Ah, o.k. I guess but it has an 800 snapdragon processor and will shortly be running lollipop. If they put an 805 in it and charged $200 more for the phone that would make you happy? What would you gain?
The Nexus 6 isn't as big as you guys think.!
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A refreshed N5 with a better camera would have been a good place to start. The camera is ok on the N5, but behind what Sony and Nokia are offering,ok Nokia is WP now, but they're still a competing phone manufacturer.
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There's possibly another reason why companies are going bigger that I don't believe has been discussed yet:
Bigger Phones Push Consumers Towards "One Device"
Majority of people I've ever seen with larger smartphones above 5" typically use tablets a whole lot less - or not even at all. While on one hand one would argue that a company would want a consumer to purchase both (phone + tablet) at the end of the day a smartphone consumer is significantly more valuable than a tablet consumer due to the fact that smartphones typically get more use than a tablet for obvious reasons (calls, messaging, etc.) and are obviously the device that people will carry with them statistically more often than their tablet - especially when it comes to men. Plus, more and more consumers are wanting to carry less. So, if you want a tablet, but at the same time you don't want to carry one, what do you buy? A big phone.
In what is so far proving true, BlackBerry CEO stated years ago that he felt that in a few years tablets would be obsolete. I don't remember his reasons, but he's so far proving himself right nonetheless. Large (10") tablets sell in the minority when compared to smaller 7-8" tablets (example: iPad Mini blows away the Air by comparison), but smaller tablet sales are declining due to the rise of big smartphones. Apple I really believe tried to stay away from large iPhones partly because they knew it would eat into their tablet sales (which it will: Mini sales will decline thanks to the iPhone 6 Plus). But, at the end of the day, they were losing way too much by not having a large smartphone (again: smartphone consumers are more valuable than tablet consumers). Notice that they also didn't update the iPad Mini's internals at all this year. Me theorizing, I think they wanted to see how much the iPhone 6 Plus will affect Mini sales (why update it if you think your phone will cannibalize its sales?). Instead, they opted to update the Air (which already sells poorly compared to the Mini) to see if that's where they can make up their possible lost margins on declining mini sales thanks to the iPhone 6 Plus.
At the end of the day, big smartphones are like a hybrid small tablet and phone to a lot of people. As a guy, I know I don't always carry around my iPad Air along with my HTC One M8 because it's just not convenient. I've sort of stayed away from big phones because they are big, but I'm not going to lie, I'm going to at least try out the Nexus 6 because I think it's checked mostly all the right boxes on my want list and Android 5.0 is the first stock android experience that is leaving me impressed as much as I am with Sense in my M8.
Big phones are going to change the tablet industry as a whole. Here's possible outcomes:
* Small tablets become obsolete (or at least anything below 7")
* Large (10"+) tablets become popular again
* Tablet direction changes perhaps to imitate the dying laptop market (i.e. all tablets come with thin, keyboard cover cases and are promoted as productivity devices... in which case Microsoft will have proven that they were just ahead of the game with the Surface series...Food for thought: The Nexus 9's main advertised accessory is a keyboard case)
* Tablets will no longer be just larger versions of their phone counterparts. OS will be designed very different to differentiate them apart from a smartphone.
Apple sort of got the idea right this year by having two phone models. I think Google and others will ultimately follow. A more normal 4.7"-5" smartphone and then something just shy of 6". Technically, Google did that this year as well by keeping the Nexus 5 in the product line. Perhaps next year we'll see both models updated together.
I will say this though: if Google does end up discontinuing (same with Apple) their smaller smartphone offering that's not a sign of stupidity. It would show that really the market is swinging towards big phones whether you like it or not. They wouldn't hamstring themselves by only offering one phone if it wasn't going to make them money or prove themselves successful in the long run. Just look at Apple. For years people complained about their small 3.5" and 4" screens saying they needed to be bigger. But, guess what? Those small phones still outsold everything. So, Apple knew how long they could utilize that phone factor and obviously this year is the year they felt they could no longer profit from those small sizes. The same is true in the opposite with big phones now. Companies are seeing they have to offer large screens. That's where the industry is going. Point blank.
Bigger Phones Push Consumers Towards "One Device"
Majority of people I've ever seen with larger smartphones above 5" typically use tablets a whole lot less - or not even at all. While on one hand one would argue that a company would want a consumer to purchase both (phone + tablet) at the end of the day a smartphone consumer is significantly more valuable than a tablet consumer due to the fact that smartphones typically get more use than a tablet for obvious reasons (calls, messaging, etc.) and are obviously the device that people will carry with them statistically more often than their tablet - especially when it comes to men. Plus, more and more consumers are wanting to carry less. So, if you want a tablet, but at the same time you don't want to carry one, what do you buy? A big phone.
In what is so far proving true, BlackBerry CEO stated years ago that he felt that in a few years tablets would be obsolete. I don't remember his reasons, but he's so far proving himself right nonetheless. Large (10") tablets sell in the minority when compared to smaller 7-8" tablets (example: iPad Mini blows away the Air by comparison), but smaller tablet sales are declining due to the rise of big smartphones. Apple I really believe tried to stay away from large iPhones partly because they knew it would eat into their tablet sales (which it will: Mini sales will decline thanks to the iPhone 6 Plus). But, at the end of the day, they were losing way too much by not having a large smartphone (again: smartphone consumers are more valuable than tablet consumers). Notice that they also didn't update the iPad Mini's internals at all this year. Me theorizing, I think they wanted to see how much the iPhone 6 Plus will affect Mini sales (why update it if you think your phone will cannibalize its sales?). Instead, they opted to update the Air (which already sells poorly compared to the Mini) to see if that's where they can make up their possible lost margins on declining mini sales thanks to the iPhone 6 Plus.
At the end of the day, big smartphones are like a hybrid small tablet and phone to a lot of people. As a guy, I know I don't always carry around my iPad Air along with my HTC One M8 because it's just not convenient. I've sort of stayed away from big phones because they are big, but I'm not going to lie, I'm going to at least try out the Nexus 6 because I think it's checked mostly all the right boxes on my want list and Android 5.0 is the first stock android experience that is leaving me impressed as much as I am with Sense in my M8.
Big phones are going to change the tablet industry as a whole. Here's possible outcomes:
* Small tablets become obsolete (or at least anything below 7")
* Large (10"+) tablets become popular again
* Tablet direction changes perhaps to imitate the dying laptop market (i.e. all tablets come with thin, keyboard cover cases and are promoted as productivity devices... in which case Microsoft will have proven that they were just ahead of the game with the Surface series...Food for thought: The Nexus 9's main advertised accessory is a keyboard case)
* Tablets will no longer be just larger versions of their phone counterparts. OS will be designed very different to differentiate them apart from a smartphone.
Apple sort of got the idea right this year by having two phone models. I think Google and others will ultimately follow. A more normal 4.7"-5" smartphone and then something just shy of 6". Technically, Google did that this year as well by keeping the Nexus 5 in the product line. Perhaps next year we'll see both models updated together.
I will say this though: if Google does end up discontinuing (same with Apple) their smaller smartphone offering that's not a sign of stupidity. It would show that really the market is swinging towards big phones whether you like it or not. They wouldn't hamstring themselves by only offering one phone if it wasn't going to make them money or prove themselves successful in the long run. Just look at Apple. For years people complained about their small 3.5" and 4" screens saying they needed to be bigger. But, guess what? Those small phones still outsold everything. So, Apple knew how long they could utilize that phone factor and obviously this year is the year they felt they could no longer profit from those small sizes. The same is true in the opposite with big phones now. Companies are seeing they have to offer large screens. That's where the industry is going. Point blank.
I've already sold my Nexus 7 and I will sell my Nexus 5 and move to the one device world once the Nexus 6 goes on sale, I buy and take delivery of it...
a combination of a good sized device to use and the fact that I love casting my media to my TV's from my phone to the Chromecast made the Nexus 7 almost obsolete as is.....
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This is exactly what I'm doing. I sold my Nexus 7 last month. I'll sell my Nexus 5 once I get my Nexus 6 and I'll use that and my Dell chromebook for my mobile devices. This is what I've been waiting for on Android and I can't be more excited right now. Now, if I stumble upon an extra $500 or so, I'll pick up the Nexus 9 because I'm an addict...
You should'nt be using your phone when driving anyways. Besides any of the voice assisted features should take care of your problems if your only issue is while driving.
I've seen plenty of people using the iPhone 6+, asked a few colleagues who had it (and upgraded from 5) and they had no problems at all.
So why is it such a big deal for Android users (we should be used to bigger phones) to go to a phone that's ~1mm taller and ~5mm wider? While having a more contoured back for easier grip?
In return you get a bigger screen and stereo front speakers. I really don't see what the big deal is, one its in hand I expect people will get used to it quickly.
So why is it such a big deal for Android users (we should be used to bigger phones) to go to a phone that's ~1mm taller and ~5mm wider? While having a more contoured back for easier grip?
In return you get a bigger screen and stereo front speakers. I really don't see what the big deal is, one its in hand I expect people will get used to it quickly.
Addiction can be a real problem..... If the Nexus 6 wasn't so expensive say more in the $450 - 500 range I might have bought a Nexus 9 as well just for the addiction aspect of the whole ordeal....Only if they have secretly announced the 2014 edition with the same specs as the 6...
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I disagree. My tablet is separate for a reason, especially with limited battery and storage options. Were I to consider upgrading to a larger phone, I would still keep a separate tablet. That being said, I have had both a 10" and a 7" tablet. Surprisingly, I find the 7" tablet to be far more comfortable to use and I have relatively larger hands
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I'm moving toward one device. I have Verizon's customer loyalty plan which doesn't have the hotspot feature. They want an extra $30 a month to add the hotspot feature and I refuse to pay extra to access data on a tablet that I already have access to with my phone. I wanted a tablet, but the big phones make much more sense to me. I always use a BlackBerry style vertical belt holster to carry my phone and almost always talk on my bluetooth headset so carrying and holding the phone to my ear doesn't matter that much to me. I love my 2013 Moto X, so I can't wait to handle the N6. I have a Note 4 pre ordered from Best Buy because of the $200 offer, but don't care for TouchWiz or Samsungs radios compared to stock Android and Motorolas reception and call quality. My Moto X's call quality and reception is the best I have had on a phone since I had a Motorola V710 flip phone in my pre BlackBerry days.
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Yeah, the price is what really got me. If the Nexus 6 was a little closer to the Nexus 5 price, I'd probably splurge for both. But as it stands, I can't justify throwing down over $600 on a tablet and accessories that will get little use with a phone the size of the Nexus 6. Like I said, if I stumble upon some extra money, I know where it'll go.
Even if I decided to switch to a unified device setup, the Nexus 6 still wouldn't be useful. It would need to be closer to the 7" range, with 128 GB of on-board storage and a battery that can last a minimum of 12 hours under the most active of use.
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