything else to eliminate it as an issue. On every release, there's a least a few users for whom the calibration process fixes it..

i will say that vision does rape the battery lol, but it just works sooooo well.

1.4ghz. 'nough said. thomasskull666 and the kernel team hit a real home run with it.

i havent tried 1.1 yet because im waiting on journaling and some the browser bugs to be worked out. you guys really do in fact do great work,

The only known browser bug is the inability to save images - I am looking into that right now. Otherwise, the browser actually functions much better than the one in 1.0.2.

the earlier version of twilight does have much better battery life, as does genocide but i havent tried that with SRF yet. my phone does pretty much pwn with this setup and i really do want to give 1.1 a run once its smoothed out a bit more.

'tis a roll of the dice. Some people are seeing much better life, some drastically worse. I and the kernel team both wish it would be more consistent. I'm glad the combination you have right now is working well for you, and once again, thanks for your support.

i wish i could post on xda about these things (like my freakish battery death yesterday) but the post limit thing is a pain when i have no reason to post outside the dev forum.

Don't tell the mods, but "+1 10char10char" on a few silly threads will get you where you need to be. I'm thinking about starting a thread in the Q&A section. You're also always welcome to join us on IRC!

 

[Paul627g]

I've had my phone 3 weeks and thanks to these forums I've gone from manual update.zip to rooting stock EC05 to installing my first ROM. I must say this thing is fast! I've been toying with OC but even at 1ghz it's blazing fast compared to the stock samsung/sprint ROM.

My question is how can I get sprint navigation back? That's one "bloat" that I did use alot for work and doesn't seem to be on the market place. Don't by chance have another zip file laying around with just that app in it do you paul??

Thanks,

-Wes

Sprint Navigation (move it to your sdcard and click on it with Astro/ES File Explorer, etc. and you will be prompted to install.)

 

[WesR6]

Thanks for the help and quick replys. Awesome sites and wonderfull ROM's.

-Wes

 

[Kikoshi]

Now then, is a good rom and ec05 battery life is good, though how can I update the prl? I keep getting errors when updating :/

 

[k0nane]

Now then, is a good rom and ec05 battery life is good, though how can I update the prl? I keep getting errors when updating :/

This has been an issue across all custom ROMs and stock ROMs. It would be nice if we could do something about it, but it doesn't look like we can. Try this.

EDIT: Beat you again, Paul.

 

[Paul627g]

Now then, is a good rom and ec05 battery life is good, though how can I update the prl? I keep getting errors when updating :/

I think its still broke with EC05 for some. There is the manual method .

[HOW TO] Update your PRL manually (EPIC 4G) - xda developers

Edit: Ran fine for me, I started EB13 but flashed Syndicate a EC05 based ROM.

 

[Paul627g]

EDIT: Beat you again, Paul.

Thats alright... Just remember me when I come knocking on your front door in your thread at XDA. Considering updating my ACE ROM to CIQ removal and I maybe asking a few questions.. I haven't had much luck getting a successful build working even with your ROM dev files you released for CIQ removal.

 

[k0nane]

Thats alright... Just remember me when I come knocking on your front door in your thread at XDA. Considering updating my ACE ROM to CIQ removal and I maybe asking a few questions.. I haven't had much luck getting a successful build working even with your ROM dev files you released for CIQ removal.

No problem - but if you want help on that aspect, you should probably join the IRC channel instead. The XDA thread goes by at a mile a minute.

 

[jrz5024]

No problem - but if you want help on that aspect, you should probably join the IRC channel instead. The XDA thread goes by at a mile a minute.

+1 for truth.

Also, what's up k0nane, nice to see you on AC

(I'm anti09 over at XDA)